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danteafk
307 Posts
1-1 marines are really godmode, love them i use this tactic usually only on large maps, otherwise on smaller ones i do reactor helion opening into this or 6rax pressure (if he does not die then transition into this build). but sometimes, i just get banelingbusted with this tactic... | ||
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HansK
249 Posts
On October 07 2011 20:23 danteafk wrote: i wanted to thank you for this thread and strategy, finally i have fun again playing against zerg. got also promoted to masters yesterday :D 1-1 marines are really godmode, love them i use this tactic usually only on large maps, otherwise on smaller ones i do reactor helion opening into this or 6rax pressure (if he does not die then transition into this build). but sometimes, i just get banelingbusted with this tactic... You have to have a lot of experience in scouting and defending baneling bust with this build. The only way to defend a full blown all in 2 base baneling bust with this build is 3 well placed bunkers with ebays in front and correct micro and positioning on your units. Doing that right every game they do a baneling bust is very hard but is possible. | ||
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Poopfeast
160 Posts
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TheSpoiler
United States4 Posts
If you have time, you should add this to liquipedia so that others may benefit from your wisdom! | ||
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Genome852
United States979 Posts
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OlDan
Austria36 Posts
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Iksf
United Kingdom444 Posts
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crocodile
United States615 Posts
However, I started doing a simple 1 rax 1 scv 2 marine pressure sometimes with bunkers. A Zerg CANNOT know if you are 1 rax FE'ing or proxy raxing, so almost every Zerg will overproduce lings or at the very least pull a bunch of drones. Through this method, I find that I am able to come out of the early game ahead or even almost invariably, and since we all know how lack of early game drones can easily snowball, I've gone from getting my drop roflpwnd every time to dealing a ton of damage in just about every game. I highly recommend people do early game marine pressure with this build, it more than pays for itself. | ||
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Pulimuli
Sweden2766 Posts
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Mobius_1
United Kingdom2763 Posts
Watched Illusion's reps, gotta say his transition into immediate 2-2 and superfast 3-3 with a strong backbone of Tanks is really, really smooth, and his early pressure with 8 or so Marines is quite good (although that might kill my macro at home haha) | ||
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ContactKilla
United States194 Posts
I feel like MarineKing when I use this too haha | ||
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MysteryHours
United States168 Posts
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Waah
United States120 Posts
On November 02 2011 12:04 MysteryHours wrote: I've been having great success with this build but today I lost horribly to a 2 base baneling bust. It was on Xel'Naga Caverns so the natural is very difficult to hold before tanks are out. Anyone have any tips for making it work in this situation? If the bust comes before the drop timing, scouting it beforehand and throwing down additional bunkers should do it. In the worst situation you'll have to lift off your natural, but I doubt he'll have enough banelings left to destroy the walloff on the ramp since he'll use the them on the bunkers instead. If he did make that many banelings, the zergling numbers should be low enough that you can pull off workers to hold and still be reasonably alright economically. It hasn't happened to me yet though, given that most Zergs tech straight to mutalisks and take a third when they feel zero pressure. Thanks for sharing this build by the way, it definitely deserves more attention. | ||
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HansK
249 Posts
On November 02 2011 12:47 Waah wrote: If the bust comes before the drop timing, scouting it beforehand and throwing down additional bunkers should do it. In the worst situation you'll have to lift off your natural, but I doubt he'll have enough banelings left to destroy the walloff on the ramp since he'll use the them on the bunkers instead. If he did make that many banelings, the zergling numbers should be low enough that you can pull off workers to hold and still be reasonably alright economically. It hasn't happened to me yet though, given that most Zergs tech straight to mutalisks and take a third when they feel zero pressure. Thanks for sharing this build by the way, it definitely deserves more attention. You're welcome and glad I could help some people. I'm planning on posting more guides on different cool builds one I get enough replays and details to make it worth it. | ||
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Pasquarette
United States3 Posts
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Xzilend
Canada29 Posts
Going to be using this build pretty much every game. Haven't tried it in TvP and TvT, but I'm interested in how it will work because it still sets you up for late game tech in both matchups. Having tech-labs on rax gives you marauders/ghosts, and reactor starport gives you vikings for TvP, and mass marines for TvT, with the infrastructure to do a tech switch. Thanks for the build! ^_^ | ||
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zmansman17
United States2567 Posts
Just a ton of marines with patrol back micro and splitting is enough to beat gm, rank 1 master zergs even with banelings. The only good counter to this build is the roach ling all in, which can be negated if I land 1-2 bunkers in front of my rax block after opening reaper FE. So handsome | ||
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sandman1454
United States96 Posts
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iZenn
United States22 Posts
P.S. Let's let this thread die so this stays a secret  | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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