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coriamon
244 Posts
What is the default hotkey for |Hold Fire|? Is there a way to make it display on the command card? Are there ways to change it for different units (for example, I would change it to 'E' for sentries bur 'B' for ghosts being that I use FFs and nukes the most with those units respectively)? If you Hold Fire on a baneling, will it refrain from blowing up (unless killed)? Thanks in advance! | ||
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K3Nyy
United States1961 Posts
On January 28 2012 13:04 coriamon wrote: . I don't mean to be rude, but I believe he is referring to a ping. A ping is done by pressing Alt-G (as the standard hotkey for it) and clicking either on the minimap or on the area you wish to alert your allys to. Oops, I dunno what I'm talking about lol. Though I'm sure you don't have to press alt + G. You can do it with the mouse too I think. lol I don't even know what I press when I do it. x_x;; | ||
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Forbidden17
666 Posts
On January 28 2012 08:06 lpunatic wrote: If I ffe with a half-wall in (e.g. metalopolis), is the best response to sling runbys before I have many units to temporarily wall in at the bottom of my ramp? What should be done with the probes in the nat? always re-scout the zerg with a probe at the 5:00min mark if you FFE. Check for a 3rd, check the nat, go into the main and look for structures/gas-count. when you FFE on maps like metal you need two cannons by default. one near your ramp and the other should be placed in the mineral field such that you can sit a zealot/probe between the cannon and the nexus/minerals to complete a 'full wall'. the back of the minerals can be walled with a pylon. It's hard to explain without a picture, just go to metalopolis and look at the natural of any base. You can full wall the back of the minerals with a pylon and have a cannon beside it that would complete the wall. if you scout cheese/all-in/aggression throw down 2 more cannons right away and if there is a risk of ling run by make sure you have something on hold position to complete the wall. full wall with another pylon if necessary. | ||
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llKenZyll
United States853 Posts
On January 24 2012 21:36 Lebzetu wrote: As Zerg, how do i remember to upgrade? Looking for more answers. I always forget upgrades and I go 40 minute games being 2-1 or 3-0 | ||
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envisioN .
United States552 Posts
On January 29 2012 00:19 Lebzetu wrote: Looking for more answers. I always forget upgrades and I go 40 minute games being 2-1 or 3-0 Try connecting upgrades to something else that you do in the game like building a Lair or Hive. Whenever you build a lair or hive, check your upgrades. Whenever your lair or hive finishes, check your upgrades. Another way is to put your evo chamber(s) in a place that you will be looking at often. I like to create a semi wall off at my natural to prevent hellions, etc. This way I see my evo chamber(s) often, which reminds me to keep getting upgrades. | ||
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envisioN .
United States552 Posts
On January 28 2012 13:08 coriamon wrote: Question: What is the default hotkey for |Hold Fire|? Is there a way to make it display on the command card? Are there ways to change it for different units (for example, I would change it to 'E' for sentries bur 'B' for ghosts being that I use FFs and nukes the most with those units respectively)? If you Hold Fire on a baneling, will it refrain from blowing up (unless killed)? Thanks in advance! The Ghost is the only unit that has a Hold Fire command. The default hotkey is "F". If you are having trouble putting down Forcefields, I would suggest holding down F or whatever your hotkey for it is and then clicking the spots you want the FF. This is faster and puts them down ASAP. There is a setting that will display the hotkey for everything in the corner of the actions box in the bottom right. I can't remember where that setting is exactly but it shouldn't be too hard to find. | ||
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BigJoe
United States210 Posts
i have a quick TvP question about proxy 2 gates. Sometimes I know when they are doing it and they dont think I realize so I like to go 12/14 rax and bunker in my mineral line to troll them but it ends up being closer than it should. on xel'naga i go dragon style by walling off their gates with 2 rax and a bunker and it's fine but you cant do that on other maps do you guys have any better ways to troll these players? xD | ||
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Josh_rakoons
United Kingdom1158 Posts
On January 29 2012 01:40 BigJoe wrote: whats up TL? i have a quick TvP question about proxy 2 gates. Sometimes I know when they are doing it and they dont think I realize so I like to go 12/14 rax and bunker in my mineral line to troll them but it ends up being closer than it should. on xel'naga i go dragon style by walling off their gates with 2 rax and a bunker and it's fine but you cant do that on other maps do you guys have any better ways to troll these players? xD Win the game by not playing retardedly? User was warned for this post | ||
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BigJoe
United States210 Posts
On January 29 2012 01:53 Josh_rakoons wrote: Win the game by not playing retardedly? I don't understand what you mean by not playing "retardedly". I still win and closer than it should doesn't mean it's a close game at all. I just want other peoples thoughts about what they do when they scout it and still let them do it. | ||
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Host-
New Zealand459 Posts
On January 29 2012 00:19 Lebzetu wrote: Looking for more answers. I always forget upgrades and I go 40 minute games being 2-1 or 3-0 You can hotkey your evo's. Listen/Look for when an upgrade finishes. Set yourself a goal to be maxed (in terms of upgrades) by 18mins. | ||
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Munchiez
Sweden7 Posts
I've noticed some people gate at 12 and others gate at 13 as protoss, whats the difference and do you gain anything by a later gateway? | ||
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llKenZyll
United States853 Posts
On January 29 2012 02:45 Munchiez wrote: Hello, I've noticed some people gate at 12 and others gate at 13 as protoss, whats the difference and do you gain anything by a later gateway? Just go 13 gate. It's better. By going 13 gate, you dont cut a probe and you have more efficient mining time. | ||
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Munchiez
Sweden7 Posts
On January 29 2012 02:52 Lebzetu wrote: Just go 13 gate. It's better. By going 13 gate, you dont cut a probe and you have more efficient mining time. the thing is that i dont cut a probe when i do 12 gate, i do it really late 12, or am i thinking..wrong? | ||
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aZealot
New Zealand5447 Posts
I have a question, if I have multiple production facilities on one hot-key (say my tc, forge, and robo bay) how do I go to them individually through using keys. I know I can tab through them but I'd like to go to them individually on the screen so I can chrono them when upgrading. I thought it was the space bar, but it is not. Any tips? Thanks. | ||
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tyronekiller
Norway4 Posts
On January 29 2012 00:19 Lebzetu wrote: Looking for more answers. I always forget upgrades and I go 40 minute games being 2-1 or 3-0 If you can, build the structures near your Hatcheries. When you inject, build Extractors, or something similar, look to see if there are any bars on your buildings. If not, then you can see that "Hey, no upgrades are going at the moment, I should do that." | ||
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phyren
United States1067 Posts
On January 29 2012 03:50 Munchiez wrote: the thing is that i dont cut a probe when i do 12 gate, i do it really late 12, or am i thinking..wrong? If you arechronoboosting you have about 150 minerals just before that 12th probe finishes. At this point you can either get the next probe and delay gate slightly or get the gate delay the probe slightly. It is a very slight delay; as in, if you just have to wait to send a probe from mining to your front then that is time enough to make the extra probe and still build the gate the moment it reaches the front. However, if you try to have your probe in place to place the gate the moment you get 150, then you just can't do that at 12 and make the next probe instantly and have constant chronoboost. You have to choose to slow down on one of those 3 things. edit: I'm having some issues with pvt close air positions on metalopolis. It is close enough for 1 base all ins to be a real concern, so I feel I need to expo quickly to beat a 1-1-1. At the same time I have some trouble going int the late game as terrans can constantly drop harass and expo almost freely. This is especially the case against terrans that get cloacked banshees and expand. I feel they can pull me around in so many directions and my counter drops aren't really so strong. A good terran just loses a few depos or add ons. I guess I'm just wondering what people think is a good way for protoss to take advantage of the close air spawns without doing something gimmicky. | ||
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Forbidden17
666 Posts
On January 29 2012 05:38 phyren wrote: If you arechronoboosting you have about 150 minerals just before that 12th probe finishes. At this point you can either get the next probe and delay gate slightly or get the gate delay the probe slightly. It is a very slight delay; as in, if you just have to wait to send a probe from mining to your front then that is time enough to make the extra probe and still build the gate the moment it reaches the front. However, if you try to have your probe in place to place the gate the moment you get 150, then you just can't do that at 12 and make the next probe instantly and have constant chronoboost. You have to choose to slow down on one of those 3 things. edit: I'm having some issues with pvt close air positions on metalopolis. It is close enough for 1 base all ins to be a real concern, so I feel I need to expo quickly to beat a 1-1-1. At the same time I have some trouble going int the late game as terrans can constantly drop harass and expo almost freely. This is especially the case against terrans that get cloacked banshees and expand. I feel they can pull me around in so many directions and my counter drops aren't really so strong. A good terran just loses a few depos or add ons. I guess I'm just wondering what people think is a good way for protoss to take advantage of the close air spawns without doing something gimmicky. Yea I know what you mean with metalopolis -.-' reactor 2rax hits obnoxiously fast on close air there it's really annoying. Still 1gate FE can hold it just fine as long as you don't use a greedy variant, and it holds cloak banshees and 1/1/1 very well. Again, just don't use too greedy of a variant and 1/1/1, cloak banshee, 2rax should be no problem on virtually any map. Everyone has a go-to 1gate FE in case their probe doesn't make it into the terran base, whatever yours is make sure it deals with all of the above moderately well. If terrans are going cloak banshees -> expo and their banshees do no damage you should be wayyyy ahead in economy. I basically never drop terran.... lols sorry I can't really comment on that. As far as dealing with drops are concerned, just position stalkers well preemptively, have an obs in his base to spot his tech timing. The stuff you do every game... I guess you'd expect drops earlier since it's close air but other than that nothing special. When you're getting contained by drops it's really important not to just lose it and box click -> a-move everything. Get blink before you get charge, and only take a 3rd if terran does so as well. This is a little hard to elaborate further as I don't really know what your playstyle is. All I know is you go for drops which is a little unorthodox in and of itself. Basically I just focus on deflecting the drops and macroing. As long as you don't take game ending damage from the drops you're fine. In late game scenarios having a couple cannons in your mineral lines is a good investment without eating up supply. Alternatively you can leave a templar with a few zealots and that shuts down basically anything. | ||
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VoirDire
Sweden1923 Posts
On January 29 2012 03:50 Munchiez wrote: the thing is that i dont cut a probe when i do 12 gate, i do it really late 12, or am i thinking..wrong? I think it's possible to 12g without cutting probes on maps with 4 close mineral patches and perfect drone pairing. Either you are super gosu, or you forget the 10 supply cronoboost  | ||
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Mvrio
689 Posts
On January 29 2012 02:28 BigJoe wrote: I don't understand what you mean by not playing "retardedly". I still win and closer than it should doesn't mean it's a close game at all. I just want other peoples thoughts about what they do when they scout it and still let them do it. well for trolls sake, just go a stupid hard counter to Zlots, chase them around the map with microed hellions I guess, or just go straight to his mineral line and once the probes are dead just leave, don't touch the buildings and leave. or get a hero unit going and try to kill everything with one maruader lol, get the C-shells and walk out into the abyss to face a crazy amount of Zlots, way better if you could get stim and 1 medvac in time, would be so boss. or 1 hero hellion going I feel like this should be in a "how to troll better thread" smh at myself | ||
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Olsson
Sweden931 Posts
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