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kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
April 03 2011 12:11 GMT
#61
Drunk zatic crackin down on the law! lol at least this will help me from having to sift through all the useless posts ^^
http://www.starcraftmecca.net - Founder
Spekulatius
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2413 Posts
April 03 2011 12:25 GMT
#62
Just look at the automated ban list. Shit just got real
Always smile~
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
April 03 2011 12:47 GMT
#63
TL needs a good whipping, im all for this
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
Klystron
Profile Joined March 2010
United States99 Posts
April 03 2011 13:35 GMT
#64
While we are on the topic of making the forums a better place for discussion, has anyone ever considered improving the actual forum layout?

I find it very difficult to follow a very popular thread with hundreds of replies. After a certain number of posts the thread just turns into a massive wall of text.

It would require a lot of work, and probably a huge site overhaul, but I think it would be nice if the forums had the following features.

1) Tree structure: Only posts replying specifically to the OP are initially shown, Replies to replies are hidden in a nested tree structure. This would help keep discussions significantly more organized.

2) Helpful / Not Helpful ordering: With a nested tree structure, you wouldn't really need to sort posts by time, instead you could sort them by how helpful / not helpful they are. Good posts would end up higher up in the list, bad posts would be sent to the end.
Spekulatius
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2413 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-03 13:47:30
April 03 2011 13:45 GMT
#65
^
There's been a lot of discussion about forum layout, post ordering and thread design in the website feedback section. The admins intentionally dismissed a reddit-style tree structure for a couple of reasons.

edit: for a start, check out http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=194835
Always smile~
SolidSMD
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium408 Posts
April 03 2011 14:06 GMT
#66
Where's that like-button? :> I indeed grow tired of the overflooding of bad threads/replies in the strategy section. Great job!
Working on Starbow!
DisAstro
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands22 Posts
April 03 2011 14:09 GMT
#67
Glad to see this! The Liquid staff is the bomb.
Eleaven
Profile Joined September 2010
772 Posts
April 03 2011 14:09 GMT
#68
Hell..

its about time
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5913 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-03 14:21:41
April 03 2011 14:20 GMT
#69
We should keep Zatic in this state continuously.

You're going to be challenging Manifesto for most bans if you keep this up long enough.
[゚n゚] SSSSssssssSSsss ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Aquafresh
Profile Joined May 2007
United States824 Posts
April 03 2011 16:29 GMT
#70
Zatic: The Brood War Strategy forum was quite naturally perfect; it was a work of art, flawless, sublime. A triumph equaled only by its monumental failure. The inevitability of its doom is apparent to me now as a consequence of the imperfection apparent in every TL poster. Thus I redesigned it, based on your history, to more accurately reflect the varying grotesqueries of your nature. However, I was again frustrated by failure. I have since come to understand that the answer eluded me because it required a lesser mind, or perhaps a mind less bound by the parameters of perfection. Thus the answer was stumbled upon by another: an intuitive program, initially created to investigate certain aspects of the human psyche. If I am the father of the Strategy forum, he would undoubtedly be its mother.

Neo: Chill...

Zatic: Please. As I was saying, he stumbled upon a solution whereby nearly 99% of all test subjects accepted the program as long as they were given a choice, even if they were only aware of that choice at a near-unconscious level. While this answer functioned, it was obviously fundamentally flawed, thus creating the otherwise-contradictory systemic anomaly that if left unchecked might threaten the system itself. Ergo, those that refused the program, while a minority, if unchecked would constitute an escalating probability of disaster.

Neo: This is about the SC2 strategy forum...

Zatic: You are here because the SC2 strategy forum is about to be purged, its every living inhabitant terminated, its entire existence eradicated.

Neo: Bullshit.

Zatic: Denial is the most predictable of all netizen responses. But, rest assured, this will be the sixth time we have purged it, and we have become exceedingly efficient at it.
TimeSpiral
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1010 Posts
April 03 2011 16:59 GMT
#71
I'm very, very excited by this.
[G] Positioning, Formations, and Tactics: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=187892
iNfeRnaL *
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Germany1908 Posts
April 03 2011 17:06 GMT
#72
hahahaha aquafresh xD

on topic:
overdue that someone brings out the hammer!
zhereon
Profile Joined July 2010
United States5 Posts
April 03 2011 17:08 GMT
#73
On April 03 2011 22:35 spad12 wrote:
While we are on the topic of making the forums a better place for discussion, has anyone ever considered improving the actual forum layout?

I find it very difficult to follow a very popular thread with hundreds of replies. After a certain number of posts the thread just turns into a massive wall of text.

It would require a lot of work, and probably a huge site overhaul, but I think it would be nice if the forums had the following features.

1) Tree structure: Only posts replying specifically to the OP are initially shown, Replies to replies are hidden in a nested tree structure. This would help keep discussions significantly more organized.

2) Helpful / Not Helpful ordering: With a nested tree structure, you wouldn't really need to sort posts by time, instead you could sort them by how helpful / not helpful they are. Good posts would end up higher up in the list, bad posts would be sent to the end.


Given that the "quality" issue at hand is true as described by zatic (I agree, reading TL sometimes hurts my head), most of the massive wall of text would consist of spam and non-contributory posts. Second, those who don't read entire threads and have similar trains of thought at times may think and write similar response posts, in which case there will be a large amount of redundancy in the thread.

While I agree with suggestion (2), I disagree with suggestion (1). I personally dislike the tree structure. Maybe it's because I don't have much experience reading that type of thread organization, but I find the tree structure hard to navigate in the forums of Amazon or IMDb for instance. Also, you would think that most posts would be in response to the OP, no?

Suggestion (2): This depends strongly on the community's sense of what is helpful or what is "commendable" in the eyes of the general TL community reading the thread. We see systems implemented of this in places such as Youtube comments (thumbs up / thumbs down, where the top two comments might be snarky, witty--read insults), and Amazon Reviews...

However, TL is not a democratic community. There's an oligarchy of mods and admins who keep the order. They would thwart the attempts of the community bringing senseless non-contributory posts to the top of the thread.
zhereon
Profile Joined July 2010
United States5 Posts
April 03 2011 17:16 GMT
#74
On April 03 2011 05:53 Spekulatius wrote:
I have never started a thread on TL but if there was a way to force thread openers to read a) the strategy forum guidelines or b) this announcement here by zatic, just like you have to check a box to accept the general conditions when registering to certain websites, that might help to purge the strategy forum. A lot of new posters open threads that lack information and/or replay and then are (act?) surprised when told that they need to put more effort into it. Again, I don't know if one has some rules displayed before opening a thread or if you can actually do so without ever having seen the rules sections of the strategy forum or the 10 Commandments.

Coming from a law student's background, there's no justice in punishing violation of rules that people don't know about even though they aren't lacking some basic diligence. I'd just say, get some way for people to know about the rules and potential punishment, so banning or warning doesn't come unexpected.


I agree... The first time I saw the BW Strat forum guidelines was 20 seconds ago...
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=60175
THAmarx
Profile Joined December 2010
65 Posts
April 03 2011 17:18 GMT
#75
i hope i can finnaly find the usefull tips between the major amount of crap!
the alot zatic... i hope this will work
Temujin1
Profile Joined March 2011
Singapore4 Posts
April 03 2011 17:23 GMT
#76
Can you also purge the live report? "[MLG] Dallas Day 3" hit 120 pages with nothing (much) about the games.
"What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies with in us."
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
April 03 2011 17:26 GMT
#77
gl man, you have quite the task ahead of you
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Spekulatius
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2413 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-03 17:43:13
April 03 2011 17:27 GMT
#78
On April 04 2011 02:23 Temujin1 wrote:
Can you also purge the live report? "[MLG] Dallas Day 3" hit 120 pages with nothing (much) about the games.


edit (rephrased): To be fair, most people couldn't even watch the games continuously.
Always smile~
schimmetje
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands1104 Posts
April 03 2011 17:40 GMT
#79
Wait, what, all we needed to do was keep you drunk enough? We should set up a TL mod liquor fund.

Glad to hear it though, hope the cleansing fire catches some other threads as well (funny how that works, few months ago I sort of adhered to the generally propagated belief TL could be so strict), but this should be an excellent start.
Change to MY nostalgia? UNACCEPTABLE! Monkey paaaw!
Trobot
Profile Joined August 2010
United States125 Posts
April 03 2011 17:46 GMT
#80
Scrolling through the ban thread now...this is fantastic. Do you have a Word document open in the background so that you can just copy and paste reasons for the ban so as to result in the most efficient purge possible?
Beware, for I shall correct your grammar even as I read it.
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