[G] Griffith's Hellion/Thors vs Blords - Page 2

On March 26 2011 23:56 Griffith` wrote:
Hi TL,

This is a little trick/unit-comp I recently discovered that can make thors actually cost-effective against blords. It is NOT micro-intensive and about as easy as magic box to execute.



Essentially what you do is order a small group of blue flame hellions to follow your thors so broodlings get 2 shotted. Remember that hellions use an AOE HITSCAN weapon so they will never over kill broodlings. The main source of damage from blords come from broodlings, not broodlords. By insta-roasting the broodlings, you will reduce blord damage by almost 50% and your thors AI won't get screwed up trying to target the broodlings as they get roasted so quickly, of course it never hurts to target fire the blords. Best of all, this means you only need ONE set of mech upgrades. Thors out range blords, so blords will never be able to kite thors.

Tests:

5 Blords cost 1500/1250. 5Thors + 4 Hellions cost (1900/1000). IE Terran's composition costs 400 more minerals but 250 less gas, which IMO is more than a fair trade late game.

BEFORE any upgrades (Both Terran/Zerg). 0/0 mech upgrades versus 0/0/0, 0/0 zerg.

5Thors + 4 Hellions beats 5 Blords with 2 thors left over, with low HP.
Without the hellions, 3 Blords will survive.

However, late game zerg rarely gets air armor. So the typical late game scenario would look something like: 3/3 Thors against 3/0/3, 2/0 Zerg.

5Thors + 4 Hellions beats 5 Blords with 3-4 thors left over with more than half HP.
Without the Hellions, you will have 1 thor left with about 50 hp.

Late-game this trick will roflstomp blords. Not - saying that you won't need vikings, Vikings will ALWAYS help, but this "trick" will just give your thors more viability should you be caught off-guard.

On March 27 2011 09:41 Antisocialmunky wrote:
You really should stop naming stuff after yourself. And even without this, a blue flame bath works pretty good. Additionally its helpful if you use the hellions to push forward so the the broodlords will start throwing at them. :\ Keeps infestors/lings/ultras and stuff away as well (wall of light units FTW).

How well does Thor/Hellion actually work on something like Tal Darim? I would imagine it gets crushed by a mass ultra late game since it the map is not funnelly.

On March 27 2011 07:39 Spacekyod wrote:


Don't you think it's a tad too much that he tries to tag his name onto everything he "discovers"?

Especially something as simple as telling one unit to follow another. You didn't see the guy who found out how to make viking flowers again try and slather his name all over it.

On March 27 2011 23:00 TheAwesomeAll wrote:

Who cares? he comes up with useful tricks and strats and shares them with us. I couldnt care less about the name he gives it. Btw it is pretty normal to give your nick to the strat you invented(synystyr iEchoic stimmed probe etc.)
edit: wasnt there a progamer mentioned on the sotg whoo did your 4OC build, saying it was never done before???

On March 28 2011 00:07 Binabik wrote:
If your opponent has enough gas to support both, mutas AND broodlords, you did something wrong.

But keeping Marines near to your Helions+Thors would kill them instantly I guess.

On March 28 2011 01:13 The Final Boss wrote:
I just don't understand why people have to be negative. Why should it matter if he sticks his name on it? And sure it's a simple thing to do, but it was an idea that he presented. That's not something new to the world, I mean that's what people do. You come up with an idea, you get to name it. What's so wrong with that? Personally I'd prefer if he named it things like the Zerg AIDS Virus because that name makes me giggle, but hell, he can name it whatever he wants.