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Frogis
Profile Joined November 2010
59 Posts
November 09 2011 08:56 GMT
#241
haha oh man I played you once and won.

your response "nice abuse"
Dragar
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom971 Posts
November 09 2011 08:58 GMT
#242
Great guide, thanks!
Giantt
Profile Joined December 2010
Bulgaria82 Posts
November 09 2011 09:00 GMT
#243
On November 09 2011 17:39 roymarthyup wrote:
also i think marine buildtime has never been nerfed. wasnt it always 25 seconds even in early beta?


It was ~17 secs first 1-2-3 months of beta.
ZerG~LegenD
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Sweden1179 Posts
November 09 2011 09:14 GMT
#244
This is brilliant.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day
undyinglight
Profile Joined December 2008
United States611 Posts
November 09 2011 09:18 GMT
#245
What is more powerful 6 or 7 pool?
Rise Up!
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
November 09 2011 09:36 GMT
#246
Haha, this is funny. Good job man, grats!

Still, this is a horrible thing to do if you want to become an actual good player. Might work on ladder, but if you start playing in tournaments people will soon adopt a defensive attitude when playing against ya, and then all those hours doing 6 pools will be wasted. But as long as you don't care about that shit, go for it.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
November 09 2011 09:41 GMT
#247
On November 09 2011 18:36 Holgerius wrote:
Haha, this is funny. Good job man, grats!

Still, this is a horrible thing to do if you want to become an actual good player. Might work on ladder, but if you start playing in tournaments people will soon adopt a defensive attitude when playing against ya, and then all those hours doing 6 pools will be wasted. But as long as you don't care about that shit, go for it.


Exactly! Players knows that you can pull of a good 6 pool and play more defensively and not that greedy - that's best thing when you are playing in tournaments.
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
November 09 2011 09:50 GMT
#248
On November 09 2011 17:56 Frogis wrote:
haha oh man I played you once and won.

your response "nice abuse"

ya, he is even only cheesing when offracing...
played him twice on the metalopolis-koth-obs-map and first game he 6gated me with all his workers and 2nd game he 2raxed me and went on to go for some 6rax+stim rush+all workers rush. I held both and he started BMing me that I'm a cheater and couldn't know what he was doing and I'm dumb because I made spinecrawlers and I should stop abusing maphacks and teamspeak and whatever... It's his "style". He cheeses you and if it fails he BMs you.
Just keep your cool with him, learn what you can/want from this guide (which is to scout early enough, even against zerg) and forget about him, because there is nothing you can learn from him when you want to have fun or improve your skill.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
November 09 2011 10:00 GMT
#249
On November 09 2011 18:41 Alpina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 18:36 Holgerius wrote:
Haha, this is funny. Good job man, grats!

Still, this is a horrible thing to do if you want to become an actual good player. Might work on ladder, but if you start playing in tournaments people will soon adopt a defensive attitude when playing against ya, and then all those hours doing 6 pools will be wasted. But as long as you don't care about that shit, go for it.


Exactly! Players knows that you can pull of a good 6 pool and play more defensively and not that greedy - that's best thing when you are playing in tournaments.

And then it will go into a standard game, in which the 6 pool guy will have a fuckton of less experience.

You don't need to spend a vast majority of your playing time on it to achieve what you're talking about. Jaedong mixes in 4/5-pools from time to time, especially in BoXs, and is a master of mindgames. You don't know what he's going to throw at you (unless you're Flash). But I guarantee you that he doesn't spend more than a 0.1 % of his practise time doing them. It's just a waste of time if you wanna be a good player in general.

This should be taken for what it is; a fun thing, and an interesting experiment.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Bad_Habit
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany243 Posts
November 09 2011 10:00 GMT
#250
i cannot win a 13 forge up the choke
I only gg vs protoss when I'm winning
JoeAWESOME
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden1080 Posts
November 09 2011 10:06 GMT
#251
On November 09 2011 18:41 Alpina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 18:36 Holgerius wrote:
Haha, this is funny. Good job man, grats!

Still, this is a horrible thing to do if you want to become an actual good player. Might work on ladder, but if you start playing in tournaments people will soon adopt a defensive attitude when playing against ya, and then all those hours doing 6 pools will be wasted. But as long as you don't care about that shit, go for it.


Exactly! Players knows that you can pull of a good 6 pool and play more defensively and not that greedy - that's best thing when you are playing in tournaments.



Then you're assuming that he go developed macro. But yeah, I see your point. Imagine if Idra had this 6 pool skill and used it from time to time. He would be 10 times more scarier!
Simply Awesome! - Liquid'Ret - NSHoSeo_Seal - coLMVP_DRG - EG_Idra - Fnatic.NightEnd
ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 10:09:32
November 09 2011 10:07 GMT
#252
On November 09 2011 19:00 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 18:41 Alpina wrote:
On November 09 2011 18:36 Holgerius wrote:
Haha, this is funny. Good job man, grats!

Still, this is a horrible thing to do if you want to become an actual good player. Might work on ladder, but if you start playing in tournaments people will soon adopt a defensive attitude when playing against ya, and then all those hours doing 6 pools will be wasted. But as long as you don't care about that shit, go for it.


Exactly! Players knows that you can pull of a good 6 pool and play more defensively and not that greedy - that's best thing when you are playing in tournaments.

And then it will go into a standard game, in which the 6 pool guy will have a fuckton of less experience.

You don't need to spend a vast majority of your playing time on it to achieve what you're talking about. Jaedong mixes in 4/5-pools from time to time, especially in BoXs, and is a master of mindgames. You don't know what he's going to throw at you (unless you're Flash). But I guarantee you that he doesn't spend more than a 0.1 % of his practise time doing them. It's just a waste of time if you wanna be a good player in general.

This should be taken for what it is; a fun thing, and an interesting experiment.


OP is just an example that 6 pool can be viable strategy if executed correctly, noone says you need to do 6 pool ALL THE TIME. Thing is you can learn how to execute 6 pool well so if you are good player, you can do this strategy from time to time and when you do it you know what you are doing, and chances that you win that one game in the tournament are better if you have practiced 6 pool before and know all little timings you need to know.
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
November 09 2011 10:17 GMT
#253
On November 09 2011 19:07 Alpina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 19:00 Holgerius wrote:
On November 09 2011 18:41 Alpina wrote:
On November 09 2011 18:36 Holgerius wrote:
Haha, this is funny. Good job man, grats!

Still, this is a horrible thing to do if you want to become an actual good player. Might work on ladder, but if you start playing in tournaments people will soon adopt a defensive attitude when playing against ya, and then all those hours doing 6 pools will be wasted. But as long as you don't care about that shit, go for it.


Exactly! Players knows that you can pull of a good 6 pool and play more defensively and not that greedy - that's best thing when you are playing in tournaments.

And then it will go into a standard game, in which the 6 pool guy will have a fuckton of less experience.

You don't need to spend a vast majority of your playing time on it to achieve what you're talking about. Jaedong mixes in 4/5-pools from time to time, especially in BoXs, and is a master of mindgames. You don't know what he's going to throw at you (unless you're Flash). But I guarantee you that he doesn't spend more than a 0.1 % of his practise time doing them. It's just a waste of time if you wanna be a good player in general.

This should be taken for what it is; a fun thing, and an interesting experiment.


OP is just an example that 6 pool can be viable strategy if executed correctly, noone says you need to do 6 pool ALL THE TIME. Thing is you can learn how to execute 6 pool well so if you are good player, you can do this strategy from time to time and when you do it you know what you are doing, and chances that you win that one game in the tournament are better if you have practiced 6 pool before and know all little timings you need to know.

Indeed. I was not referring to throwing in cheesy stuff every now and then as mindgames in BoXs in my initial post. I do agree that it's a useful talent toi have, as a Flash-fan I have a lot of appreciation for it. I was referring to basing your entire playstyle around it.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
TENTHST
Profile Joined December 2010
United States204 Posts
November 09 2011 10:51 GMT
#254
Wow, this is sick.
Yiska
Profile Joined November 2010
141 Posts
November 09 2011 10:53 GMT
#255
At least you are consistent in your strategy and personality.
Harasslehoff
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany9 Posts
November 09 2011 11:04 GMT
#256
What do you do vs Random?
Action is the real measure of intelligence.
Bad_Habit
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany243 Posts
November 09 2011 11:07 GMT
#257
On November 09 2011 20:04 Harasslehoff wrote:
What do you do vs Random?


ask them nicely what race they have :D
if not just normal 6pool^^
I only gg vs protoss when I'm winning
syriuszonito
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland332 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 11:27:11
November 09 2011 11:26 GMT
#258
Are you going to post the same thread again and again until every person on tl sees what an awsome gm player you are?
The one || My stream http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/syriuszonito
Oradri
Profile Joined September 2011
United States6 Posts
November 09 2011 11:32 GMT
#259
ha ha, i'm in your master division, i hope i dont play you, im pretty bad vs 6 pool :S
Geiko
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France1939 Posts
November 09 2011 11:32 GMT
#260
On November 09 2011 20:26 syriuszonito wrote:
Are you going to post the same thread again and again until every person on tl sees what an awsome gm player you are?


On November 09 2011 01:37 Bad_Habit wrote:
before you flame, an admin told me to repost it after i add some information about the strats because the old thread had already to much hate in it. just leave the hate of this and go to my blog. feel free to flame there, i sure do care.



Don't listen to the haters Habit, you're awesome <3
geiko.813 (EU)
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