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n1000
Profile Joined September 2011
5 Posts
November 09 2011 13:52 GMT
#281
Awesome post man. We like to dismiss early game aggression as "cheese" or undesirable because it allegedly takes less skill than traditional macro play. I think it's something that every player ought to practice, the fact of the matter is this: you can't force a macro game but you can force early aggression. If you outclass me in the mid-late game but can't micro well enough to hold off my cheese, I'll beat you every time.

It's not a matter of 6pool, 2 gate, or 2 rax being overpowered, or lame, what's important is that we explore and become familiar with hyper-early aggression.

I understand that most of us find a metagame based on early-game all-ins unappealing, but we shouldn't turn a blind eye to them for aesthetic reasons.
merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 13:56:29
November 09 2011 13:56 GMT
#282
It's not so much that you 6 pool, and whether or not the strategy is valid or not. You are insanely bad mannered towards your opponents if you fail and you also use cheap tricks such as trying to strike up a conversation and ask as much as possible while you are 6 pooling. The latter would even be illegal in most serious tournaments.

To me this just comes off as a brag thread, seeing how you carefully pick out all the heavy names to show off your 6 pool tactics. But hey, that's just me.
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
Twelve12
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia268 Posts
November 09 2011 14:10 GMT
#283
On November 09 2011 22:56 dignitas.merz wrote:
It's not so much that you 6 pool, and whether or not the strategy is valid or not. You are insanely bad mannered towards your opponents if you fail and you also use cheap tricks such as trying to strike up a conversation and ask as much as possible while you are 6 pooling. The latter would even be illegal in most serious tournaments.

To me this just comes off as a brag thread, seeing how you carefully pick out all the heavy names to show off your 6 pool tactics. But hey, that's just me.


Yeah i actually felt that this concept was really cool, but was pretty disappointed in the BM towards opponents who sometimes had never provoked you first, like catz
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 14:11:49
November 09 2011 14:11 GMT
#284
yeh I wonder how many times the top players beat you and you havent posted that. Brag thread all over. If this was a a Protoss cheese we would be getting abuse

15 pages for a BM person, no problem with the strat but the BM??? really?
Live and Let Die!
Bad_Habit
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany243 Posts
November 09 2011 14:22 GMT
#285
catz bmed me when i won him the first time. sure its not good to bm but what you guys dont know is what happened before. well you can see i have like 65% winrate so sure i lose sometimes but i do fairly well against "pros" only the "russian front" with maphack gives me a hard time ^_^
I only gg vs protoss when I'm winning
mike1
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany155 Posts
November 09 2011 14:22 GMT
#286
its pretty interesting and informative but the BM leaves a sour taste of attention*******
CapnAmerica
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States508 Posts
November 09 2011 14:39 GMT
#287
On November 09 2011 09:33 Loes wrote:
says his madfrog LOL


His forum name looks really familiar... I think he actually is...

Or is my memory off?

Didn't Day9 cast a game of Bad_Habit and say he was Madfrog in 2010?
After all this time, I still haven't figured out the correlation between sexual orientation and beating an unprepared opponent. Are homosexuals the next koreans? Many players seem to think it's an unfair advantage. - pandaburn
Fuhrmaaj
Profile Joined January 2011
167 Posts
November 09 2011 14:40 GMT
#288
Side-by-side on the strategy forums:

- a guide showing how to hold a hatch first in ZvP so that you can survive cannons and get into the macro phase of the game

- how to 6pool in every MU
Random player
Geiko
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France2036 Posts
November 09 2011 14:45 GMT
#289
On November 09 2011 23:40 Fuhrmaaj wrote:
Side-by-side on the strategy forums:

- a guide showing how to hold a hatch first in ZvP so that you can survive cannons and get into the macro phase of the game

- how to 6pool in every MU


Yep, one of those guides is an in-depth explanation of a strategy and how it succeeds at high level with perfect execution, and the other is just a trick that works against bad players. I'll let you figure out which is which ^^
geiko.813 (EU)
goste
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia46 Posts
November 09 2011 14:50 GMT
#290
So you won the bet. I think the real question here is:

What did you win???
Top 10 reasons to procrastinate: #1 -
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 14:52:15
November 09 2011 14:51 GMT
#291
On November 09 2011 23:39 CapnAmerica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 09:33 Loes wrote:
says his madfrog LOL


His forum name looks really familiar... I think he actually is...

Or is my memory off?

Didn't Day9 cast a game of Bad_Habit and say he was Madfrog in 2010?


Madfrog would never ever for one post this type of thread or be so BM without a reason lol

He seemed like a real laid back guy all the way through wc3 lol

so yeh 100% trolling Beasty lol
Live and Let Die!
Bad_Habit
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany243 Posts
November 09 2011 15:01 GMT
#292
im not madfrog, thats just a little insider between me and grub T_T
I only gg vs protoss when I'm winning
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
November 09 2011 15:04 GMT
#293
That sir, is really really awesome!
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
November 09 2011 15:11 GMT
#294
you can kind of expect that kind of behavior from somebody ending their name with qt.

Sareth
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1008 Posts
November 09 2011 15:29 GMT
#295
On November 09 2011 23:22 Bad_Habit wrote:
catz bmed me when i won him the first time. sure its not good to bm but what you guys dont know is what happened before. well you can see i have like 65% winrate so sure i lose sometimes but i do fairly well against "pros" only the "russian front" with maphack gives me a hard time ^_^

"russian front with maphack"?
Dont you think that you will be very soon very known in Ladder, if you get to GM just by 6pooling?
Everybody will know, that you are not able to win with anything elese at that level and so play extremely safe. They know that if they hold your 6pool they will win.
Satiinifi
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland192 Posts
November 09 2011 15:32 GMT
#296
Talk about a total waste of time, and they call some progamers nolife :D
Eviscerador
Profile Joined October 2011
Spain286 Posts
November 09 2011 15:36 GMT
#297
So much talent wasted... I mean, your micro is amazing and your execution is well planned but... don't you feel empty just winning games such way all the time?

For what I can see you find more rewarding teasing your oponents than winning the actual game.

If that is the case, then cheers for you, but anyway, so much talent wasted...
A victorious warrior wins first, then goes to war. A defeated warrior goes to war and then seeks to win.
SlimeBagly
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
356 Posts
November 09 2011 15:38 GMT
#298
I love the bm.

It's tough to see the point of successfully 6pooling pros if you don't bm them.
mutalisks are awesome!
yotis
Profile Joined September 2011
Czech Republic652 Posts
November 09 2011 15:41 GMT
#299
Not sure if hate or love this, because every zerg now 6pools (diamond Europe), but I win most of the games ...
are they lost forever?
LuMaLo
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany26 Posts
November 09 2011 15:54 GMT
#300
booo booo mama mama he BMs i cant watch the replays because of that...

jesus christ people grow a pair
Sie sind ja nur Menschen, sie gehen auch aufs Klo wenn sie müssen.
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