Mech Terran Discussion - Page 4

On January 28 2011 16:13 heyyouyesyou wrote:


No problem.
You might also want to make supply depot walls in your natural on the more open maps like xelnaga for your tanks to hide behind.

On January 29 2011 01:12 Garmer wrote:
i don't even understand, why most people go for a crazy fast exp, before 5 min, under that time you are still saturating your main, i think it's silly to go fast with fe(at least for terran), best time for expand is 6-7 minute for terran, try it....

On January 29 2011 01:12 Garmer wrote:
i don't even understand, why most people go for a crazy fast exp, before 5 min, under that time you are still saturating your main, i think it's silly to go fast with fe(at least for terran), best time for expand is 6-7 minute for terran, try it....

On January 29 2011 01:29 emidanRKO wrote:
I'm a strrong believer that mech is the future of the TvP matchup. I am not comfortable with mech in TvZ as my control is pretty decent with marine/tank anyway.

TvP mech @ 2700 masters:

http://www.mediafire.com/?mju1l4xbhaahpy1
http://www.mediafire.com/?u3foo4xg33dj1mx
http://www.mediafire.com/?4zcupw8ithth9q8

sorry in some of these games i kinda asked my opponent some dumb questions :p I was actually looking for a good answer but yea...

On January 29 2011 01:47 Sapphire.lux wrote:

Liked your game on shakuras. You can build more turrets around your bases with the excess minerals to stop possible void rays/ warp prism back stabs.

On January 28 2011 08:50 avilo wrote:
I'm glad more people are meching again. After I re-learned bio+viking TvP, the last 2 weeks I decided to bite the bullet and re-learn the mech style that I wrote a guide for ages ago, but more brood war style with a heavier emphasis on hellions, and it's working pretty damn well so far.

In beta, I mostly did mass tank with a few hellions every now and then, and vikings. But that was when tanks did their brood war damage so you could play brood war mass tank style and max out with almost all tanks + some vikings for air + ghosts.

Now though, a heavier hellion mech vs P definitely is viable. Lots of tanks + hellions, with reactored vikings for collosus/voids, and as the game goes on, adding in ghosts.

You do need marines for the entire early game, either off of a reactored barracks or 2 rax, but you eventually stop producing them for lots of hellions, or you can decide to keep constantly producing them off of a reactored barracks, at least for a while into mid-game. Then you don't need them after that, and you don't have to invest into stim/infantry upgrades.

I would keep playing mech! You can definitely mech TvT, in TvP a lot of new mech builds are popping up, as well as older ones from beta that are more refined, and TvZ mech is still viable, though I think in TvZ biomech with 3/3 bio + 3/0 tanks/thors is the standard and strongest possible play.

One thing I would advise if you are meching a lot in TvP - be careful when you build thors, if ever. You'll become really vulnerable to carrier switches if you make thors instead of vikings. And vs mass immortals...I don't think there's really a reason to get thors vs that. I do not really understand the thought process some players lately have had when they get 250 mm cannon/thors vs immortals.

Unless there is a critical mass of thors that can be reached that even demolishs gateway+immortals, if so then that is probably why.

Though, I can understand thors if they are massing phoenix or voids, or to beefen up a max ground vs ground army. In those cases, thors are awesome. But ghostmech is always better than adding in thors/250 vs mass immortals/templar imo.

And 2 vikings cost the same as 1 thor, the difference being if the protoss somehow stalls to carriers, an accumulated viking force can be there for carriers, whereas thors are terrible versus carriers, as well as hard to move around with your main army vs ground+carriers.

On January 29 2011 09:14 bole wrote:
Hey m8 who play terran try to use SIEGE TANKS + HELLIONS agenst protoss and also afective agenst zerg... Mass up siege tanks and mass hellions...(mass meens 10 and more) you will devestate protoss or zerg (zerglings and beinglings) try this mecha strategy ... alos agenst zerg try build some thors as well (zerg can go on mutas.)

one more thing be cerfull if toss go air.... that is only cance to win agenst seige + hellions...but try this strategy its great...

On January 28 2011 02:31 Boundless wrote:

No, it's definitely the right word. Right now the TvP and TvZ metagame has pretty much reduced to MMM and marine medivac tank, respectively. Sure, people try to mech on the ladder, but the world's top players simply don't do it.

The metagame for T right now has really stagnated, and I've been saying this for quite a while. I see threads all over the place like MrBitter's Zerg tutorials, the gosucoaching podcasts where they talk almost exclusively about zerg play, and other things that point to the zerg metagame evolving and updating itself to deal with the latest things that P and T are throwing around.

For crying out loud, after MKP made it to the gsl finals on pure cheese and 2rax, the top foreign and Korean zergs spent entire days finding the optimum response to it..... Together. I don't see any T conferences on how to play against phoenix/colossus or good timings to hit against a fast zerg third with early baneling speed.

Every T thread on TL that I see (with the exception of this one) is full of whiners that moan about P lategame and mutas being overpowered. Ridiculous stuff.

The metagame needs to go somewhere, or we'll be seeing 2rax scv allins forever. I dont think we want that, do we?

On January 29 2011 01:54 Dente wrote:
This is how awesome mech is at top level:

http://www.sc2rep.com/replays/(T)mouzStrelok_vs_(P)nAni_lost_temple_sc2rep_com_20110110/4305

http://www.sc2rep.com/replays/()_vs_()__sc2rep_com_20110116/4503

Strelok and goody.