• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 06:43
CEST 12:43
KST 19:43
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10
Community News
Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.160Rollback Netcode in Brood War845.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 202622Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4)0SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup10
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.16 5.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 2026 ESL Pro Tour for SC2 discontinued [Old] StarCraft 3 Reportedly in Development
Tourneys
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier RSL 2026 Offline Finals LCQ Sign-Ups $3,500 WardiTV Not-Summer Championship ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror Mutation # 546 Catch the Train Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts
Brood War
General
Sagi.gg Launcher Released BSL23 Confirmations Starts on New BSL Portal ASL22 General Discussion Visiting korea this week BW General Discussion
Tourneys
ASL 22 Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Semifinal A [ASL22] Semifinal B
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Total Annihilation Zero
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The Link Between Gaming and …
TrAiDoS
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 13471 users

[G] Grandmaster by 6pooling, how to - Page 14

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Strategy
Post a Reply
Prev 1 12 13 14 15 16 49 Next All
ScythedBlade
Profile Joined May 2010
308 Posts
November 09 2011 11:58 GMT
#261
Which now means one thing: Protoss *must* have a uber effective all-in early game strategy...

Terrans have mass marines, MULEs -> rape
Zergs have mass 6 pool zerglings ...

Protoss ... .... ... has nothing because Zealot timing got nerfed to 37 seconds =(.
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 12:01:09
November 09 2011 12:00 GMT
#262
Wrong thread
Ciraxis
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia400 Posts
November 09 2011 12:02 GMT
#263
Watched the replay with Beasty. Godly rage :D
Steel
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Japan2283 Posts
November 09 2011 12:04 GMT
#264
Hi OP

I noticed that the only thing you do different with your build is basically the hold position back into attack micro so I decide to incorporate it in my game because I get 6 pooled a lot on the Korean server. It turns out that the koreans will take one of their zerglings to manually attack the low worker. Did you encounter this in GM? I'm diamond in Korea btw.
Try another route paperboy.
purgerinho
Profile Joined June 2008
Croatia919 Posts
November 09 2011 12:13 GMT
#265
this is cool thing, but if you are in GM with that build that can't be good for sc2 as a game
SUMMARIZED (by DeMu): You CANNOT surprise a top level Protoss with a build
Bad_Habit
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany243 Posts
November 09 2011 12:13 GMT
#266
On November 09 2011 21:04 Steel wrote:
Hi OP

I noticed that the only thing you do different with your build is basically the hold position back into attack micro so I decide to incorporate it in my game because I get 6 pooled a lot on the Korean server. It turns out that the koreans will take one of their zerglings to manually attack the low worker. Did you encounter this in GM? I'm diamond in Korea btw.


u cant see it that fast. they are to busy using normal micro
I only gg vs protoss when I'm winning
oHInsane
Profile Joined February 2005
France727 Posts
November 09 2011 12:22 GMT
#267
HI there,

Just throwing a post to show thank the OP and that I had a good laugh - and some embarassments too with some chatlog - watching your replays and reading your guide.

Cheesing is part of the game, and MUST be a part of it. It doesn't mean you're an overall better player, that's two different things. Boxer vs Yellow anyone ? 3 bunkers rush in a row, on the final stage, in front of thousands of people.
People should deal with it and let it go, really.


gondolin
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
France332 Posts
November 09 2011 12:22 GMT
#268
I love the part about workers hold position micro, it also helps for the defense :-)
So I guess you have lots of experience in lings+drone vs lings+drone micro. Let's say you enguage, if you hold position all your drones, they will switch to your lings? So that you can attack move your drones back again, while you run around with your lings, and repeat the hold position if they attack move your drones again?
Breach_hu
Profile Joined August 2009
Hungary2431 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 12:32:24
November 09 2011 12:31 GMT
#269
nvm

GGs
Give thanks and praise!
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
November 09 2011 12:38 GMT
#270
I don''t think the OP actually cares about playing in tournaments. It seems to me his only purpose was to prove how strong 6 pool and drone rush actually are.
Bora Pain minha porra!
Breach_hu
Profile Joined August 2009
Hungary2431 Posts
November 09 2011 12:39 GMT
#271
On November 09 2011 21:38 Sbrubbles wrote:
I don''t think the OP actually cares about playing in tournaments. It seems to me his only purpose was to prove how strong 6 pool and drone rush actually are.


and being bad manner when he loses ^^
Give thanks and praise!
ProBaller
Profile Joined April 2011
United States33 Posts
November 09 2011 12:59 GMT
#272
this thread brought a pretty big smile to my face. Keep it real homie. Dont let the man hold you down and fool you with those drone buildin lies! Fo'real. Sometimes before class i'll hop on ladder and just do a couple six pools for shits and giggles. Now i understand where i have gone wrong with them( Sixpool+all drones all day gogo!). I love you<3
Bwwwaaaruuuughh-Day[9]. "Im not cooooooooooool. Im so hoooooooooooooooooot"-HongUnPrime.
AnalThermometer
Profile Joined February 2011
Vatican City State334 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 13:02:30
November 09 2011 13:02 GMT
#273
I've always found it interesting that there appears to be double standards by Blizzard when destroying the original 4gate and the reaper completely, but left 6 pool alone which is too solid on some maps. OP says you have to play almost perfect but that's obviously not true, especially vs Protoss who get 6 pooled all the time. Arc shield is to address this kind of thing though.
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
November 09 2011 13:02 GMT
#274
On November 09 2011 21:39 Breach_hu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 21:38 Sbrubbles wrote:
I don''t think the OP actually cares about playing in tournaments. It seems to me his only purpose was to prove how strong 6 pool and drone rush actually are.


and being bad manner when he loses ^^


And this. Though I think it might be far-fetched long-term plan to train people to freak out once they spot the incoming cheese.
Bora Pain minha porra!
THM
Profile Joined November 2010
Bulgaria1131 Posts
November 09 2011 13:09 GMT
#275
Hahahah I was watching the GSL 15 minutes or so ago while watching some of your replays as well, and July did a 6 pool vs Puzzle in the final match of the group and failed miserably, while you were owning Huk and Hero (these 2 I was watching at the time). I think you should give him some lessons ^^

Anyway, really cool thread, I hope you decide to do some other uber cheese build and get to gm with it.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
November 09 2011 13:37 GMT
#276
On November 09 2011 22:02 AnalThermometer wrote:
I've always found it interesting that there appears to be double standards by Blizzard when destroying the original 4gate and the reaper completely, but left 6 pool alone which is too solid on some maps. OP says you have to play almost perfect but that's obviously not true, especially vs Protoss who get 6 pooled all the time. Arc shield is to address this kind of thing though.

Reaper and 4gate are not close to compareable, because people kept scouting reapers, but it was just impossible to hold and about 4gate... it was nerfed to make PvP better.

If you want to compare it to something: proxy gateways and canonrush. The later is extremly common in ZvP (bottom ramp pylon blocks often occur against pool first openings), so no need to whine about not having a "solid cheese" that can only be scouted by luck.
Especially these canonrush scenarios are so strong that zergs stopped to go hatch first against protoss, so stop blaming the balance on this, when it is rather that your rushes are so strong that the anitopenings are the standard vP openings.

and yeah, zealot build time was nerfed, because proxy 2gate was THE standard opening back then

Also all in all there have been tons of rush nerfs in the beta and early starcraft days: rax requiring depots, roach nerfs, reaper nerfs, zealot nerfs, spine crawler nerfs (people running over the map with spines)
Geiko
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France2036 Posts
November 09 2011 13:39 GMT
#277
On November 09 2011 22:37 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 22:02 AnalThermometer wrote:
I've always found it interesting that there appears to be double standards by Blizzard when destroying the original 4gate and the reaper completely, but left 6 pool alone which is too solid on some maps. OP says you have to play almost perfect but that's obviously not true, especially vs Protoss who get 6 pooled all the time. Arc shield is to address this kind of thing though.

Especially these canonrush scenarios are so strong that zergs stopped to go hatch first against protoss, so stop blaming the balance on this, when it is rather that your rushes are so strong that the anitopenings are the standard vP openings.


Lol @ flawed logic...

Your zerglings are so strong that I have to get a forge when I FE against zerg...
geiko.813 (EU)
SkaPunk
Profile Joined October 2010
United States471 Posts
November 09 2011 13:44 GMT
#278
I lost to you on the ladder. I am not a fan.
Team Fallacy
Harasslehoff
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany9 Posts
November 09 2011 13:47 GMT
#279
What does OP use against random?
Action is the real measure of intelligence.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
November 09 2011 13:48 GMT
#280
On November 09 2011 22:39 Geiko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 22:37 Big J wrote:
On November 09 2011 22:02 AnalThermometer wrote:
I've always found it interesting that there appears to be double standards by Blizzard when destroying the original 4gate and the reaper completely, but left 6 pool alone which is too solid on some maps. OP says you have to play almost perfect but that's obviously not true, especially vs Protoss who get 6 pooled all the time. Arc shield is to address this kind of thing though.

Especially these canonrush scenarios are so strong that zergs stopped to go hatch first against protoss, so stop blaming the balance on this, when it is rather that your rushes are so strong that the anitopenings are the standard vP openings.


Lol @ flawed logic...

Your zerglings are so strong that I have to get a forge when I FE against zerg...

only against a 6-11overpool cheese. Against everything else you can go nexus first.
Prev 1 12 13 14 15 16 49 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 17m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Rex 19
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 30062
Rain 2078
Bisu 1058
Jaedong 883
Horang2 535
Hyuk 289
Rush 280
Stork 278
EffOrt 147
Mini 136
[ Show more ]
Zeus 135
hero 108
Mong 85
Shinee 67
Hyun 64
Yoon 48
Pusan 37
PianO 36
NaDa 35
Noble 28
Snow 27
sSak 26
sorry 23
Sharp 21
HiyA 17
Sacsri 6
Dota 2
XcaliburYe458
League of Legends
JimRising 371
Reynor118
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1275
kRYSTAL_65
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King102
Other Games
ceh9638
crisheroes388
dupreeh376
Pyrionflax235
Hui .170
BEARDiaguz7
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV233
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 6
StarCraft 2
WardiTV2
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 63
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 9
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV538
• lizZardDota2323
League of Legends
• Jankos1719
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Weekly
17m
Rex19
WardiTV0
IntoTheiNu 0
PiGosaur Cup
13h 17m
Kung Fu Cup
1d
The PondCast
1d 23h
Online Event
3 days
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Rush vs Soulkey
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
BSL Open Qualifier
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
[ Show More ]
IPSL
5 days
BSL Open Qualifier
5 days
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-10-12
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Copium Cup

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
Acropolis #5
HCC Season 3
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.