EPT[!] Incoming Purge - Page 4
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kOre
Canada3642 Posts
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Spekulatius
Germany2413 Posts
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L3g3nd_
New Zealand10461 Posts
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Klystron
United States99 Posts
I find it very difficult to follow a very popular thread with hundreds of replies. After a certain number of posts the thread just turns into a massive wall of text. It would require a lot of work, and probably a huge site overhaul, but I think it would be nice if the forums had the following features. 1) Tree structure: Only posts replying specifically to the OP are initially shown, Replies to replies are hidden in a nested tree structure. This would help keep discussions significantly more organized. 2) Helpful / Not Helpful ordering: With a nested tree structure, you wouldn't really need to sort posts by time, instead you could sort them by how helpful / not helpful they are. Good posts would end up higher up in the list, bad posts would be sent to the end. | ||
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Spekulatius
Germany2413 Posts
There's been a lot of discussion about forum layout, post ordering and thread design in the website feedback section. The admins intentionally dismissed a reddit-style tree structure for a couple of reasons. edit: for a start, check out http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=194835 | ||
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SolidSMD
Belgium408 Posts
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DisAstro
Netherlands22 Posts
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Eleaven
772 Posts
its about time | ||
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
You're going to be challenging Manifesto for most bans if you keep this up long enough. | ||
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Aquafresh
United States824 Posts
Neo: Chill... Zatic: Please. As I was saying, he stumbled upon a solution whereby nearly 99% of all test subjects accepted the program as long as they were given a choice, even if they were only aware of that choice at a near-unconscious level. While this answer functioned, it was obviously fundamentally flawed, thus creating the otherwise-contradictory systemic anomaly that if left unchecked might threaten the system itself. Ergo, those that refused the program, while a minority, if unchecked would constitute an escalating probability of disaster. Neo: This is about the SC2 strategy forum... Zatic: You are here because the SC2 strategy forum is about to be purged, its every living inhabitant terminated, its entire existence eradicated. Neo: Bullshit. Zatic: Denial is the most predictable of all netizen responses. But, rest assured, this will be the sixth time we have purged it, and we have become exceedingly efficient at it. | ||
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TimeSpiral
United States1010 Posts
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iNfeRnaL
Germany1908 Posts
on topic: overdue that someone brings out the hammer! | ||
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zhereon
United States5 Posts
On April 03 2011 22:35 spad12 wrote: While we are on the topic of making the forums a better place for discussion, has anyone ever considered improving the actual forum layout? I find it very difficult to follow a very popular thread with hundreds of replies. After a certain number of posts the thread just turns into a massive wall of text. It would require a lot of work, and probably a huge site overhaul, but I think it would be nice if the forums had the following features. 1) Tree structure: Only posts replying specifically to the OP are initially shown, Replies to replies are hidden in a nested tree structure. This would help keep discussions significantly more organized. 2) Helpful / Not Helpful ordering: With a nested tree structure, you wouldn't really need to sort posts by time, instead you could sort them by how helpful / not helpful they are. Good posts would end up higher up in the list, bad posts would be sent to the end. Given that the "quality" issue at hand is true as described by zatic (I agree, reading TL sometimes hurts my head), most of the massive wall of text would consist of spam and non-contributory posts. Second, those who don't read entire threads and have similar trains of thought at times may think and write similar response posts, in which case there will be a large amount of redundancy in the thread. While I agree with suggestion (2), I disagree with suggestion (1). I personally dislike the tree structure. Maybe it's because I don't have much experience reading that type of thread organization, but I find the tree structure hard to navigate in the forums of Amazon or IMDb for instance. Also, you would think that most posts would be in response to the OP, no? Suggestion (2): This depends strongly on the community's sense of what is helpful or what is "commendable" in the eyes of the general TL community reading the thread. We see systems implemented of this in places such as Youtube comments (thumbs up / thumbs down, where the top two comments might be snarky, witty--read insults), and Amazon Reviews... However, TL is not a democratic community. There's an oligarchy of mods and admins who keep the order. They would thwart the attempts of the community bringing senseless non-contributory posts to the top of the thread. | ||
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zhereon
United States5 Posts
On April 03 2011 05:53 Spekulatius wrote: I have never started a thread on TL but if there was a way to force thread openers to read a) the strategy forum guidelines or b) this announcement here by zatic, just like you have to check a box to accept the general conditions when registering to certain websites, that might help to purge the strategy forum. A lot of new posters open threads that lack information and/or replay and then are (act?) surprised when told that they need to put more effort into it. Again, I don't know if one has some rules displayed before opening a thread or if you can actually do so without ever having seen the rules sections of the strategy forum or the 10 Commandments. Coming from a law student's background, there's no justice in punishing violation of rules that people don't know about even though they aren't lacking some basic diligence. I'd just say, get some way for people to know about the rules and potential punishment, so banning or warning doesn't come unexpected. I agree... The first time I saw the BW Strat forum guidelines was 20 seconds ago... http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=60175 | ||
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THAmarx
65 Posts
the alot zatic... i hope this will work | ||
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Temujin1
Singapore4 Posts
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
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Spekulatius
Germany2413 Posts
On April 04 2011 02:23 Temujin1 wrote: Can you also purge the live report? "[MLG] Dallas Day 3" hit 120 pages with nothing (much) about the games. edit (rephrased): To be fair, most people couldn't even watch the games continuously. | ||
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schimmetje
Netherlands1104 Posts
Glad to hear it though, hope the cleansing fire catches some other threads as well (funny how that works, few months ago I sort of adhered to the generally propagated belief TL could be so strict), but this should be an excellent start. | ||
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Trobot
United States125 Posts
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