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n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
January 04 2013 18:29 GMT
#14641
Been away for a month, anyone had a brilliant breakthrough in TvZ? Any development? How's the meta?

Especially if there's any T who upon watching the loading goes "Zerg - awesome!", would gladly appreciate his input.
memcpy
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States459 Posts
January 05 2013 04:34 GMT
#14642
Why don't we see any muta play in tournament zvzs? It's just about all I see on ladder in masters/gm.
dynwar7
Profile Joined May 2011
1983 Posts
January 05 2013 13:04 GMT
#14643
May be a stupid question, but ALL pros look at the minimap VERY often right?

Its just...when I see them on streams.....I actually quite rarely see them looking at the minimap
Regarding the imbalance, hilarious to see Zergs defending themselves....
Rassy
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2308 Posts
January 05 2013 15:17 GMT
#14644
Nerchio vs violet
Watching it on esl stream right now.
Both players have muta ling (a ton of mutas, 20+) and both players went for the attack upgrade on mutas,
nerchio went to 2-0 and violet to 1-0
Why do the players go for attack upgrades, where the armour upgrades not way better in muta vs muta?
rd
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2586 Posts
January 05 2013 16:57 GMT
#14645
On January 05 2013 22:04 dynwar7 wrote:
May be a stupid question, but ALL pros look at the minimap VERY often right?

Its just...when I see them on streams.....I actually quite rarely see them looking at the minimap


Different pros have different preferences; some use their peripheral vision, others actively divide their attention around the screen. Monitor size also makes a difference when it comes to how clear the minimap is within peripheral vision. Either way, the minimap is on all of their minds and they are very aware (most of the time) of what's going on.
glad.
Profile Joined December 2012
7 Posts
January 05 2013 22:19 GMT
#14646
Hi all,

As a Zerg, if I'm playing against a Protoss who goes Nexus first AND pylon blocks my natural, how should I punish him for this? I'm pretty sure this is excessively greedy. If I send 6 lings to his base, then it takes me forever to get my hatch up - is that generally what I should do anyway? Thanks

Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-06 01:40:55
January 06 2013 01:34 GMT
#14647
On January 05 2013 22:04 dynwar7 wrote:
May be a stupid question, but ALL pros look at the minimap VERY often right?

Its just...when I see them on streams.....I actually quite rarely see them looking at the minimap


It's just periferall vision. Whenever I see something red on the minimap my eyes instantly jump to it. For people who arent trained to do that already, it helps to actively check the minimap often to get into the habit of paying attention to that area of screen.

On January 05 2013 03:15 Tzela wrote:
is there a way to search within only a specific thread? the search function is giving me results from every thread, but i really want a way to sort through some of the bigger threads easily (the helpme threads in particular). im sure this questions been asked before but due to the the nature of the question, well, yea....


Do a content search for what you are looking for, limit it to the subforum the thread is in, and it should list all recent posts matching search criteria as the post number under the thread link.

On January 06 2013 07:19 glad. wrote:
Hi all,

As a Zerg, if I'm playing against a Protoss who goes Nexus first AND pylon blocks my natural, how should I punish him for this? I'm pretty sure this is excessively greedy. If I send 6 lings to his base, then it takes me forever to get my hatch up - is that generally what I should do anyway? Thanks



You can send the lings to his base and expand to the 3rd simultaneously, or leave 2 and send 4 depending on how many you make. The goal of the lings isn't to kill him since you won't have enough, but rather stay in the main and be annoying and deny as much mining time as possible.
MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
January 06 2013 03:59 GMT
#14648
Hello guys, im not sure to post this but the general SC2 forum has no "Simple questions, simple answers thread" so i thought ill just post here and hope somebody sees this.


About 1-2 years ago there was a thread on TL.net where someone, working as someone quite important at a very big company, posted screenshots of running starcraft (not sure if it was sc2 or sc1) on like 16 huge monitors in some kind of control room. Like 3x4 meters or so. and it was all one big image, not 16 identical ones.

Please if someone remembers that thread. Give me a link ! I literally spent about 1 hour trying to find it with TL.net search
https://www.twitch.tv/MasterReY/ ~ Biggest Reach fan on TL.net (Don't even dare to mention LR now) ~ R.I.P Violet ~ Developer of SCRChart
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HelioSeven
Profile Joined February 2012
United States193 Posts
January 06 2013 13:44 GMT
#14649
On January 06 2013 07:19 glad. wrote:
Hi all,

As a Zerg, if I'm playing against a Protoss who goes Nexus first AND pylon blocks my natural, how should I punish him for this? I'm pretty sure this is excessively greedy. If I send 6 lings to his base, then it takes me forever to get my hatch up - is that generally what I should do anyway? Thanks



You can expand to the third, they shouldn't be able to pylon block you there and finish their wall on most maps against 14 pool six ling push. Obviously bigger maps that can be a problem.

Always a possibility is fast gas, since you can always abuse tech advantage against a nexus first. Banelings, roaches, hell, even 1 base nydus is always an option as long as you deny the probe and/or zealot scout and clear the pylons in a timely enough fashion to not make your opponent suspicious. Phoenix scout, which is the fastest t2 scout for Protoss that I know of out of an FFE, is much slower than any kind of 1 base play, takes way to much time building a gasless 2-base economy to have any kind of comparable tech. Or, if the sort of the fancies you, you can always pool the gas for a 2-base spire play or some such. Many things you can do with fast gas.
If I smite you, have you been smitten?
Kasu
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom345 Posts
January 06 2013 15:42 GMT
#14650
What is going on with Polt? Will it affect his SC2 career?
andrewb138
Profile Joined January 2013
United States1 Post
January 06 2013 23:09 GMT
#14651
On January 26 2011 18:50 Ulfsark wrote:
I got your back zatic

As Zerg, where should I send my first overlord?


Opposite direction of your natural!:D
CommanderS
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany53 Posts
January 06 2013 23:27 GMT
#14652
When Stephano moves his units somewhere, it often occurs that one half of them stand there in the middle and the other half runs around them in circles. How and why does he do that?
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
January 07 2013 03:36 GMT
#14653
On January 07 2013 08:27 CommanderS wrote:
When Stephano moves his units somewhere, it often occurs that one half of them stand there in the middle and the other half runs around them in circles. How and why does he do that?


Not sure what you're talking about, can you link a VoD?

Just a guess, is it lings following roaches? If so it's because they move at different speeds but he wants to keep them together, so he moves just the roaches while the lings are following a roach (select all and right click to a unit).
CommanderS
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany53 Posts
January 07 2013 12:55 GMT
#14654
On January 07 2013 12:36 Najda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 08:27 CommanderS wrote:
When Stephano moves his units somewhere, it often occurs that one half of them stand there in the middle and the other half runs around them in circles. How and why does he do that?


Not sure what you're talking about, can you link a VoD?

Just a guess, is it lings following roaches? If so it's because they move at different speeds but he wants to keep them together, so he moves just the roaches while the lings are following a roach (select all and right click to a unit).


Not, its not that kind of a thing...

This is actually a pretty bad example, because its rather short and shows only a few units but it's the first one i found:

http://tv.majorleaguegaming.com/videos/90120-wsf-b-marinekingprime-vs-stephano

At 11:42 you can see that 3 infestors stand in the middle and 3 other infestors + a few lings run around them.
Raggamuffinoo
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom117 Posts
January 07 2013 13:02 GMT
#14655
Shift move/attack move commands can cause this, the first units to get there will block the next units from following the same path.
dont quote me
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
January 07 2013 15:25 GMT
#14656
On January 07 2013 21:55 CommanderS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 12:36 Najda wrote:
On January 07 2013 08:27 CommanderS wrote:
When Stephano moves his units somewhere, it often occurs that one half of them stand there in the middle and the other half runs around them in circles. How and why does he do that?


Not sure what you're talking about, can you link a VoD?

Just a guess, is it lings following roaches? If so it's because they move at different speeds but he wants to keep them together, so he moves just the roaches while the lings are following a roach (select all and right click to a unit).


Not, its not that kind of a thing...

This is actually a pretty bad example, because its rather short and shows only a few units but it's the first one i found:

http://tv.majorleaguegaming.com/videos/90120-wsf-b-marinekingprime-vs-stephano

At 11:42 you can see that 3 infestors stand in the middle and 3 other infestors + a few lings run around them.


It looks like that's just his rally point, so different units got there at different times.
CommanderS
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany53 Posts
January 07 2013 16:08 GMT
#14657
On January 08 2013 00:25 Najda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 21:55 CommanderS wrote:
On January 07 2013 12:36 Najda wrote:
On January 07 2013 08:27 CommanderS wrote:
When Stephano moves his units somewhere, it often occurs that one half of them stand there in the middle and the other half runs around them in circles. How and why does he do that?


Not sure what you're talking about, can you link a VoD?

Just a guess, is it lings following roaches? If so it's because they move at different speeds but he wants to keep them together, so he moves just the roaches while the lings are following a roach (select all and right click to a unit).


Not, its not that kind of a thing...

This is actually a pretty bad example, because its rather short and shows only a few units but it's the first one i found:

http://tv.majorleaguegaming.com/videos/90120-wsf-b-marinekingprime-vs-stephano

At 11:42 you can see that 3 infestors stand in the middle and 3 other infestors + a few lings run around them.


It looks like that's just his rally point, so different units got there at different times.


Yeah, as I said, it's a pretty bad example. I remember a good one on metropolis, where stephano sent about 20-30 lings to a watchtower and some of them stood around it while the other half was running around as if they wanted to get closer to the tower, but unfortunately i don't remember where this was... But if you pay attention you'll probably notice it in a bunch of other games too.

On January 07 2013 22:02 Raggamuffinoo wrote:
Shift move/attack move commands can cause this, the first units to get there will block the next units from following the same path.


Kind of that might be the case, it's just that I think I never saw that thing at any other player, so it kind of interested me ^^
barbaTossa
Profile Joined August 2012
23 Posts
January 07 2013 21:46 GMT
#14658
Do Pros still add a Mothership to their compostion in lategame PvP and if the answer is yes when is the correct time to do so?

Why is it a bad idea to use Voidrays in PvP lategame?
Mefaso
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany27 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 17:55:49
January 08 2013 17:55 GMT
#14659
Yes, when you are nearly maxxed with your lategame composition, for example carriers with HTs or collosus/stalker/HT. Not so frequent in Hots though, becaus the vortex is just useless right now.
PinheadXXXXXX
Profile Joined February 2012
United States897 Posts
January 09 2013 05:16 GMT
#14660
If I see a terran 1 rax expanding, should I delay my 6:15 scan? If so, how much?
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