I'm trying to download the hoykeys but I keep getting this every time I click the download link.

HTTP 404 - Object Not Found
The requested URL was not found on this server.

Something on your side? or my computer being gay..

Catgroove

Sweden67 Posts

September 04 2011 14:16 GMT

#42

Do you really think alt + 5TGB is comfy?

B34ST

United Kingdom150 Posts

September 05 2011 00:25 GMT

#43

FoxyMayhem updates on the download problem?

FoxyMayhem

624 Posts

September 08 2011 23:53 GMT

#44

Sorry guys, I've been away from this thread for a while, I thought it had died!

Okay, I'm using a new file hosting service. Download links updated.

On September 03 2011 21:40 ApocAlypsE007 wrote:
Foxy
I like very much your layout, it takes time for me to get used to that after using the default keys for so long. As a Protoss player the only thing I didn't like is "y" as shortcut to warpgates. Have you tried to use middle mouse as shortcut to warpgates? It works for me as I never middle mouse scroll and it is much more comfortable, as my mind easier process pressing a bottom so close than to move less accurate left hand to far letter y and combine with q,w,e,d,f.

You're welcome! <3 Thank you for saying so.
I believe using a mouse key for warpgates is optimal, since your next action is done with the keyboard had, so it has a nice alternation (mouse hand warpgate select, keyboard hand unit select, mouse click for warp in). This customization is excellent.

As for making it a part of the main layout, I cannot assume players have 3 mouse buttons, and even if I did, placing a 1-race-only ability on the third mouse button is less than optimal for the other races. This is the compromise (one that works well with the 6Y tap for positioning the camera), and is only slightly less than optimal. I am glad you're optimizing it for your race, though.

I've also recommend Terrans set Liftoff to Y, replacing the Protoss-Only Warpgate select for a more convenient reach. Since I play all the races regularly, the layouts I've shared (hopefully) work well for all and are easy to switch races between, while sacrificing very little.

On September 04 2011 23:16 Catgroove wrote:
Do you really think alt + 5TGB is comfy?

Are you using your thumb to press Alt? Alt + B is not comfortable, but B is only used a bit in the lategame. I suggest setting it with Ctrl. If they are uncomfortable for you, using Ctrl is still an option for all Control Groups.

SwordfishConspiracy

United States146 Posts

September 19 2011 19:23 GMT

#45

It looks like the download for the mouse enhanced version is broken. Just brings me to the FileDropper homepage.

Gomox

32 Posts

September 20 2011 13:10 GMT

#46

Sorry I got a stupid question :D Do you put your Thumb on F and your pinky somewhere, or do you put your pinky on Q and your thumb on space or alt???

FoxyMayhem

624 Posts

September 21 2011 04:15 GMT

#47

Fixed the Mouse Enhanced link. Thanks, Swordfish.

It's cool Gomox, don't worry about it. You place your thumb on spacebar/alt. I've updated the original post to clarify.

SwordfishConspiracy

United States146 Posts

September 21 2011 06:13 GMT

#48

I'd love to use this as-is, but unfortunately it's impossible for Mac users to use CMD+V and CMD+H to set control groups (due to a system limitation according to the Mac Tech Support blizz forums). It looks like I'm going to have to make some modifications so we'll see how it goes.

FlubbaSet

Germany7 Posts

September 28 2011 19:17 GMT

#49

I'm a high master Terran and I switched to this hotkey layout a few days ago.
I had to change some keys and I need like 3-4 days to switch.
But now I feel very comfortable with these hotkeys and I think I play better and have more potential to improve. I can suggest everyone who plays just one race to switch. It is possible. I played over a year with standard hotkeys.

Thanks for the guide.

kirdie

Germany221 Posts

September 28 2011 19:35 GMT

#50

Can you do one for left handed people too ? :-)

rohanim41

Canada60 Posts

October 07 2011 03:16 GMT

#51

I guess this happens with every race, i play protoss, an all my probes are automaticaly hotkeyed together to 0, so i can just look at it and say, Daaaamn i have 90 probes, should kill some..
can this be illegal in some way, getting your probe count from automated hotkeyeing ?

FoxyMayhem

624 Posts

October 08 2011 03:11 GMT

#52

Okay, so file dropper failed me again. I've placed the files in my skydrive and made them public, hopefully that will fix things! Download link available at the bottom of the post, like usual. Thank to AneXus for pointing out the broken link.

@rohanim41: Automated hotkeying (aka, you're not the one selecting the probe and pressing shift/ctrl 0) is against the Blizzard terms of service, and according to the ELUA they can close your account for that. It would be super nice to have an automated worker count, especially for the lower leagues, but yeah.

As for doing left handed one, maybe in the future. If you just take the same principles and mirror them you should come out with something pretty good. If you do make one, I can post it in this thread if you like.

Glad to know it's working out for you so well, Flub! I know that now that I'm practiced with it I do a lot better. Still working on my control for lategame queen/brood/infestor control versus the P deathball. I tend to default back to ctrl+click selection instead of hotkeys T.T, ha ha ha. Not good when you need to be so fast.

Hey, do you guys know Queen/Brood/Infestor is really, really good? Throw some roaches in, and if you lose your army (though I don't know how, I've taken down so many 200/200 protoss balls with it only losing 20-40 food) you can remax on roach-hydra.

AneXus

United States1 Post

October 08 2011 04:39 GMT

#53

Thanks for the quick fix to the download problem! I've only played a cpl of games with the layout and I have to thank you for the wonderful work you've put in.

Geovu

Estonia1344 Posts

October 08 2011 06:05 GMT

#54

Dud post srry

Rainling

United States456 Posts

October 09 2011 06:01 GMT

#55

I've been using this setup for a couple of weeks now, and what I've noticed so far is that I have made an insane number of accidental lairs and queens (while making roaches and zerglings) and my banelings tend to explode spontaneously when I'm trying to click the r unit hotkey. It's a great setup, but not very forgiving of mistakes (at least for zerg, I don't know about the other races).

FoxyMayhem

624 Posts

October 10 2011 23:37 GMT

#56

Oh my! That's no good.

I main as Zerg, and when first switching I occasionally made a some extra lairs or overseers, but I haven't had a problem for quite a while. Since everything is close together, it does make a misclick more likely, though...

If anyone else is having this problem, tell me, and I'll create a revised version to help reduce misclicks (sacrificing some speed). Rain, do you mind if I ask if you are Gold league or lower?

ineffablepwnage

22 Posts

October 10 2011 23:41 GMT

#57

On October 07 2011 12:16 rohanim41 wrote:
I guess this happens with every race, i play protoss, an all my probes are automaticaly hotkeyed together to 0, so i can just look at it and say, Daaaamn i have 90 probes, should kill some..
can this be illegal in some way, getting your probe count from automated hotkeyeing ?

when i downloaded the file, the 0 group was messed up so that add units to it was the same as select its units so whenever I had any units selected and tried to switch to 0 it would add all of them to it. You just have to go change the keys for setting group 0 to [shift]+0.

FoxyMayhem

624 Posts

October 10 2011 23:44 GMT

#58

Thank you! I thought I eliminated that error. I will change it immediately.

EDIT: Version 1.2.1 released
* The 10th control group (N) for Keyboard Only will now bind units correctly
* All version have corrected a post SC2 update 1.4.1 hotkey conflict: Baneling explode on building button is set to 7 (like liftoff/land), instead of G, where it conflicted with the G control group.

Rainling

United States456 Posts

October 11 2011 05:50 GMT

#59

On October 11 2011 08:37 FoxyMayhem wrote:
Oh my! That's no good.

I main as Zerg, and when first switching I occasionally made a some extra lairs or overseers, but I haven't had a problem for quite a while. Since everything is close together, it does make a misclick more likely, though...

If anyone else is having this problem, tell me, and I'll create a revised version to help reduce misclicks (sacrificing some speed). Rain, do you mind if I ask if you are Gold league or lower?

I'm a diamond Zerg. One game, I was trying to baneling bust, and I made and cancelled like 4 lairs, wasting a ton of gas haha. I used to macro pretty inefficiently (instead of clicking wffffffff, clicking fwffwwfffwf), but I don't do that much anymore. Maybe if I clean up my macro this won't be a problem. However, the explode hotkey is too close to other control groups to be safe imo.

FoxyMayhem

624 Posts

October 11 2011 15:42 GMT

#60

Ah, I see. Do you rest your fingers on the recommended places? (Pinkie on Q, Ring on W, Middle on E, Pointer on F, Thumb on Space). If you do that, then you have to reach for control groups, which is an action never taken when activating any of those keys, even baneling explode. The two actions are so completely different, a straight key press versus a reach key press, that I have never accidentally exploded banelings with this setup (unlike grid, where I did it an cried all the time, ha ha ha). So I suspect it may be your hand positioning.