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Wyrd
United States211 Posts
3 marines beat 1 roach 4 zerglings beat a queen 3 zealots beat 1 archon 1 thor beats 1 immortal 4 marines beat 1 dark templar 1 phoenix beats 1 viking 1 void ray beats 2 mutalisks 1 Brood Lord barely beats 2 stalkers 3 corrupters beat 1 battlecruiser 4 magic boxed mutas beat 1 Thor Various other matchups in the same vid: (not meant to be self-promoting, made it to help!) | ||
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Kaitlin
United States2958 Posts
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Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
On September 07 2011 14:16 Kaitlin wrote: Based on that video, it's interesting that unseiged tanks do better against Immortals than seiged tanks. I guess without splash damage, since there was only one immortal in the analysis. Also, the Void Ray vs. Phoenix probably only applies in the low Bronze league, since nobody is going to let the void charge up on the phoenix... Siege tanks have always had higher single target dps while unsieged than sieged. You siege them for the increased range and for the aoe, not for higher single target nuking. | ||
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
Say you are building reinforcements or building your army. This can be reinforcing an extremely aggressive push, to just massing roaches at your base. When you select your bases, select the larva, and then morph them to the unit of choice, after hitting RRRR (or whatever unit of choice), hit "Shift + Ctrl Group" and you will add them to the control group! So if you want to rally aggressively and kill someone's base with speedling pressure, but you want to avoid overlords floating to their death, mutas from flying over a million turrets at someone base because it's inbetween your base and your mutas, units from just sitting parked outside someone's base doing nothing, roaches idling in your base doing nothing instead of defending your third from getting sniped because the rally point enemy/your unit was killed off, or zerglings attacking a hatchery and possibly getting killed by broodlings instead of fighting in the opponents main, you can do this! It's just the most awesome control thing ever, and I've never seen anyone else do this. The larva won't be added to the control group, but the morphing eggs will, and only what you made (so to add 10 lings to your control group and join with your attacking force, and a single overlord, just hit "hatch - larva - overlord - hatch - larva - ZZZZZ - shift+1". When done correctly, when your moving your control group around, every where you click, you'll see rally lines for the eggs. Your control group will also include eggs, which will momentarily turn into units. | ||
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Kaitlin
United States2958 Posts
edit: Also, when using this method, realize your units will be streaming across the map, if you're in the middle of attacking, so just make sure Mutas aren't flying over dangerous areas, etc. I use this method and find that it's a touch slower in macroing, but makes up for it with automatic army control. | ||
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
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Nightshake
France412 Posts
Normally, you can't go inside a damaged bunker with SCV's until the bunker is fully repaired. But you can use the ability "Charge" from the bunker and click on VCS to charge them into the unrepaired bunker. In TvZ, on maps like Shakuras Plateau, use Planetarys on middle map to support your ground force and to let you use more supply for Vikings. | ||
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Rykyu
France19 Posts
On September 08 2011 10:01 Belial88 wrote: ^ No, the larva won't be added to the control group. Yes they will... The fact that they are added might not be relevant immediately as they remain larva and all actions applied to larva nullifies. However the worst part is whatever that larva becomes, it is already in the control group. For example if you have 20 larva, you make 10 mutas, add it directly to a control group without deselecting the larva, then make 10 drones with the leftover larva, you will end up with a control group of 10 mutas and 10 drones. Trust me, it happens a lot when you're trying to harass and forget to remove the drones you are morphing behind. Which is why the Ctrl+Shift+Click larva is essential and really useful. | ||
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Kaitlin
United States2958 Posts
Tip (Z): When droning up a new expansion, you can reduce drone "transfer" time by using up the larva from the new expansion to make drones instead of overlords. | ||
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KimJongChill
United States6429 Posts
On September 15 2011 01:29 Rykyu wrote: Yes they will... The fact that they are added might not be relevant immediately as they remain larva and all actions applied to larva nullifies. However the worst part is whatever that larva becomes, it is already in the control group. For example if you have 20 larva, you make 10 mutas, add it directly to a control group without deselecting the larva, then make 10 drones with the leftover larva, you will end up with a control group of 10 mutas and 10 drones. Trust me, it happens a lot when you're trying to harass and forget to remove the drones you are morphing behind. Which is why the Ctrl+Shift+Click larva is essential and really useful. I think this is what happens as well. I'll check it out later but I'm pretty sure you're right. | ||
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Oboeman
Canada3980 Posts
On September 19 2011 12:16 KimJongChill wrote: I think this is what happens as well. I'll check it out later but I'm pretty sure you're right. unselect the larva by either ctrl-shit click on larva or ctrl-click on egg before shifting them into the control group. I do this all the time and can't imagine how anyone gets by without it; however, if you want to leave small groups of untis in each base to defend drops you have to consciously rally them and not group them, and not forget about them later. when I misclick or forget to unselect, I sometimes end up with drones or overlords in my control groups. woops | ||
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drooL
United Kingdom2108 Posts
#550: Add your upgrade buildings to the control group of your main buildings (Nexus/CC/Hatch). That way, everytime you tap to your townhall to build workers you can see if your upgrades are rolling right now (and in most cases you never want to stop upgrading) and if they are not just tab once and get them going. You also permanently get reminded of chronoboosting them. As protoss for example you can also add your Twilight Council etc. | ||
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Jaeger
United States1150 Posts
Let B equal the amount of time it takes to complete a building. If you want the building and upgrade to complete together while chronoboosting constantly start the building when the upgrade progress is (U - 1.5*B). Example: if you want your twilight council to finish just in time to start +2 attack while constantly chronoboosting +1 attack start it when +1 is at (160 - 1.5*50) or 85 (i.e. just over half way). | ||
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Kaitlin
United States2958 Posts
On October 14 2011 08:59 Jaeger wrote: Let U equal the amount of time it takes to complete an unchronoboosted upgrade or unit. Let B equal the amount of time it takes to complete a building. If you want the building and upgrade to complete together while chronoboosting constantly start the building when the upgrade progress is (U - 1.5*B). Example: if you want your twilight council to finish just in time to start +2 attack while constantly chronoboosting +1 attack start it when +1 is at (160 - 1.5*50) or 85 (i.e. just over half way). Isn't subtracting 10 seconds for each chronoboost a little easier ? | ||
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TanKBreaKeR
Turkey17 Posts
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Jaeger
United States1150 Posts
On October 14 2011 09:17 Kaitlin wrote: Isn't subtracting 10 seconds for each chronoboost a little easier ? No? How many 10s do you subtract from 160 to get 85? | ||
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Conquerer67
United States605 Posts
On October 14 2011 11:32 Jaeger wrote: No? How many 10s do you subtract from 160 to get 85? Uhhh, seven and a half? Tip: 552: It is most economically efficient to maynard all but 16 of your workers when your natural finishes/lands. | ||
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ntvarify
United States331 Posts
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zmansman17
United States2567 Posts
Thank you Thank you Thank you! So mean Awesome Ideas, reminds me why I go to TL in the first place :D | ||
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CodeMajik
Canada19 Posts
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