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On April 03 2011 03:40 Volka wrote:
If it matters, here are my thoughts:
5. This is so hard to enforce! You may want to provide a guide or a counter-example on how to correctly reply in order to be really helpful.
6. Maybe something good comes out of these threads, is that annoying?
7. Hm, I don't see anything wrong with this. Could even be useful stuff.
9. What's wrong with this? I enjoy theorycrafing sometimes.
I think [5] is more of a catch-22.
Completely disagree with you on [9]. This is a strategy forum for Starcraft 2, what use is it to discuss changes that are will never ever be in the game? Great, you just came up with a change that you think might fix a certain ability, now what? How does that help anyone? What good does it do? If you want to suggest changes then submit them to the suggestions forums on Battle.net
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Can we auto close threads without a replay in the OP? It sucks to see an interesting topic that lacks any kind of replay and all the OP's responses are "No, you're wrong because there are other things going on that no one mentioned until just now".
Could cut out like 90% of the current threads to be honest.
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You say this is going into effect over the next two weeks. Does that mean starting today, tomorrow, one hour from now?
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Awesome I've been hoping for something like this! I hope it goes over well and stays enforced.
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On April 03 2011 04:09 Offhand wrote:
Could cut out like 90% of the current threads to be honest.
Yes it could. As someone who has stopped browsing the strategy part of TL's SC2 boards due to the trolls, idiocy, and epeen contests, this is so very very welcomed. Time to turn this into a quality board again!
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I think that if people only replied to topics they actually like instead of purposely going out of their way to call out the OP for his bad post, that the strategy forum will become a better place significantly.
Then again, this is probably theorycraft. I'll keep an eye out on the forum and see what the purging influences, or if it is just a temporary barrier to a never-ending stream.
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On April 03 2011 04:09 Vod.kaholic wrote:
You say this is going into effect over the next two weeks. Does that mean starting today, tomorrow, one hour from now?
'feel like gambling?
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I <3 you zatic 
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Is the [!] Tag going to become something that the public is expected to know? If there are any other potential 'experiments' that will be conducted it might help to give people a format to know when they're about to be killed.
Also great job. i'm really thankful that the mods still make an effort to help clean up the mess we made.
p.s. are comments saying "thanks for a great guide" frowned upon? Presumably they don't contribute anything to a discussion, but sometimes its nice to see that people are enjoying your work. It might be a small motivator for people to create more quality posts.
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On April 03 2011 04:12 Bair wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2011 04:09 Offhand wrote:
Could cut out like 90% of the current threads to be honest. Yes it could. As someone who has stopped browsing the strategy part of TL's SC2 boards due to the trolls, idiocy, and epeen contests, this is so very very welcomed. Time to turn this into a quality board again!
Ya, I really hope the mods can make the SC2 strategy forum as good as I remember the bw strat forum being.
On April 03 2011 04:38 Hopeless1der wrote:
Is the [!] Tag going to become something that the public is expected to know? If there are any other potential 'experiments' that will be conducted it might help to give people a format to know when they're about to be killed.
Also great job. i'm really thankful that the mods still make an effort to help clean up the mess we made.
p.s. are comments saying "thanks for a great guide" frowned upon? Presumably they don't contribute anything to a discussion, but sometimes its nice to see that people are enjoying your work. It might be a small motivator for people to create more quality posts.
The [!] tag means the thread is a recommended thread to read in the strat forum. Only mods are allowed to add that tag to a thread title, so dont ever do it yourself.
The sc2 strat forum guidelines dont include this tag, but it is included in the bw strat forum guidelines found here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=60175
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zatic I love you. The world deserves some strictness. And with world I mean TL. And with strictness I mean BANHAMMERING.
Don't overdo the drinking though 
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On April 03 2011 03:50 Crushgroove wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2011 03:40 Volka wrote:
If it matters, here are my thoughts:
5. This is so hard to enforce! You may want to provide a guide or a counter-example on how to correctly reply in order to be really helpful.
6. Maybe something good comes out of these threads, is that annoying?
7. Hm, I don't see anything wrong with this. Could even be useful stuff.
9. What's wrong with this? I enjoy theorycrafing sometimes.
As for 9... This is the strategy forum.... Not the theorycrafting forum. 7, then make it into more thorough information that's specificaly applicable? The point is... They want you to take more time and put forth more effort to make more thorough posts. Do it.
You're right yeah. Theorycrafting is not strategy but still should have a place on TL I think. General forum? Dunno.
About 7, I'm sorry I don't get your point perhaps you can elaborate?
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Wish I could halp, but no have report button. I will in a month though 
^ Is happy.
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This sounds like a great idea and a lot of effort on your part. Thanks. While I think I post relevant material, I can do a better job watching and commenting upon replays when they are provided. Ultimately, I'd rather have a community that reacts to actual games played (replays) rather than purely theoretical scenarios.
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Ask others to do work for you ("Need a solid build order/replay TvZ")
I do agree that you shouldnt ask other people to do your job for you but someone who just started playing Sc2 and discovered TL, and is wondering about some strats/build orders for certain race he should just get banned?
Yay for scaring new people away from TL by banning them.
Start theorycrafting and discussing changes to the game
So... We're not supposed to discuss new patches? Just me or does it sound like the strategy forum would be the place where one would discuss changes in a patch and new strategies born from that.
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On April 03 2011 04:56 InsaniaK wrote:
Ask others to do work for you ("Need a solid build order/replay TvZ")
I do agree that you shouldnt ask other people to do your job for you but someone who just started playing Sc2 and discovered TL, and is wondering about some strats/build orders for certain race he should just get banned?
Yay for scaring new people away from TL by banning them.
There is a search function, you know. And new members are explicitly encouraged to use it.
Start theorycrafting and discussing changes to the game
So... We're not supposed to discuss new patches? Just me or does it sound like the strategy forum would be the place where one would discuss changes in a patch and new strategies born from that.
And you can't think of ANY other interpretation of 'changes to the game' of which it might be a good idea to discourage discussion in a strat forum?
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I think that the mods are too nice with the bans on the strategy forum. I support this fully. Bring on the Purge!
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I have never started a thread on TL but if there was a way to force thread openers to read a) the strategy forum guidelines or b) this announcement here by zatic, just like you have to check a box to accept the general conditions when registering to certain websites, that might help to purge the strategy forum. A lot of new posters open threads that lack information and/or replay and then are (act?) surprised when told that they need to put more effort into it. Again, I don't know if one has some rules displayed before opening a thread or if you can actually do so without ever having seen the rules sections of the strategy forum or the 10 Commandments.
Coming from a law student's background, there's no justice in punishing violation of rules that people don't know about even though they aren't lacking some basic diligence. I'd just say, get some way for people to know about the rules and potential punishment, so banning or warning doesn't come unexpected.
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thanks for the purge zatic, gl hf
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I've never seen a purge before, I finally have a reason to look at the strategy sc2 forum now!
Thanks a lot Zatic, and drink lot's of water man.
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