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Skarbek
United Kingdom7 Posts
I've posted a replay on youtube of me using it against a friend who is in Plat. It's far from a perfect execution of the build especially when combined with gold league macro, but the drop does a huge amount of damage: http://www.youtube.com/user/SkarbekStarcraft#p/a/u/2/PW-GiVR0Rxw | ||
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lolpaca
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bandita
Romania3 Posts
I have a question about: "upgrade stim and combat shields same time" Why is this important to be started the same time? For me it seems better to start stimpack as soon as you have 100 gas and combat shield at next 100 gas since stimpack takes longer to research. Thanks. | ||
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BONE
United States176 Posts
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Chou Wai
2 Posts
I have read through this post and at first this really help me but I wonder if this build still can useful in HotS. This build seem nice to vs zerg in term of safe play and I like this at first and you said this can defend ling/bling atk before 10min. Maybe my micro is not good enough, I was eliminated by ling/bling (in the replay). I know my mediavc pop up time is slow (should be out on around 9.30), but it seems like I was totally defeated by ling/bling. Any advises? Btw this is my first post. Normally I prefer to read because reading can let me learn more. But this time since no one post any replay that ling/bling counter this build and I meet this case so I hope this replay can help alot. Thank you User was warned for this post | ||
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Zilong67
France12 Posts
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Fencar
United States2694 Posts
Another reason this build worked so well is because maps had close air positions. (think Metalopolis or Shattered Temple) Close air positions are non-existent on HotS maps. | ||
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Sated
England4983 Posts
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Jade
Poland289 Posts
On July 18 2013 00:21 Sated wrote: I don't even want to imagine close-by-air positions on Metalopolis or Shattered Temple with Speedvacs... Imagine tempest rushes. :v | ||
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hearters
Singapore224 Posts
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Chou Wai
2 Posts
Is there any method to enhance this build to suit current HotS such as having scout/scan on 7 min or? | ||
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MstrJinbo
United States1251 Posts
On July 18 2013 00:57 Chou Wai wrote: I see. Thanks for the advices. Since there are many patches updated and changing in HotS, some of the guides seem not as efficiency as before. Is there any method to enhance this build to suit current HotS such as having scout/scan on 7 min or? In todays metagame, You 1 Rax CC, the Zerg will take a super fast 3rd base and will survive with some combination of ling/bane/roach until the later lair tech kicks in. The 10 min pre muta timing basically doesnt exist anymore. There's really nothing you can do about it. You scout the third at 7 min, well you pretty much can't do anything to stop them not with range 5 queens anyways. | ||
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Fencar
United States2694 Posts
On July 18 2013 01:15 MstrJinbo wrote: In todays metagame, You 1 Rax CC, the Zerg will take a super fast 3rd base and will survive with some combination of ling/bane/roach until the later lair tech kicks in. The 10 min pre muta timing basically doesnt exist anymore. There's really nothing you can do about it. You scout the third at 7 min, well you pretty much can't do anything to stop them not with range 5 queens anyways. Actually I talked with a 1100+ point Terran, he said that what you do is reaper expand, then if you don't scout anything too fishy with your Reaper, you go really fast 3CC and then make a huge swell of units in the mid game and then try to kill/cripple the Zerg. | ||
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MstrJinbo
United States1251 Posts
On July 19 2013 05:03 Dark.EX wrote: Actually I talked with a 1100+ point Terran, he said that what you do is reaper expand, then if you don't scout anything too fishy with your Reaper, you go really fast 3CC and then make a huge swell of units in the mid game and then try to kill/cripple the Zerg. Yeah that's pretty much what happens these days. Don't really see how this contradicts what I said though. | ||
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Fencar
United States2694 Posts
On July 19 2013 06:34 MstrJinbo wrote: Oh right, you didn't say gasless- you just said 1 rax CC.Yeah that's pretty much what happens these days. Don't really see how this contradicts what I said though. It's just that 1 rax CC could mean virtually anything.  | ||
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PaulGao
1 Post
Thanks! | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On July 18 2013 01:15 MstrJinbo wrote: In todays metagame, You 1 Rax CC, the Zerg will take a super fast 3rd base and will survive with some combination of ling/bane/roach until the later lair tech kicks in. The 10 min pre muta timing basically doesnt exist anymore. There's really nothing you can do about it. You scout the third at 7 min, well you pretty much can't do anything to stop them not with range 5 queens anyways. Um you don't 1 rax CC. Todays metagame is CC first or 1 rax reaper expand. There is no reason to do a 1 rax expand anymore, if you are going to do that you might as well go reaper it's better in every way possible. | ||
KadaverBB
Germany25658 Posts
On July 22 2013 14:23 PaulGao wrote: Hi it's great! I'm a diamond Z in korea server. I think TVZ is more easier than ZVT. In current vertion, how can I play ZVT more agrresive or more sucessful ? Do you have some replays for me to improve my ZVT. Thanks! You should check out the Zerg Help Me thread. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=402752 | ||
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