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tofucake
Hyrule19257 Posts
Where it's bad is when someone comes along and says "Hey guys this new build is awesome. You make a rax at 12 and expand at 20 and it's called the 'tofucake build'" ...well no it's just the 1 rax fe. So there are times when it's acceptable to name a build after yourself. | ||
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sleepingdog
Austria6145 Posts
 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=200333 I guess everyone who thinks about writing their 2cents down in a [H]-thread without watching the rep should better think twice from now on. | ||
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Antisocialmunky
United States5913 Posts
On April 08 2011 23:18 tofucake wrote: Sometimes it's not that bad. Take for example iEchoic. The two builds named after him are just descriptions of the build in short form. "iEchoic's TvT build" is much simpler to say than "2-fact 2-port Hellion/Banshee/Viking". Not a problem either, since he completely developed the build from the ground up. Where it's bad is when someone comes along and says "Hey guys this new build is awesome. You make a rax at 12 and expand at 20 and it's called the 'tofucake build'" ...well no it's just the 1 rax fe. So there are times when it's acceptable to name a build after yourself. Well... if I ever see a weird delayed 1 Rax FE, I'm calling it the Tofucake build.  Man, the Closed Thread forum is getting longer and longer lol. | ||
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Selkie
United States530 Posts
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CatNzHat
United States1599 Posts
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zatic
Zurich15366 Posts
On April 08 2011 22:37 Markwerf wrote: Good stuff. I'd like to see this as well: 11. name threads or strategies after yourself. Truly most annoying thing there is. Hey ... Zatic Build is still the best TvP opening out there. | ||
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
On April 09 2011 08:21 zatic wrote: Hey ... Zatic Build is still the best TvP opening out there. if anything, at least it's the oldest strat that Artosis still talks about on gsl lol | ||
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GinNtoniC
Sweden2945 Posts
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RAGEMOAR The Pope
United States216 Posts
On April 03 2011 03:32 Kennigit wrote: And my axe. And my bow | ||
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michaelhasanalias
Korea (South)1231 Posts
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Cider
United States198 Posts
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Cheerio
Ukraine3178 Posts
On April 09 2011 01:41 Selkie wrote: Cheerio, I was hoping that people would read the first page at least. The OP did get edited to boot. I dont get it. Why first page? Why not 3 or 10 or half the page? The point is usually guide threads are pretty pointless and utter waste of time, even if the guide itself is extremely good. 75% posts will be about how good or interesting it is and thanks thanks thanks. Do you really want to force people going through all of that? And what if the guide thread is 40 pages long? The only kind of threads that this rule can apply is discussion threads, and even than not the entire thread but some number of LAST pages to make sure you are following the discussion. | ||
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TimeSpiral
United States1010 Posts
On April 08 2011 22:37 Markwerf wrote: Good stuff. I'd like to see this as well: 11. name threads or strategies after yourself. Truly most annoying thing there is. This suggestion is an insult to the Tasteless build. -_- | ||
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ZasZ.
United States2911 Posts
On April 09 2011 06:50 CatNzHat wrote: I have to agree with everything except theory crafting, as that is an essential part of discussing strategies, theory crafting about game changes is less helpful though. No it's not. Theorycrafting is an easy way to get yourself trapped in circular logic, and in the end nothing is accomplished and a whole lot of people get pissed off. Take for example: Some generic Platinum Zerg posts about how Terran is overpowered and it's impossible to stop Marine Tank pushes. He fails to post a replay and/or analyze any of his games, he just describes how unstoppable this push is and how unbeatable these units are. The first few posters tell him that early baneling speed helps greatly with these kinds of pushes: "NO BANELINGS GET TAKEN OUT BY TANKS" The next few posters tell him that early melee upgrades for Zerglings make them much more efficient against Marine/Tank: "NO STIM MARINES WITH TANK SUPPORT ANNIHILATE ZERGLINGS" The final few posters, before zatic/Saracen bring the pain, tell him to get Mutalisks faster to cut off reinforcements or pick off stray tanks: "ARE U SRS? STIM MARINES RAPE MUTALISKS" Only by uploading his own replays for people to critique and give specific examples, or by people posting evidence of their own can this wee little Platinum Zerg learn that he needs to flank, do runbys, get a good surround, and in general have better tactics. Theorycrafting, unless you are trying to revolutionize the metagame, which happens rarely, is pretty useless. Concrete examples/evidence, most often in the form of replays, are how help/discussion threads become...helpful. | ||
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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
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ZasZ.
United States2911 Posts
On April 12 2011 10:47 Probulous wrote: Um this thread is disappearing into the depths of the strategy forum. It would be ironic except that the threads above it are actually really good. Maybe a sticky so it sits next to Saracen's thread? It was a sticky, I think they unstickied it because of Saracen's thread. No reason really for this since Saracen's thread gives all the details about what will get you BANNED. | ||
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MrTortoise
1388 Posts
On April 03 2011 02:34 ForTheDr3am wrote: Does 8 mean theorycrafting about changes in the game or theorycrafting in general? Start theorycrafting and discussing changes to the game. The answer is both. I can't imagine anyone would ban you for theorycrafting unless you are talking rubbish and just making stuff up. I think the point is that if you post it needs to be substantive You need a replay, it must not be full of bad macro and really obvious failings. You need to describe what you are doing ... if a bit of theorycrafting to explain what you are doing makes sense then it probably wont get banned. But if you just post theory then its useless waffle that an be executed in many different ways simply due to timings. Theorycrafting does not necessitate then screaming imba and wanting changes. However things moved away from the OP .... Theorycrafting can easily cover strategy because it can be used to help with critical path analysis and swapping the order of buildings for instance. I am thinking of arguments for and against building rax with no addons vs building addons early. The point is that if you do theorycraft something like this you need DATA to back it up adn the real problem with data is getting significant sample sizes. I think the point is that if you are doing a theorycraft post then you are probably not making a good contribution because there is a lot more you need to include to make it useful to other people - really you are hoping someone else will put in the work testing the theory. | ||
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Strategos
Canada132 Posts
Also seriously? "Typing like a 14 year old girl" are you joking? I'm not sure whether I should be outraged by the ridiculous imposition you put on people to write like shakespeare or a English PHD (specially when considering for a fact a good number of TL'ers do not speak english as their first language) or the blatant sexism/ignorance in the assumption. I ask again, seriously? This is internet Nazism and I definitely do not support this, and encourage other TL'ers to do so as well. This is slipper slippery slope that TL is going, I hope the site that I love and hold dear will be what it has always been, an open forum where the community can discuss starcraft without being harassed by cyber bullies and dictators. | ||
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zatic
Zurich15366 Posts
On April 13 2011 19:00 Strategos wrote: I'm sorry while i understand you are trying to improve the content of quality i must say this is reminds of of extremist authoritarianism, we come to TL to discuss and chat why cant we post our thoughts if we don't "watch the replay" cant we still have thoughts regarding the topic? No you can't. That would be pretty insulting towards the OP who made an effort to create a thread and post a replay. Also seriously? "Typing like a 14 year old girl" are you joking? I'm not sure whether I should be outraged by the ridiculous imposition you put on people to write like shakespeare or a English PHD (specially when considering for a fact a good number of TL'ers do not speak english as their first language) or the blatant sexism/ignorance in the assumption. I ask again, seriously? All you need to do is type in proper English. You seem to have no problem with that and it's certainly not too much to ask of anyone. | ||
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Cibron
Sweden253 Posts
And yes TL posters should use proper language and formulation. "Typing like 14 year old girls" might not be the best way to put it though  However most moderation I've seen on TL is actually really good (except when you warn me for trolling the balance threads TT ...JK) | ||
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