I think one thing that's fairly obvious but probably worth noting in the flanking section is how flanking will usually create a concave for you, which is double valuable since it gives you good formation and limits his response.

TimeSpiral

United States1010 Posts

January 28 2011 19:22 GMT

#42

On January 29 2011 04:05 TeH_Murmur wrote:
I think one thing that's fairly obvious but probably worth noting in the flanking section is how flanking will usually create a concave for you, which is double valuable since it gives you good formation and limits his response.

That's a great point.

Formation transitions was not really covered at all, huh? Thanks!

EviL.sc

Portugal82 Posts

January 28 2011 19:34 GMT

#43

Wow this is a great post you analyzed that pretty damn greatly, and the pics also help alot.

TimeSpiral

United States1010 Posts

January 28 2011 20:21 GMT

#44

Hey, mods,

How can I change the title of this thread? I feel it is a little more comprehensive than I originally labeled it.

Emoguycrycry

9 Posts

January 28 2011 20:59 GMT

#45

If anybody is seeking practice utilizing unit formations you should give marine arena a try. The mechanics of that game can really help give you a feel for how important a good formation really is and how to use the tactics in the op effectively

TimeSpiral

United States1010 Posts

January 29 2011 16:21 GMT

#46

I've never heard of that. Do you find it in custom games?

Bleak

Turkey3059 Posts

January 29 2011 16:23 GMT

#47

Awesome thread, I've tried some pincer movements in 2v2s and the difference is gigantic, you can even take out a immortal heavy army with mass roach and proper flanking.

TimeSpiral

United States1010 Posts

January 30 2011 20:27 GMT

#48

Thanks for the input, Bleak!

I posted this to hopefully broaden some of the tactical formations used in combat. As stated in the OP the most common, BY FAR is the Charge (Full frontal assault).

Did you try the Pincer after reading the article, or is that just something you did regularly?

I encourage you reading the OP who have not tried some of these tactical formations to give it a shot. They are time tested military tactics.

OverZero

United States271 Posts

January 30 2011 21:04 GMT

#49

Woah!!! Great post!!!

This should definitely find a home on liquipedia!!

This plays a huge role in terms of ZvT with ling surrounds and MMM balls.

TimeSpiral

United States1010 Posts

January 31 2011 14:37 GMT

#50

On January 31 2011 06:04 OverZero wrote:
Woah!!! Great post!!!

This should definitely find a home on liquipedia!!

This plays a huge role in terms of ZvT with ling surrounds and MMM balls.

I wonder how often Liquipedia is used as a resource for things like this. Since threads get buried so quickly here maybe it would be better if I converted this to a wiki article.

Bleak

Turkey3059 Posts

January 31 2011 14:43 GMT

#51

On January 31 2011 05:27 TimeSpiral wrote:
Thanks for the input, Bleak!

I posted this to hopefully broaden some of the tactical formations used in combat. As stated in the OP the most common, BY FAR is the Charge (Full frontal assault).

Did you try the Pincer after reading the article, or is that just something you did regularly?

I encourage you reading the OP who have not tried some of these tactical formations to give it a shot. They are time tested military tactics.

I've tried Pincer some time ago, when I was playin 2v2 with a buddy. We were getting attacked and I thought going for pincer could help. It definitely did: We split up our forces in the map Tempest, and pincered them from our natural expansions. their army just melt and we won.

I use it whenever I can in 2v2s, but not so much in 1v1 because I forget, or maps are quite narrow.

TimeSpiral

United States1010 Posts

March 10 2011 22:22 GMT

#52

^ bump to ask the community a question

QUESTION: If I were to make this post, and expand on it, for Liquipedia, should I use the existing "Unit Positioning" article, which is quite lacking, or should I create a new one?

Existing Liquipedia article: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Unit_Positioning

I'm leaning towards a new one simply because the title "Unit Positioning" does not really cover the "Tactics and Analysis" portion of what I want to include in the article. If I can change the title, or get help from a mod, then that might be the best bet.

Saracen

United States5139 Posts

March 10 2011 22:28 GMT

#53

On January 29 2011 05:21 TimeSpiral wrote:
Hey, mods,

How can I change the title of this thread? I feel it is a little more comprehensive than I originally labeled it.

I can change it for you. What would you like it to be called?

Great thread by the way. Very useful for newer players.

Grapefruit

Germany439 Posts

March 10 2011 23:17 GMT

#54

Wow, I just nerdgasm'd.

Thanks for the amazing work.

Moa

United States790 Posts

March 11 2011 00:05 GMT

#55

It is hard to emphasize how strong flanking is against concaves because you can engage your opponents forces one to two units at a time with larger groups. I like this post, it is well written and touches on the often ignored value of tactics within starcraft.

Mofisto

United Kingdom585 Posts

March 11 2011 00:10 GMT

#56

Definitely a great thread mate. Ive put it in my recommended threads thread

MGcHarger

Canada129 Posts

March 11 2011 00:17 GMT

#57

Well, i was just wondering when i was going to see another super informative topic on the forums. Since most of people just claim about balance issues and dont STOP and think about that their post is irrational.
Thanks for this man, really good post. Wish to see more of them coming.

TNine

United States46 Posts

March 11 2011 01:06 GMT

#58

As interested as i was by the formations, i think one of the really cool things is the supply line. More aggressive armies have longer supply lines that are less easily supported. I have often seen streams of marines or tanks moving across the field, or a single collosus walking across with little or no support. Perfect targets for sniping, no? And yet i don't see as much of that as i would like.