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Vod.kaholic
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1052 Posts
October 25 2011 18:10 GMT
#8681
On October 25 2011 23:58 Fus wrote:
Where can i find information about Forge FE expand building placements on different maps?


Here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=271704

Just search for "[G] FFE" next time.
._. \: |: /: .-. :\ :| :/ ._. They see me rolling...
HankJDoomstorm
Profile Joined September 2011
United States15 Posts
October 25 2011 21:20 GMT
#8682
Hey, I'm a silver player who relatively recently switched to Zerg. Simple question: What basic builds should I use for ZvZ and ZvP? I'm just looking to learning the game on a basic level right now (being silver), so it seems to me that having one per matchup will do just fine while I work on my mechanics. I usually do a hatch first on 14 gas on 14 pool on 14 versus Terran.

Thanks in advance
Hank
"Being young isn't something you just grow out of"
Soluhwin
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1287 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 22:22:23
October 25 2011 21:48 GMT
#8683
On October 26 2011 06:20 HankJDoomstorm wrote:
Hey, I'm a silver player who relatively recently switched to Zerg. Simple question: What basic builds should I use for ZvZ and ZvP? I'm just looking to learning the game on a basic level right now (being silver), so it seems to me that having one per matchup will do just fine while I work on my mechanics. I usually do a hatch first on 14 gas on 14 pool on 14 versus Terran.

Thanks in advance
Hank

This is what I currently use for ZvZ, if you want to play around with baneling shannanogains:
14g
14p
15h
@100% pool, 4 lings, speed, pull one drone off gas, queen then overlord. (you may have to extractor trick the queen, depending on how good your drone-stacking-on-close-patches was at the beginning). Scout with first 4 lings.
@60 seconds into ling speed, baneling nest. Note that you may have enough gas earlier, but this allows the nest to be hidden for as long as possible and lines the finishing of it up with ling speed.

From here, you play to your opponent. If they are greedy or just went 15 hatch, then you need to take the aggression to them with your banelings. If your hatch timing was ahead of theirs, then just defend.

If you'd prefer not to go banelings for one reason or another, here is an awesome 15 hatch guide.

For ZvP, I normally open with:
14p
15h
scout on 16
4 lings at pool completion
queen, then overlord.
18g
Speed @ 100 gas
2nd queen ASAP

If your opponent opened gate first:
mine with only 2 drones on gas after starting speed
@200 gas, pull another drone off of gas
drone up to 26 (should be 34 supply if you kept all your lings and 2 queens alive.)
Roach warren, and 3 extra overloards.

This lines you up for a nice 8 roach timing that isn't all-in unless you follow up with speedlings, which is perfectly fine if you see your opponent is under-defended. The rule I use is: If my opponent has a cannon, don't follow up with lings and instead take a third.

If your opponent opened forge first or nexus first:
A guide so I don't have to write one! Note that this is a little bit out-dated and assumes forge first without scouting, so your opener is a little bit different in this guide. Still the same basic concept, though.

If you have any questions, just ask

edit: LOL broken link, fixed.
I put the sexy in dyslexia.
snively
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1159 Posts
October 25 2011 22:12 GMT
#8684
I thought hte ladder reset was supposed to be yesterday, but it was today.
Was I just plain wrong, or when they say its reset yesterday, does that mean that it only takes effect today or something?

Thanks in advance.
My religion is Starcraft
awesomo0O
Profile Joined November 2010
Tuvalu59 Posts
October 25 2011 22:12 GMT
#8685
why is TLPD not adding every game that happen in major tournaments but only seem to random pick some games and dismiss others? It's kinda retarded cause it makes the whole ranking system much less credible. For instance if you check huks profile his last games are the ones vs MC at last MLG from the GROUP stage. He played at least 10 games after this and they dont seem like they are going to add them since they already added games from more recent tournaments..

Monsyphon
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada190 Posts
October 25 2011 22:14 GMT
#8686
Im not sure if this is a simple question, but why do players look for a team/clan when they attempt to go pro? Couldnt they just enter tournaments without one? What advantages are there to being in a team?
Progamermatt
Profile Joined December 2010
United States79 Posts
October 25 2011 22:14 GMT
#8687
TvZ

What do I do against mass zergling, baneling, muta?

The banelings simply come in and just destroy me... Thanks.
I'm the man.
Soluhwin
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1287 Posts
October 25 2011 22:21 GMT
#8688
On October 26 2011 07:12 snively wrote:
I thought hte ladder reset was supposed to be yesterday, but it was today.
Was I just plain wrong, or when they say its reset yesterday, does that mean that it only takes effect today or something?

Thanks in advance.

They did announce that it was Tuesday, as far as I know.

On October 26 2011 07:14 Monsyphon wrote:
Im not sure if this is a simple question, but why do players look for a team/clan when they attempt to go pro? Couldnt they just enter tournaments without one? What advantages are there to being in a team?

Teams create both practice partners and motivation. There is also the increasing likelihood that even relatively-low-level teams will still have sponsors, and can fund the travel to a tourney.

On October 26 2011 07:14 Progamermatt wrote:
TvZ

What do I do against mass zergling, baneling, muta?

The banelings simply come in and just destroy me... Thanks.

This is far too general without a replay, consider opening a help thread. Make sure you post a replay and follow the strategy forum guidelines because we aren't too lenient around here, and the rules are to help you more than anyone else.
I put the sexy in dyslexia.
rsvp
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States2266 Posts
October 25 2011 22:34 GMT
#8689
On October 26 2011 07:12 awesomo0O wrote:
why is TLPD not adding every game that happen in major tournaments but only seem to random pick some games and dismiss others? It's kinda retarded cause it makes the whole ranking system much less credible. For instance if you check huks profile his last games are the ones vs MC at last MLG from the GROUP stage. He played at least 10 games after this and they dont seem like they are going to add them since they already added games from more recent tournaments..



Ask in this thread:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=57090
xlava
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States676 Posts
October 26 2011 00:36 GMT
#8690
On October 26 2011 07:14 Progamermatt wrote:
TvZ

What do I do against mass zergling, baneling, muta?

The banelings simply come in and just destroy me... Thanks.


Well that is a traditional ZvT style utilized by Idra especially. I recommend watching his games versus Bomber in the recent MLG.

Generally, as a Terran you want to seige your tanks first as the mass zerg ball comes towards you. Use your tanks to focus fire the banelings and stim your marines. The objective is to clean up all the banelings so that your marines can clean up the lings and muta. Obviously this is a very abstract response, but your question is hardly specific.
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
October 26 2011 01:04 GMT
#8691
not strategy talk but simple question.

Does anyone know if anyone is working on a heart of the swarm custom map? Kind of like sc2bw but for the new hots units and such.
Skelephile
Profile Joined June 2010
United States64 Posts
October 26 2011 02:37 GMT
#8692
So I'm just curious, for the new season 1v1 map pool, i see they brought back metalopolis and got rid of searing crater, but it seems like there is something else missing but i cant remeber, does anyone know?
Zerg desperately needs a sAviOr,
Kambing
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1176 Posts
October 26 2011 03:24 GMT
#8693
On October 26 2011 11:37 Skelephile wrote:
So I'm just curious, for the new season 1v1 map pool, i see they brought back metalopolis and got rid of searing crater, but it seems like there is something else missing but i cant remeber, does anyone know?


http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/3780102/Season_4_-_1v1_Ladder_Map_Changes-10_25_2011#blog

Backwater, searing, and typhon are all gone.
Crumpet
Profile Joined May 2011
United States137 Posts
October 26 2011 04:53 GMT
#8694
Possibly a very stupid question, but when playing zerg, I have a difficult time using up all of my infestor energy in a large scale engagement. I select my infestors, hit F, hold shift and blanket click the enemy army. However, the problem is that it seems that many fungals are not used and several of my infestors die without touching their energy. Am I attempting to do this the wrong way, or is there a more optimal way to perform this task?
"Because boy bands are no match for fucking missiles." Day9
Magorical
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia23 Posts
October 26 2011 06:16 GMT
#8695
On October 26 2011 07:14 Progamermatt wrote:
TvZ

What do I do against mass zergling, baneling, muta?

The banelings simply come in and just destroy me... Thanks.


If you are having trouble with banelings, you should try a mech style as there is little micro involved. I am assuming you are trying marine tank which can be quite difficult when playing against banelings due to the intense micro that is needed to keep your army alive.
'Just remember that you can beat your opponent just by having a lot of shit' - Day[9]
Magorical
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia23 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-26 06:49:57
October 26 2011 06:19 GMT
#8696
On October 26 2011 13:53 Crumpet wrote:
Possibly a very stupid question, but when playing zerg, I have a difficult time using up all of my infestor energy in a large scale engagement. I select my infestors, hit F, hold shift and blanket click the enemy army. However, the problem is that it seems that many fungals are not used and several of my infestors die without touching their energy. Am I attempting to do this the wrong way, or is there a more optimal way to perform this task?


NEVER hold shift when you are issuing orders to spellcaster units. 99% of the time they are moving and what you are doing with shift is queuing the cast spell command whilst their move command still exists.

The game translates this to 'Walk to this location, then fungal growth in that spot' which will not work and will get your units killed. What you want to do is to just press 'F' and then fungal growth the desired spot without holding shift at all. This will cause the ability to be done instantaneously.

(EDIT: You can issue orders to your spell casters while they are moving, just make sure you are not holding shift and your spell cast order will over ride the movement command.)

I hope this helps.
'Just remember that you can beat your opponent just by having a lot of shit' - Day[9]
Crumpet
Profile Joined May 2011
United States137 Posts
October 26 2011 06:22 GMT
#8697
Aye it does help. Thanks a bunch .
"Because boy bands are no match for fucking missiles." Day9
Plonq
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia3 Posts
October 26 2011 08:44 GMT
#8698
I'm relatively new to SC2, and the resounding suggestion I'm hearing is to make sure I have the basics down pat before I start thinking about tricky builds or strategies.

It seems that an MM push at 7mins (around 50food) with stim seems like a solid strategy for me to work on. I want to pay particular attention to maximising my army and not skipping SVC production.

My question is - how will I know when I've mastered the basics? Will it be when I'm diamond, masters (currently plat)? Will I be able to reach diamond league with only this strat if the BO is perfect?
Chinesewonder
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada354 Posts
October 26 2011 10:20 GMT
#8699
I just have no answer to the protoss deathball. Im talking about 6-8 voids, + 4-5 colossi and any gateway units. I usually get broodlord infestor roach, however, if they push out earlier before I can tech to broods what the hell do I do? No matter the number of roaches I have, I just get FF'ed and rolled to death.
Noodler
Profile Joined July 2011
United States14 Posts
October 26 2011 12:18 GMT
#8700
Does anyone know when the KOREAN ladder is supposed to reset and season 4 begins?
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