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SecretA5DC
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)225 Posts
March 27 2011 17:26 GMT
#41
Who cares about naming things, it's not like Griffith goes into other people's threads and blatantly tells Terrans to try out his "Trademark" Strat etc with his name all over it.

This is a great strat, and combined with the Raven PDD Tactic on the other thread, we might actually see more of those in action late game TvZ.
emythrel
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom2599 Posts
March 27 2011 17:34 GMT
#42
On March 27 2011 03:07 Black Gun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 02:57 SecretA5DC wrote:
Yo, umm do you just box the hellions and right click the Thors? Is there some kind of way to "Attack-follow" the thors?

just rightclick the hellions on the thors, they will follow them and mimic all the orders you give the thors. if you a-move the thors then, the hellions will follow their respective thor using the "a-move-routine".


They don't mimic, but if you a move the thor, when it stops to fire so do the hellions, essentially meaning they will attack anything that comes in range as they are stopped.... its as good as a-moving them except they dont go running off on their own!
When there is nothing left to lose but your dignity, it is already gone.
The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
March 30 2011 21:02 GMT
#43
On March 28 2011 01:19 Markwerf wrote:
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On March 28 2011 01:13 The Final Boss wrote:
I just don't understand why people have to be negative. Why should it matter if he sticks his name on it? And sure it's a simple thing to do, but it was an idea that he presented. That's not something new to the world, I mean that's what people do. You come up with an idea, you get to name it. What's so wrong with that? Personally I'd prefer if he named it things like the Zerg AIDS Virus because that name makes me giggle, but hell, he can name it whatever he wants.


It's just obnoxious to name these techniques after yourself right away. It is presumptuous and narcistic. It's fine if a certain technique gets named after a player after a while by others, like Maynarding, but naming them like Griffith does is annoying.

Note that in most sciences it is quite rare for a discoverer to name something after themselves.. Other people do that later AFTER the use of the discovery has been established and usually years or decadeds after the discovery itself.


Everyone in this world who has ever accomplished anything was at the very least a little narcissistic. I really don't see any problem with it. Why does it honestly matter what it's called as long as it works? He's contributing more then you, and personally I see the world as a meritocracy; so by that logic he can call it whatever he wants as he has more merit then you.

It really shouldn't bother you, people just like to complain a lot about stuff that really doesn't affect them for the sake of complaining. If it really bothers you that much just ignore everything Griffith posts.
OmNomSpy
Profile Joined August 2010
United States68 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-30 21:24:01
March 30 2011 21:12 GMT
#44
On March 31 2011 06:02 The Final Boss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 01:19 Markwerf wrote:
On March 28 2011 01:13 The Final Boss wrote:
I just don't understand why people have to be negative. Why should it matter if he sticks his name on it? And sure it's a simple thing to do, but it was an idea that he presented. That's not something new to the world, I mean that's what people do. You come up with an idea, you get to name it. What's so wrong with that? Personally I'd prefer if he named it things like the Zerg AIDS Virus because that name makes me giggle, but hell, he can name it whatever he wants.


It's just obnoxious to name these techniques after yourself right away. It is presumptuous and narcistic. It's fine if a certain technique gets named after a player after a while by others, like Maynarding, but naming them like Griffith does is annoying.

Note that in most sciences it is quite rare for a discoverer to name something after themselves.. Other people do that later AFTER the use of the discovery has been established and usually years or decadeds after the discovery itself.


Everyone in this world who has ever accomplished anything was at the very least a little narcissistic. I really don't see any problem with it. Why does it honestly matter what it's called as long as it works? He's contributing more then you, and personally I see the world as a meritocracy; so by that logic he can call it whatever he wants as he has more merit then you.

It really shouldn't bother you, people just like to complain a lot about stuff that really doesn't affect them for the sake of complaining. If it really bothers you that much just ignore everything Griffith posts.


Yes, everyone on earth is a little narcissistic, but every now and then someone is outrageously narcissistic. Everyone on earth can be a little rude, but occasionally there's a Snooki.

Since there is at least one new post every day called "XXX's XvX build," people on the forums are fed up with the self-naming.

That being said the OP is very nice; this hellion trick will keep the Thors safe against Broodlords until Infestors are out.

Seriously though, as others have mentioned Einstein didn't call it "Einstein's Theory of Relativity." Oh god... did I just compare Griffith to Einstein...?
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10322 Posts
June 22 2011 18:24 GMT
#45
Would like to ask a question

What is the significance of having your Hellions follow your Thors rather than just controlling them separately?

Is it just for the convenience that the Hellions will do what your Thors do, and so you only need to control the Thors, and so that they're both synced up better? (So if you want to retreat the Thors, the Hellions automatically retreat).
Another benefit I can think of is that if you use 1 control group and attack the Broodlords with the Thors, the Hellions won't run forward and try to hit other ground units, but will instead stick with the Thors and attack the broodlings. But I don't use 1 control group anyways.

These are the only benefits I can think of, am I missing something or is that it?
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rebotfc
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom144 Posts
June 22 2011 18:36 GMT
#46
Yes Yoshi generally that is it, however be careful because if you have your hellions following your thors and he either fungals or baneling bombs you, it will wipe out your hellions and slings or broodlings with wreck the thors.

Therefore it is useful to have the hellions on another control group, hold them back and let the thors take the spread funalgs or banelings, and then send the hellions in, following the thors.
Synystyr
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1446 Posts
June 22 2011 18:42 GMT
#47
Pretty much what Rebot said. I use that method personally....hellions are rallied to and follow the Thors, while I have them on a separate hotkey as well to micro them during an engagement so I do not lose them accidentally.
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Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
June 22 2011 22:15 GMT
#48
You know, as a zerg player I've been thinking about this build. It has a lot of merit to it. It'd be nice if someone re explored it now that the ghost cost has been changed. As a Zerg I'd be more concerned by Hellion/Thor/Marine/Medivac/Ghost than MMTGViking
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Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10322 Posts
June 24 2011 00:57 GMT
#49
Yeah, Ghost/Thor owns BLs much harder than Vikings, because the air battle is something completely different than what Mech is xD

I usually trickle in MM from the 2 rax i have since the start of the game, so it is easy to start pumping ghosts from those and go more hellion heavy and tone down the tank/thor if i need gas.
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