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Ouga
Profile Joined March 2008
Finland645 Posts
July 05 2011 22:25 GMT
#21
Queueing two at once is definately good idea once game has progressed a bit. What's the point of risking cc not pumping scvs for even a second? Ofc there has to be next one in line. Then just try to remember going thru CCs while macroing, like you go thru raxes/starports etc.
Grebliv
Profile Joined May 2006
Iceland800 Posts
July 05 2011 22:28 GMT
#22
keep a build workers mental note in your head.

It's basically just a rhythm , you'll want to hit your cc hotkey and do S*number of cc's every ~15-20 sec unless you don't need more workers or want to cut them for a bit.

you'll get used to it and eventually they just seem to make themselves and then you have more time to micro

Same thing for units and depots really although times may vary.
ESV Mapmaking!
Akukami
Profile Joined December 2010
United States24 Posts
July 05 2011 22:32 GMT
#23
I turned off my sound. It may not work for you, but it forced me to develop good habits, one of them being to go through all of my hot-keyed structures to make sure they're active.
GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
July 05 2011 22:34 GMT
#24
4545454545454545454545454545 or whatever your structures are hotkeyed to. You don't need to do it quickly but it's really helpful for me.
Tatari
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1179 Posts
July 05 2011 22:45 GMT
#25
Just keep practicing, and make it a part of your habits when playing, I guess. I've gotten myself to have a feel as to when all of my Nexuses have 25 energy, so all I do is 55eec*click*66eec*click* etc.

Of course, towards the later stages of the game, I my sense ends up scrambled so I queue up 5 at a time.
A fed jungler is no longer a jungler, but a terrorist.
Eleaven
Profile Joined September 2010
772 Posts
July 05 2011 22:46 GMT
#26
the majority of pro reps i watch have a pretty consistant 2 worker queue during the mid and lategame when theres a lot of micro happening.

It'd be a shame to lose out on worker production over the price of 50 minerals..
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12886 Posts
July 05 2011 22:49 GMT
#27
First with muscle memory (or habit) : blindy 7- S S (two Orbital commands), I dont queue up scv and I add the 2nd nearly rght before the 1st finish
second while cycling through production facilities, this is how I notice mules. In the midgame its more blind scv creation because I use scans more and have to micro more often, but it still creates scv and I dont even notice. The hard thing is to take time to watch saturation and constantly remember to not produce scv anymore :s
WriterMaru
Perfect
Profile Joined August 2010
United States322 Posts
July 05 2011 22:52 GMT
#28
The most helpful part about your responses so far is reassuring me that its okay to queue up 2-3 scvs mid game when I'm fighting. I would never do that as i thought it is a waste and would prevent me from making reinforcements.
Adrenaline Seed
Profile Joined August 2010
United States194 Posts
July 05 2011 22:55 GMT
#29
Don't remember. Tap your CC key all the time, like breathing. Once in mid game queue up 2 at a time when things get busy, and keep tapping no matter what your doing. Why queue 2 instead of 1? It is easier to forget in mid game and the cost of an extra queue (after second base is down) is not as bad as missing a cycle. You might be thinking, sure that works for gold level. However, it works for even tip top play, download some replays of MMA from sc2rep.com and watch how he does it.
Think Big. Act Small. Fail Fast. Learn Quickly.
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 23:01:20
July 05 2011 22:59 GMT
#30
Queuing a few workers now and again really isn't going to matter that much unless you are at the tip top of GM, even if you want to get there one day losing in the late game because you have poor economy due to low worker count is far worse in my opinion than wasting 50-100 minerals on workers being queued in the mid game when all the micromanagement needs focusing on. Don't worry about it too much is my help to you, but I don't have any techniques in mind to never forget to build any during engagements and multitasking.
iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
July 05 2011 23:01 GMT
#31
On July 06 2011 07:23 Hider wrote:
I expect a lot of Day9 fanboys to hate me for saying this, but there is something most players dont do enough: Que up scvs!

The extra 50-200 minerals you pay for queing is easily worth it after a few mins if you can get constant scv production. Esp. if your going to engange or harass. Just have 2 scvs at each OC qued up. I think a player like Select (who has pretty bad macro) would beneefit a lot from this.


I sadly agree. If I'm on two base, I'll cue up to 4 -- 2 at each. On 3+ base I'll cue about 6, again 2 at each. (including one building)

For me, remembering to STOP building scvs is my problem. Just finshed a 39 minute TvZ 121 scvs to 121 drones. He killed maybe 10 all game with mutas and run bys. I killed like 30+ with base kills.

All I ever do is my first hotkey is always 5! 5ss 5ss . That way I never forget when I cycle through my 09rax7fac6port cycles. I gotta put ebays on 8 but thats irking me trying it.

In short, que and cycle through nexus more. I think you're P, because a guy named Perfect is 2-0 vs me.
Unbiased biased terran abuser Jeffrey. Sorry for the rage, friend!
Adrenaline Seed
Profile Joined August 2010
United States194 Posts
July 05 2011 23:32 GMT
#32
On July 06 2011 08:01 iAmJeffReY wrote:

All I ever do is my first hotkey is always 5! 5ss 5ss . That way I never forget when I cycle through my 09rax7fac6port cycles. I gotta put ebays on 8 but thats irking me trying it.



You know you can use tilde as a bind?
Think Big. Act Small. Fail Fast. Learn Quickly.
DennyR
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany379 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 00:25:53
July 06 2011 00:20 GMT
#33
On July 06 2011 08:32 Adrenaline Seed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 08:01 iAmJeffReY wrote:

All I ever do is my first hotkey is always 5! 5ss 5ss . That way I never forget when I cycle through my 09rax7fac6port cycles. I gotta put ebays on 8 but thats irking me trying it.



You know you can use tilde as a bind?



wtf really? gotta try that and if thats true... wow I have to thank you.... AT TON!



edit: doesnt work..
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
July 06 2011 00:35 GMT
#34
It just goes with my APM spam that continues throughout the match. Goes
1. Army (Ready to fight?)
2. Harass (Am I harassing him?)
3. There isn't a 3.
4. Am I building army? Do I have enough army structures? How's my Supply?
5. Am I building probes?

And over and over and over. When I'm spamming I go through that checklist.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Cryhavoc
Profile Joined April 2010
372 Posts
July 06 2011 00:45 GMT
#35
i have the exact opposite problem i just cant stop probe production
going for a timing push? build probes
have no army? build probes
supply blocked? build probes
En Taro Adun!
spbelky
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States623 Posts
July 06 2011 00:59 GMT
#36
Game sound on?


SCV GOOD TO GO SIR!
Make new scv
repeat
xHassassin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States270 Posts
July 06 2011 01:00 GMT
#37
I find it hard to remember to build workers after I reach ~50 and have two fully saturated bases. Mostly because it feels so uncomfortable trying to take a 3rd.
zakmaa
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada525 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 01:05:23
July 06 2011 01:03 GMT
#38
Personally as a Zerg player that's all I do unless I need to build fighting units.

But I off-race as Terran, and when I do, I just have a good memory and remember to build them. Whenever I build more units (Marines, Tanks etc.,) then I'll check my nearest CC to see if there's an SCV in production or not. If not then I queue one up for all of my CCs, assuming there's more than one.



On July 06 2011 09:20 DennyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 08:32 Adrenaline Seed wrote:

You know you can use tilde as a bind?



wtf really? gotta try that and if thats true... wow I have to thank you.... AT TON!



edit: doesnt work..



Yes it does. You need to re-map 0 (or another key) to `. I use it for all of my production facilities as T and for all of my hatches as Z.
mrpeanut
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
4 Posts
July 06 2011 01:06 GMT
#39
for me i just tap through my warpgates and nexus constantly. I see when my warpgates are ready as soon as it happens and I always know when my probes are about to finish. Another thing i have done is i remapped jump to nexus (in your case command center) from backspace to the space bar. So whenever i feel like i havent checked in a while i can press space with my thumb and click on my nexus to see. Hope this helped ^^
pandaminion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States270 Posts
July 06 2011 01:14 GMT
#40
As Zerg, I find I build drones whenever I'm not making army :D
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