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TheBamf
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark366 Posts
November 09 2011 16:03 GMT
#301
Every time I want to explain the crappy side of this game I am just gonna link this thread.

Things need to be done, one should not be able to get into GM by "refining" the easiest executed build in the game.
IM.Nestea | IM.MvP | MvP.DongRaeGu. | Genius | ST.Parting I SlayerS.MMA
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12491 Posts
November 09 2011 16:17 GMT
#302
On November 10 2011 01:03 TheBamf wrote:
Every time I want to explain the crappy side of this game I am just gonna link this thread.

Things need to be done, one should not be able to get into GM by "refining" the easiest executed build in the game.

It is not the easiest executed at all.
July and idra 6 pool almost always fails is the perfect example to this.

The easy part is getting the pool done, the hard part is to win with it, and it isn't easy at all. You should go and try it for 20 games and you would be surprised how hard it is to win with it (assuming you are at higher league of cause)
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
zvolim
Profile Joined January 2011
22 Posts
November 09 2011 16:19 GMT
#303
don't forget to mention that the only reason you did all that is because you're simple minded, not because of challenge or a bet from imaginary friends

User was warned for this post
blocur
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland6 Posts
November 09 2011 16:22 GMT
#304
I just want to say that all this bm from you is so sad.
Hister
Profile Joined June 2010
United States89 Posts
November 09 2011 16:23 GMT
#305
I remember losing to you when you 12 droned rushed me so I started 10 gating and owned you the next time. I like play like this shows that FFE is just as risky as going hatch first. I don't like though how probes suck vs 12 drone rush that is a real balance issue.
JustTray
Profile Joined May 2011
127 Posts
November 09 2011 16:40 GMT
#306
Well at least you'll be essential in getting the pool before overlord nerfed out of the game. So there's that. Shoulda happened at the same time they made rax require depot.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
November 09 2011 16:45 GMT
#307
On November 10 2011 01:40 JustTray wrote:
Well at least you'll be essential in getting the pool before overlord nerfed out of the game. So there's that. Shoulda happened at the same time they made rax require depot.

Do it, at least when I play zerg I start with an overlord
Gantritor
Profile Joined January 2011
Italy112 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 16:52:11
November 09 2011 16:51 GMT
#308
Whilst the topic about scv+rine allin into grandmaster was a rage-fest against terran, I like how this topic is all about "how skilled the op is" and "how well executed are his strats", not that on some maps and in some circustances 6 pool is broken (aka vs toss).
Eraserhead
Profile Joined October 2011
159 Posts
November 09 2011 16:59 GMT
#309
On November 10 2011 01:17 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 01:03 TheBamf wrote:
Every time I want to explain the crappy side of this game I am just gonna link this thread.

Things need to be done, one should not be able to get into GM by "refining" the easiest executed build in the game.

It is not the easiest executed at all.
July and idra 6 pool almost always fails is the perfect example to this.

The easy part is getting the pool done, the hard part is to win with it, and it isn't easy at all. You should go and try it for 20 games and you would be surprised how hard it is to win with it (assuming you are at higher league of cause)


Random scrub defeating code S players, not an easy build.
sOm
Profile Joined January 2011
United States43 Posts
November 09 2011 17:02 GMT
#310
Nice guide. It was entertaining to read. Hate zerg just a little more now
Glurkenspurk
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1915 Posts
November 09 2011 17:34 GMT
#311
On November 10 2011 01:03 TheBamf wrote:
Every time I want to explain the crappy side of this game I am just gonna link this thread.

Things need to be done, one should not be able to get into GM by "refining" the easiest executed build in the game.



Why not? The build isn't overpowered and it has nothing to do with the game itself. Most ladder players don't know how to defend cheese you are rarely put up against. And you can't fault them for that. Doing something stupid to nerf 6 pool all together would be bad for the game, you need crazy cheeses and stupid builds to keep it interesting.
itkovian
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1763 Posts
November 09 2011 17:46 GMT
#312
I hope more people starting trying to 6 pool me in ladder. It feels so satisfying to wall off and watch the drones/lings mill around on the ramp. But granted, a well executed six pool like this might be a bit challenging to deal with, especially when caught completely off gaurd
=)=
Savauge
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands18 Posts
November 09 2011 17:52 GMT
#313
TBH, where is the fun in 6-pooling..you can get GM ofc.. or whatever.. but you have 0 fun in doing that strat over and over again and again.. game is about fun..
"David some do it"
jnay
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada107 Posts
November 09 2011 17:53 GMT
#314
are you THE infamous "theres a guy who got to gm by 6 pooling"?
iLike413
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada100 Posts
November 09 2011 18:04 GMT
#315
On November 09 2011 20:58 ScythedBlade wrote:
Which now means one thing: Protoss *must* have a uber effective all-in early game strategy...

Terrans have mass marines, MULEs -> rape
Zergs have mass 6 pool zerglings ...

Protoss ... .... ... has nothing because Zealot timing got nerfed to 37 seconds =(.


Also, zealots are kind of terrible. Its viable to go off mass marines for a looong time, same with mass zerglings. Zealots are just.. uhg.
Rodiel3
Profile Joined March 2011
France1158 Posts
November 09 2011 18:11 GMT
#316
Poor play... have fun at least ^^
http://www.youtube.com/user/rodiel3 SCBW FPVOD
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
November 09 2011 18:13 GMT
#317
On November 10 2011 03:04 iLike413 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 20:58 ScythedBlade wrote:
Which now means one thing: Protoss *must* have a uber effective all-in early game strategy...

Terrans have mass marines, MULEs -> rape
Zergs have mass 6 pool zerglings ...

Protoss ... .... ... has nothing because Zealot timing got nerfed to 37 seconds =(.


Also, zealots are kind of terrible. Its viable to go off mass marines for a looong time, same with mass zerglings. Zealots are just.. uhg.

you guys have obviously never played against a well executed proxy 2gate with zealot micro
or a well executed pylon block in ZvP... hell Kiwikaki even did a guide on that in the strategy forum:
the short version: block him in, rush blink, win game...
Yarco
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada17 Posts
November 09 2011 18:33 GMT
#318
I recently started off-racing as zerg and have been focusing on inject timing, general macro, and holding off rushes when all along the answer was to rush myself :D.

When I first made the switch I tried 6pooling a few times but noticed it nearly always got scouted and blocked, I think it's time to go through the replays and give it another go. Curious to see how you keep your pool unscouted, as from what I can tell this is what always led to my demise.
Specialist
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States803 Posts
November 09 2011 18:38 GMT
#319
I don't see 6 pool working vs Gm lvl terran to be honest
Fuhrmaaj
Profile Joined January 2011
167 Posts
November 09 2011 18:39 GMT
#320
Okay, after watching all the replays (ALL the replays), I want to add my voice to the people who are disgusted with the BM. I don't think it's the type of thing that TL should endorse and I honestly think that every replay with BM in it should be taken down. It's poor sportsmanship, you can't do it at a tournament and it creates a bad image for esports and TL. If you want to share your guide, that's great and I encourage that even if it is a hated style - I think everyone has a right to play the way they want to. I don't think everyone has a right to post disrespectful things on a public forum.

To all the people who are discuss micro, I'm not sure that it's really that great. He says he's an exWC3pro, so everyone things he is some kind of micro master. If you have one build that you use against every race and get to practice the most difficult part once every 7 minutes or so, then you're bound to be good at one type of engagement. It looked to me like he knows some things about worker micro that most people don't know, so he wins games. Honestly, watching some of the ZvPs and ZvTs, I'm not sure what the pros could have done differently other than controlling the workers as well as OP does.

To those who think OP might be MaDFroG, I'm pretty sure he's sTa Habit and he wasn't a very well known WC3 player.

I generally don't react this way, but the BM and the lying really put me off. Best of luck in future endeavours!
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