[H] 3 roach+speedling all-in PvZ - Page 33

On February 04 2011 01:06 Anwyn wrote:
I think i found a way to stop this without canons and with an opening that is pretty much standart.

Im a 3100~ protoss player for wathever is worth.

9 Pylon and scout
12 Gateway
15 Gas
16 Pylon
17 Cyber

Then when minerals allow it get another gateway and then the other gas, when the core is finished, start producing non stop stalkers with chronobust and add another gateway, and start warpgates but dont use chrono on it. When you first stalker is out, you can try to kill his overlord or/and the first 2 lings that are used to chase your scouting probe. By the time his roaches get to your ramp, you probably have 3 salkers plus 2 more building, its important to block yourself complety, so the lings can enter. After this, if they cant destroy your wall is GG.

Hope it helps.

On February 04 2011 01:07 Amber[LighT] wrote:


A replay would probably be more worthwhile to post than your rank...

"This is impossible to stop."
"I have never cried imbalance... but.. what the hell, come on."
"if u have to blindly forge and put cannons on top of ur ramp there is something wrong with the matchup."

"This is the last person i expected to see write this sort of thread.."
"Wait is this a joke or something? This is a standard 5RR, except he cut some roaches and added more lings..."
"He obviously isn't looking for help, he's looking for sympathy.
Just let the thread die, every suggestion has already been made."

"ur not very high rated are u? t.t"
"some of u must not watch the replays very carefully."
"some of u guys... just give unbelievable advice. like none of it would work in time to stop this. "
"im not being high and mighty. im just good enough at the game to know what im talking about."
"im sorry but a lot of u are completely clueless, like absolutely clueless. u play this guy and u would get absolutely raped to pieces yet u say how easy this is to stop, lol"
"9 out of 10 suggestions have been absolutely retarded"
"did u even read the chat? the guy talking about how much he wins?"
"Uh, the entire point of the thread was me asking for help. And no, no I haven't. I actually haven't insulted anyone. Except for you, you're a tool."

I also have done very little bitching or moaning, pretty much only one moan and it was in the OP.

anyways it's stoppable yes. but it's ridiculously ridiculously powerful.

Not to offend but I expected better manners from someone with a liquid tag

where did I have bad manners?

god, why are people so full of shit. how dare i post this and then argue a position. why am i getting so much shit for this from random people who probably are terrible at the game anyways

On February 03 2011 11:37 travis wrote:


if i chronoboosted sentries before i saw the roaches yeah that'd work, but i have to be chronoboosting them every time instead of warpgate. after playing vs it some more I think it's quite easy to hold if you scout it (which I now know to do), then just get a 2nd gate blocking ur ramp (so gate/core/gate wall), then start chronoboosting stalkers after ur sentry. quite an easy hold if u do that

I absolutely do not think forge + cannons are optimal at all, I think its a very poor way to respond.

On February 04 2011 03:39 travis wrote:
i'll take my "bad attitude" and stop posting on the strategy forums with it, everyone will be better off that way. I didn't want to tiptoe around a bunch of clueless people. and guess what, that's not an insult, it's just the truth. there's a reason very few top players bother posting here and it's because they don't want to argue with a bunch of clueless people, many of whom want to fight about shit that doesn't even have to do with the game.

im serious, too. im not gonna post in the strategy forum anymore. that way I won't be rude to people who 1.) were completely wrong and 2.) were actually rude to me.

goodbye

On February 04 2011 03:39 travis wrote:
i'll take my "bad attitude" and stop posting on the strategy forums with it, everyone will be better off that way. I didn't want to tiptoe around a bunch of clueless people. and guess what, that's not an insult, it's just the truth. there's a reason very few top players bother posting here and it's because they don't want to argue with a bunch of clueless people, many of whom want to fight about shit that doesn't even have to do with the game.

im serious, too. im not gonna post in the strategy forum anymore. that way I won't be rude to people who 1.) were completely wrong and 2.) were actually rude to me.

goodbye

On February 04 2011 03:39 travis wrote:
I didn't want to tiptoe around a bunch of clueless people. and guess what, that's not an insult,

On February 04 2011 03:55 roymarthyup wrote:
i think the best way to do this strategy is to proxy the roach warren with a proxy hatch which costs 75 minerals


to make up for the 75 mineral loss and still allow you to get those first quick 2 zerglings after the pool to deny scouting, you put 2 drones on gas instead of 3 which pays for the lost 75 minerals. this will give you slightly slower lingspeed but it wont matter thaat much

next, after you start lingspeed you put 3 drones on gas until you have 50gas then you take all drones off gas and put on minerals

instead of getting 3 roaches, you only get 2 roaches. thats all you really need because you combine those 2 roaches with the 2 original lings to attack the blocking zealot


with this strategy you should be knocking on the protoss door with 2 roaches+2lings (instead of 3+2lings) at 5 and you should be knocking on the protoss door with 2 roaches + 20 speedlings (instead of 3 roaches + 20 speedlings) at 5:30

this rush is pretty much exactly as powerful as the original build, but you proxy the warren making it unscoutable




the real true benefit of the warren in this build is it allows the 2 original larva to be turned into 4food of fighting units instead of 2food, and those fighting units are ranged and kill zealots well

On February 04 2011 03:39 travis wrote:
i'll take my "bad attitude" and stop posting on the strategy forums with it, everyone will be better off that way. I didn't want to tiptoe around a bunch of clueless people. and guess what, that's not an insult, it's just the truth. there's a reason very few top players bother posting here and it's because they don't want to argue with a bunch of clueless people, many of whom want to fight about shit that doesn't even have to do with the game.

im serious, too. im not gonna post in the strategy forum anymore. that way I won't be rude to people who 1.) were completely wrong and 2.) were actually rude to me.

goodbye

On February 04 2011 02:16 Sajuuk7 wrote:
This game was facepalm from the beginning.
Protoss: "I wonder if you have the balls to rush me again."
Zerg: "I wonder if you have the balls to only build one gateway and no cannons."



5.5 Minute Mark: 16 Speedlings, 3 Roaches VS 1 Zealot, 2 Sentries
In the future, take a deep breath and watch the replay yourself with an open mind.
You could have chrono'd more units, or built a cannon, or built another gateway sooner, or had better scouting, etc, etc.

In other news:
Your bad manners and negativity have made this thread long and bitter.
You:

TL-goers:

Your replies:

Almost every post you wrote was incredibly negative, derogatory, and sometimes even straight up lies:

And then you have the audacity to try to end the thread with:


This sounds just like the kind of stuff that is on the battlenet forums everyday...

TL-Goer:

Your reply back:

You again... contradicting yourself some more:


Hey, TL Mods, I hope you read this and think twice about who has a TL tag, and about who should get a warning/ban/whatever: the inciter of flame, or people caught in fire.

EDIT: P.S. Please lock this thread.