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Temporarykid
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada362 Posts
September 13 2011 01:12 GMT
#41
Be confident; it's a lot to do with this thread imho: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=244816

Hope it helps, that thread has/had really helped me improve on my ladder anxiety! : )
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Ayrleand
Profile Joined August 2010
16 Posts
September 13 2011 01:13 GMT
#42
A lot of people gave answers I believe are correct in this thread, however I think it's a combination of all of them. General game experience will solve a lot of that anxiety in most games, as you'll have seen what's going on before and feel better about it and how to counter it. This also comes into "caring about the game." You can't just not care about the game, but going into a game thinking "I MUST WIN" is going to give you that anxiety. It's easier to go into a game thinking "I must learn" instead, as a loss will actually be more beneficial.

When it comes to seeing something you've never seen before in your initial scouting or something, that stress can come back because it's something different. Perhaps it's in micro when you know you have to do 3 things in the same second, while also macroing, while also prepping an expansion, and again that all just comes with time.

Overall my advice: Play lots of games, you'll learn more from losses than wins really, so don't be afraid to lose to something you don't know. Don't just cave the game, however, try to counter it, but don't be afraid to lose. Also take a break every 3-5 games.
Syrupjuice
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States173 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-13 08:24:25
September 13 2011 08:23 GMT
#43
I'll start off by saying that I think there are a lot of factors that go into creating and maintaining a calm mindset while playing Starcraft (or any intense game, such as an FPS).

A lot of people have been honing in on situational anxiety, or basically freaking out at things that catch you off guard during a game, but from the Original Post I do not think that that is what you were really getting at. Instead of looking at situation, I want to look at stimulation.

When you are playing a game of Starcraft, even though all of the action is on the screen, your entire environment plays a part in your performance. This is talked about a lot in terms of LAN conditions, but I strongly believe that you can make a correlation to your home practice/play. So, there are some things you can ask yourself: Is the room I am playing in loud, dirty, dimly lit, etc.? Do I play when I am tired, or well rested? Do I listen to music while I play, and if so what kind? There are many more questions you can ask yourself, personally, to try to figure out what stimulation effect your play.

By this, I will give an example of myself: When I played FPS games a lot I realized that whenever there was a lot of gun fire and explosions I got really frazzled and couldn't aim well. So, to try and counter this I started to play with no sound at all. Normally people would say that having no sound creates an obvious disadvantage, but because I did not have the distraction of the loud noises I was able to react calmly to what I saw clearly on the screen. I quickly noticed a strong correlation between my accuracy and maintaining a calm state of mind.

When I started to play Starcraft 2 I experienced a very similar thing. Whenever I was in big battles, and especially when battles were at my front door, they just threw me for a loop. It wasn't necessarily because I had never experienced the situation before (because I had several times xD), but because there was just so much being presented to me that I couldn't focus on what needed to be done in order to get through the conflict. I tried several different things to try and take out some ingame stimulants so I could hone in on my thinking and what I saw. I first tried taking off unit response sounds. This proved to be amazing! There is no need to hear the same corny phrases start and stop as you cycle through units, issuing commands repeatedly. And not having the unit response sounds helped me to pay more attention to my mini-map and pop up notifications than on the sound ques.

Since then I have stepped up from taking out unit response sounds to playing with no music or sounds, period. This isn't for everyone by any means, but I have found that if all I have is the picture on the screen and my own thoughts I am able to easily read the situation and react accordingly, without my mind be cluttered with excess stimulation. At LANS, I use a pair of closed-ear headphones and play a sound sample of a thunderstorm on repeat to create some background/white noise.

tl;dr

Try seeing if you can take away some stimulants, both in and out of game. Try to play in a quiet room, or try taking away the unit response sounds and ambient sounds, and see if that can help you direct your focus on the ingame situations. Playing without sound isn't for everyone, but it can help you maintain a focused and calm mind even when there are explosions on screen.

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phiinix
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1169 Posts
September 13 2011 16:30 GMT
#44
Play more. Know that better players don't do different strategies than what you're use to, they just do the same strategy you've seen in a better way.
TheSambassador
Profile Joined May 2010
United States186 Posts
September 13 2011 16:52 GMT
#45
Also... play Random, or try to off-race sometimes.

Knowing how hard it is for your opponent to do things is very helpful. It also helps you feel out timings and understand that things that seemed "imba" or "easy" are actually pretty hard.

This will help you feel calmer when you're playing your main race, as you'll have a much better feel for what your opponent can have.
Greth
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Belgium318 Posts
September 13 2011 17:20 GMT
#46
As a zerg player, I have adopted the stance of thinking I've already lost. Then when I win a battle it comes as a welcome surprise!

I think a key factor in getting rid of the angst is to get to the point where you don't see a win or a loss but a series of events. That after a game you can tell yourself 'hey I did well in the early game but I screwed up mid game'.
SC2 is a very rock / paper / scissors so you will always lose games even if you might have thought you were ahead. That's how things are right now.

Another thing is realising that your opponent is just another player. That he won't have a magical army suddenly appear out of nowhere, or that he'll be way ahead of you no matter what before the 3-4 minute mark.
And that will only come with experience.
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CrazyDragon
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5 Posts
September 13 2011 17:29 GMT
#47
just lose a bunch of games so you don't care anymore.

also move around the map with your stalkers, get vision with towers, observers, probes so you know what hes doing and you'll feel better
archangel967
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada111 Posts
September 13 2011 17:49 GMT
#48
The best advice I can give is: Have a plan.

Pick whatever builds you're going to do before you start the game. You will have to adapt on the fly but if you put some of your attention into your plan it will help to calm down a bit.

And as others have said, practice, practice, practice. Specifically practice calming down. Think about the feelings you are having. Once you start thinking about them you may realize that your fears aren't as bad as you think. Thinking about very specifically and focusing on them will help you to understand them and once you understand them you can work on ways to resolve them.
When you're ahead, get further ahead.
Mordanis
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States893 Posts
September 13 2011 19:05 GMT
#49
Another player of about your level, and I've experienced much the same thing, but for me I can pretty much control it except for my mouse hand, which at one point was shaking almost 1 inch on the actual mat, so it made doing anything ingame impossible. Every other time I've had that feeling though, just taking a deep breath and taking a 1 second break from the game really helped.
I love the smell of napalm in the morning... it smells like... victory. -_^ Favorite SC2 match ->Liquid`HerO vs. SlayerS CranK g.1 @MLG Summer Championship
Tuplex
Profile Joined May 2010
80 Posts
September 13 2011 21:03 GMT
#50
I think the best thing you can do is get promoted so you are like rank 83 diamond, and then you won't stress so much. Being in the #1 spot on anything is tough, it makes the losses much harder to handle.

You feel the stress you do because you care perhaps too much about the result. Since I am not a professional SC2 player, I view every game as "practice" and a chance to learn or get better. When I think about it that way, I am much more relaxed during the game.
Veclada
Profile Joined September 2010
742 Posts
September 13 2011 21:05 GMT
#51
Drinking lots of water Is what I usally do
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NTTemplar
Profile Joined August 2011
609 Posts
September 13 2011 22:46 GMT
#52
I recommend relaxing music; that means not your favorite metallica song, or katy perry's fireworks or taio something's dynamite etc, or a full on orchestral music score etc, you get the idea.

But something like yirumaesque (did I use that right...), at least something in the style of yiruma can work wonders, but there are also songs like many of those james blunt have, or with the same "atmosphere" so to speak, or some calm orchestral pieces with some charming violins a smooth single flute or so. again, you get the idea.

When you do have music on, I also recommend turning all SC2 sounds off. True this might make you find out in a game a dropship killed your main, or that hellions have engulfed every drone in your 4th and 3rd in flames, but on a positive note it will make you better at using the minimap since sound is no longer a viable source to spot these things.

Though DT's are still quite the "bitches" to put it in a vulgar way.

You will in the beginning most likely lose a few silly games due to completely failing to stop some sort of harrash, but you should stay very calm thus hopefully play better than usual and overall win more games. And after a short period of practice only, you should start to notice you are much better at using the minimap.

Using the minimap a lot is great for much more than just stopping harrash so it could turn out to be a huge boost (personally I find the minimap a great way to remember I need to spread creep since I see creep on the map and get reminded).
"Between Tomorrow's dream and yesterday's regret, is today's opportunity"
garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
September 13 2011 22:58 GMT
#53
Play more, understand the game better, get better. You're losing your cool because you don't know how to react in certain situations. That will change over time (if you play) and with experience.
#TeamBuLba
Thezzy
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2117 Posts
September 14 2011 08:20 GMT
#54
Having a basic plan helps as it will guide you during the game.
Whatever happens to you, be it DT harass or a 6pool, stick with the plan and try to execute to the best of your abilities and focus on that.

Aside from that, just hit that Find Game button and play games.
The more you play, the more relaxed games become.
Playing Terran is like flying down a MULE drop in a marine suit, firing a Gauss Rifle
-Cyrus-
Profile Joined June 2011
United States318 Posts
September 14 2011 08:41 GMT
#55
You don't want to remain calm. That's bad. Just don't let your panicking effect your mechanics and learn to use it to help speed you up.
eugalp
Profile Joined August 2011
United States203 Posts
September 14 2011 14:31 GMT
#56
I have a somewhat similar problem. I'm not especially nervous during games most of the time - maybe just some elevated excitement which I'm sure is normal. However when I'm under pressure I get EXTREMELY nervous. If I'm being cheesed for example. Like, if I'm facing a 4-gate and he is warping in pylons below my ramp, I literally freak out. Obviously this prevents me from playing well in those circumstances (remembering to build pylons, warp in units etc).
"More GG more skill" - White-Ra
Perfect
Profile Joined August 2010
United States322 Posts
September 14 2011 14:34 GMT
#57
Adrenalin rushes are just part of the game. Take a deep breath, check the mini map and try not to make huge mistakes.

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