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haaz
Profile Joined May 2010
157 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-01 18:22:06
August 01 2012 18:19 GMT
#13601
Which terran player is considered the most agressive when it comes to his gameplay (NOT KOREAN)?
temp banned: 2 warnings: 8, my little achievments 8), last update: 23-05-2013
TheExodus
Profile Joined November 2011
293 Posts
August 01 2012 19:12 GMT
#13602
On August 02 2012 03:19 haaz wrote:
Which terran player is considered the most agressive when it comes to his gameplay (NOT KOREAN)?


Are there non-korean terrans? o_O
Mavvie
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Canada923 Posts
August 01 2012 19:30 GMT
#13603
Thorzain? He's not famous for aggressive. Also, does it matter if the Terran is Korean? The race is the same whether you're Korean or a foreigner....
Getting back into sc2 O_o
Tal0n
Profile Joined April 2010
United States175 Posts
August 01 2012 19:51 GMT
#13604
On August 02 2012 03:19 haaz wrote:
Which terran player is considered the most agressive when it comes to his gameplay (NOT KOREAN)?


qxc
stille_nacht
Profile Joined March 2011
United States34 Posts
August 01 2012 20:34 GMT
#13605
why do i not see any e-bay blocks in tvp, but i see then in tvz
Adversity is something we deal with every day, Power is the true test
galtdunn
Profile Joined March 2011
United States977 Posts
August 01 2012 20:43 GMT
#13606
On August 02 2012 05:34 stille_nacht wrote:
why do i not see any e-bay blocks in tvp, but i see then in tvz

Because you aren't watching the right games? I never see them in TvZ but see them in TvP all the time.
Currently editing items in the DotA 2 wiki. PM for questions/suggestions.
galtdunn
Profile Joined March 2011
United States977 Posts
August 01 2012 20:44 GMT
#13607
On August 02 2012 03:19 haaz wrote:
Which terran player is considered the most agressive when it comes to his gameplay (NOT KOREAN)?

Thats very subjective.

Maybe major or illusion?
Currently editing items in the DotA 2 wiki. PM for questions/suggestions.
TheExodus
Profile Joined November 2011
293 Posts
August 01 2012 20:51 GMT
#13608
On August 02 2012 05:34 stille_nacht wrote:
why do i not see any e-bay blocks in tvp, but i see then in tvz


Well, probably because you haven't seen games where the protoss skips the initial zealot
rofllocktree
Profile Joined May 2012
Netherlands45 Posts
August 01 2012 21:08 GMT
#13609
I'm a gold lvl player with probably the shittiest keyboard around, the "Razer Arctosa", i'm just unable to read any key on my keyboard from any position.

Now what do u guys say, keep it like this and just practise a lot untill you never make misstakes anymore on your keyboards,(as better players never look at their keyboard anymore anyway i assume)?

Or just buy a new one and dont make any mistakes but with looking sometims?

it gets me realy frustrating but maybe it's a great way to learn...
stille_nacht
Profile Joined March 2011
United States34 Posts
August 01 2012 22:10 GMT
#13610
oops, sorry, i meant it the other way around

why do i not see ebay blocks in tvz, but i see them in tvp ><

(my reasoning being that ebay block= much better than a pylon block, and toss does that all the time?)
Adversity is something we deal with every day, Power is the true test
roym899
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany426 Posts
August 01 2012 22:21 GMT
#13611
Hey,
I just got promoted from Diamond to Master League and wonder why I have a huge Bonus Pool right now. (over 200points) My old Bonus pool was completly empty before getting promoted. Is it just because you gain more Bonus Pool when you are in Master league? So i got the bonus pool now, which I missed during my time in Diamond? Or is it something different?


Also: Does anyone know how they determine how many points I lose because of the promotion? (just out of curiosity, not that it matters after all)
Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
August 01 2012 22:28 GMT
#13612
On August 02 2012 07:21 roym899 wrote:
Hey,
I just got promoted from Diamond to Master League and wonder why I have a huge Bonus Pool right now. (over 200points) My old Bonus pool was completly empty before getting promoted. Is it just because you gain more Bonus Pool when you are in Master league? So i got the bonus pool now, which I missed during my time in Diamond? Or is it something different?


Also: Does anyone know how they determine how many points I lose because of the promotion? (just out of curiosity, not that it matters after all)


Masters league gains Bonus Pool at a faster rate than Diamond, so you'll have been given what you would have had there. When you get promoted you also get 73 points + whatever bonus pool you had spent so far that season.

This thread is the perfect source for any questions on ladder rank related issues.
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Maxamix
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada165 Posts
August 02 2012 13:44 GMT
#13613
On August 02 2012 06:08 rofllocktree wrote:
I'm a gold lvl player with probably the shittiest keyboard around, the "Razer Arctosa", i'm just unable to read any key on my keyboard from any position.

Now what do u guys say, keep it like this and just practise a lot untill you never make misstakes anymore on your keyboards,(as better players never look at their keyboard anymore anyway i assume)?

Or just buy a new one and dont make any mistakes but with looking sometims?

it gets me realy frustrating but maybe it's a great way to learn...


For a gold level player i would not say that should be one of your big concerns, the fact that you look at your keyboard or not. I made it to platinium on the back of a laptop keyboard and a touchpad so...

I still look down @ my keyboard from time to time, when i reach for hotkey 8-10... so if it really gets you pissed i'd say change it

If you want to change it i would recomment getting a logitech G110. They are not that expensive (got mine @ 60$, was an open box but still in perfect condition.) It's not a mechanical keyboard but it served me well now and it has every little function you could possibly want.
haaz
Profile Joined May 2010
157 Posts
August 02 2012 16:11 GMT
#13614
1) what is the proper response to 6pool when going 12 gate opening?
2) what is the proper response to 6pool when going FFE?
3) what to do after defending 6pool with no / little probe loses?
4) what to do after losing many probes to 6pool? is there any way to come back to game?
Thanks for answers
temp banned: 2 warnings: 8, my little achievments 8), last update: 23-05-2013
TheExodus
Profile Joined November 2011
293 Posts
August 02 2012 16:39 GMT
#13615
On August 03 2012 01:11 haaz wrote:
1) what is the proper response to 6pool when going 12 gate opening?
2) what is the proper response to 6pool when going FFE?
3) what to do after defending 6pool with no / little probe loses?
4) what to do after losing many probes to 6pool? is there any way to come back to game?
Thanks for answers


1. Wall off with forge, build a cannon or two.
2. Wall off with gateways, build another cannon. Cancel gateways before they finish if they're not needed anymore.
3. Probe like mad, take an expansion earlier than normal.
4. Probe like mad, don't expand, scout to see how he follows up.
Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
August 02 2012 16:45 GMT
#13616
On August 03 2012 01:39 TheExodus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 01:11 haaz wrote:
2) what is the proper response to 6pool when going FFE?


2. Wall off with gateways, build another cannon. Cancel gateways before they finish if they're not needed anymore.


I'm curious, I thought the response to that was to build a Pylon at your main and put a cannon there? Am I out of date? Somehow it feels like I'm being sarcastic when I read that but I mean it as a serious qustion, I'm Zerg and random a bit but I suck with Toss.
♥ Liquid`Sheth ♥ Liquid`TLO ♥
TheExodus
Profile Joined November 2011
293 Posts
August 02 2012 16:47 GMT
#13617
On August 03 2012 01:45 Iyerbeth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 01:39 TheExodus wrote:
On August 03 2012 01:11 haaz wrote:
2) what is the proper response to 6pool when going FFE?


2. Wall off with gateways, build another cannon. Cancel gateways before they finish if they're not needed anymore.


I'm curious, I thought the response to that was to build a Pylon at your main and put a cannon there? Am I out of date? Somehow it feels like I'm being sarcastic when I read that but I mean it as a serious qustion, I'm Zerg and random a bit but I suck with Toss.


You cant mine at the natural if you cannon your main. I prefer to wall completely if i get 6-pooled.
Maxamix
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada165 Posts
August 02 2012 16:47 GMT
#13618
On August 03 2012 01:45 Iyerbeth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 01:39 TheExodus wrote:
On August 03 2012 01:11 haaz wrote:
2) what is the proper response to 6pool when going FFE?


2. Wall off with gateways, build another cannon. Cancel gateways before they finish if they're not needed anymore.


I'm curious, I thought the response to that was to build a Pylon at your main and put a cannon there? Am I out of date? Somehow it feels like I'm being sarcastic when I read that but I mean it as a serious qustion, I'm Zerg and random a bit but I suck with Toss.


that's pretty much what i see players do and it works pretty fine, you can even surround it and hold command to protect it even longer
Orek
Profile Joined February 2012
1665 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-02 18:51:01
August 02 2012 18:46 GMT
#13619
On August 03 2012 01:47 TheExodus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 01:45 Iyerbeth wrote:
On August 03 2012 01:39 TheExodus wrote:
On August 03 2012 01:11 haaz wrote:
2) what is the proper response to 6pool when going FFE?


2. Wall off with gateways, build another cannon. Cancel gateways before they finish if they're not needed anymore.


I'm curious, I thought the response to that was to build a Pylon at your main and put a cannon there? Am I out of date? Somehow it feels like I'm being sarcastic when I read that but I mean it as a serious qustion, I'm Zerg and random a bit but I suck with Toss.


You cant mine at the natural if you cannon your main. I prefer to wall completely if i get 6-pooled.


You can't possibly wall natural in time unless everything works out nicely. (very VERY small choke, terrible opponent, scouting early) Practically, it is impossible to wall natural when facing 6pool as FFE player.

Correct response to
2) what is the proper response to 6pool when going FFE?
would be

1. Build pylon at your main, preferably behind your mineral line, never in open area.
2. Build cannon INSIDE your mineral line when forge finishes using the pylon you just made. Place it slightly off to 1 side so that the cannon covers one of your 2 gases. You need to secure gas off of that cannon alone.
3. Micro your probes. Lings will usually arrive before cannon finishes, so protect it while you scare 6 lings off with your 15+ probes. Losing a few probes is fine, although losing none would be excellent and possible.
4. Mine again when cannon finishes. SACRIFICE forge and pylon at front. You are still ahead in workers.
5. Transition into 1 base build with gateway & gas. Some prefers to simply go 4 gate to kill, others go expand like you normally would with your 1 base sentry expand.

Protoss is usually ahead when holding 6 pool successfully this way without losing too many probes while microing.
You are ahead, it' just that you are not used to the sutiation, not nearly enough. Therefore, you might die in confusion how to follow up.
TheExodus
Profile Joined November 2011
293 Posts
August 02 2012 19:39 GMT
#13620
On August 03 2012 03:46 Orek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 01:47 TheExodus wrote:
On August 03 2012 01:45 Iyerbeth wrote:
On August 03 2012 01:39 TheExodus wrote:
On August 03 2012 01:11 haaz wrote:
2) what is the proper response to 6pool when going FFE?


2. Wall off with gateways, build another cannon. Cancel gateways before they finish if they're not needed anymore.


I'm curious, I thought the response to that was to build a Pylon at your main and put a cannon there? Am I out of date? Somehow it feels like I'm being sarcastic when I read that but I mean it as a serious qustion, I'm Zerg and random a bit but I suck with Toss.


You cant mine at the natural if you cannon your main. I prefer to wall completely if i get 6-pooled.


You can't possibly wall natural in time unless everything works out nicely. (very VERY small choke, terrible opponent, scouting early) Practically, it is impossible to wall natural when facing 6pool as FFE player.



You can wall natural, although I typo'd about the gateways. An extra pylon is all that's needed. Below White-Ra demonstrates this against a 7-pool, but it's doable against a 6-pool as well (you have enough minerals to get the pylon up just in time).

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