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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
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Soluhwin
United States1287 Posts
On August 03 2011 13:22 Peterblue wrote: I played about 800 games as Zerg, and by the middle-end of it I was able to get an instinctual sense for when my larva would pop. I never checked. There is a notification at the left of the screen that has a little larva portrait to let you know when larva pops. I think you'll also hear the "PLOP" sound of larva falling off regardless of where you are currently looking on the map. On August 03 2011 13:45 Probe1 wrote: What's the obvious zerg counter to zealot archon? I'd say roach/baneling, or possibly even pure roaches would do fine. Though, in terms of what would be the best at killing it, counter-chart style, then brood-lords are the way to go. | ||
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MiyaviTeddy
Canada697 Posts
and against toss, how does one deal with mass stalkers/immortals/colossi? with a few sentries here and there. Whenever toss gets a good amount of colossi, its really difficult to take toss on :\ | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
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closey
Hong Kong272 Posts
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birdkicker
United States752 Posts
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
On August 03 2011 14:37 closey wrote: In what order: Aggression then start expand, or expand THEN aggression? What races are being played and what is your opponent doing? | ||
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Shadyf0o
63 Posts
Maybe this strategy only works for me because protoss don't expect tanks from terran. lol! I keep encountering the same mid-late game armies: few colossus, zealots, stalkers and high templar. An army of marines, tanks, vikings, and ravens owns this composition in my experience. Oh and medivavs. Need those in case your marines catch an unlucky spray from the colossus. Obviously you need to micro. If these two armies were to run into each other i think the protoss would win. But if you keep your tanks in the right places and don't let your bio balls catch too many colossus sprays without medivac support, it works really well. And should your opponent decide to tech up to any sort of air (like my last opponent), you are already prepared with the vikings, which discourages your opponent from considering air as a last resort. The raven eliminates the chance for any sneaky DTs too. | ||
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xylidine
United States42 Posts
On August 03 2011 14:53 Shadyf0o wrote: Why are tanks not used in pvt? Immortals may be strong against them, but they cannot be made in bulk the same way tanks can. I have more success in pvt when I use marines, tanks and vikings, especially when the protoss are using colossus. They absorb storms better than bio balls as well. I realize that they are not as micro friendly, but they have been getting the job done for me in diamond. Maybe this strategy only works for me because protoss don't expect tanks from terran. lol! I keep encountering the same mid-late game armies: few colossus, zealots, stalkers and high templar. An army of marines, tanks, vikings, and ravens owns this composition in my experience. Oh and medivavs. Need those in case your marines catch an unlucky spray from the colossus. Obviously you need to micro. If these two armies were to run into each other i think the protoss would win. But if you keep your tanks in the right places and don't let your bio balls catch too many colossus sprays without medivac support, it works really well. And should your opponent decide to tech up to any sort of air (like my last opponent), you are already prepared with the vikings, which discourages your opponent from considering air as a last resort. The raven eliminates the chance for any sneaky DTs too. Easy counter to tanks would be chargelots (which are much cheaper), or even blink starkers. | ||
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WarSame
Canada1950 Posts
On August 03 2011 15:56 xylidine wrote: Easy counter to tanks would be chargelots (which are much cheaper), or even blink starkers. Also, there is a MAJOR issue with mobility. For example, look at Metalopolis: you will have to have 1/2 your tanks protecting your third, and 1/2 protecting your nat. So the Protoss will simply run over each half of your army at a time(although you can wall off with spare buildings so they can't actually reach your tanks). Also, Tanks no longer have the range or damage that they used to in BW, and they're simply worse in about every conceivable way. However, I have gone Tank Hellion in TvP before and it is surprisingly good(until they get AtG). | ||
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Knockoutpill
Sweden23 Posts
I figured out how to carbet bomb with just a few medivacs: I click shift + d to queue up the deploy command and then click the medivac itself (for location) and then I queue up another move command with the medivac. Then it will start dropping while moving to the second location thus carpet bombing its cargo. But what's a good way to do it when I have many medivacs? Say I have six medivacs. I can issue the click + shift d command on all of them at once, but then I have to individually click each and every one of them when carpet bombing takes a few seconds and it's hard to get that time in the heat of battle. I can of course queue up the command while the medivacs are flying to their target, is that how people do it? Or is there a better way of carpet bombing than to individually click every medivac (to set the drop target to themselves)? | ||
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Knockoutpill
Sweden23 Posts
The way I do it is to select all the units that I am about to load up into the drop ships and then I right click each and every drop ship. But if the drop ships are clumped up it's sometimes hard to click all of them. Is there a better way, a way to have the drop ships pick up all units under them all at once? When I see the pros do it the drop ships pick up all units in like a tenth of a second. Maybe they click that fast, but I keep thinking they know of a better way of doing this... | ||
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Knockoutpill
Sweden23 Posts
I shift click a mineral patch to have that queued up, but I noticed there's the C and G hot keys. I tried just hitting shift C but C is only available for SCV's that are carrying minerals and that's not always the case for me (in fact that's very rarely the case because I try to pick the SCV's that don't carry minerals). So is there a better way than to start building something and then shift clicking a mineral patch? | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25563 Posts
On August 03 2011 17:51 Knockoutpill wrote: What's the best way to get an SCV to go back to mining directly after having built a building? I shift click a mineral patch to have that queued up, but I noticed there's the C and G hot keys. I tried just hitting shift C but C is only available for SCV's that are carrying minerals and that's not always the case for me (in fact that's very rarely the case because I try to pick the SCV's that don't carry minerals). So is there a better way than to start building something and then shift clicking a mineral patch? Using right-click is fine-- you don't need to use a specific hotkey. this works for both naked scvs and scvs holding resources.. If the scv is carrying minerals, it'll return the minerals before resuming mining. | ||
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Madera
Sweden2672 Posts
On August 03 2011 17:51 Knockoutpill wrote: What's the best way to get an SCV to go back to mining directly after having built a building? I shift click a mineral patch to have that queued up, but I noticed there's the C and G hot keys. I tried just hitting shift C but C is only available for SCV's that are carrying minerals and that's not always the case for me (in fact that's very rarely the case because I try to pick the SCV's that don't carry minerals). So is there a better way than to start building something and then shift clicking a mineral patch? No, shift clicking back to minerals is the most optimal technique. | ||
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Madera
Sweden2672 Posts
On August 03 2011 17:46 Knockoutpill wrote: How do you carpet bomb with several medivacs? I figured out how to carbet bomb with just a few medivacs: I click shift + d to queue up the deploy command and then click the medivac itself (for location) and then I queue up another move command with the medivac. Then it will start dropping while moving to the second location thus carpet bombing its cargo. But what's a good way to do it when I have many medivacs? Say I have six medivacs. I can issue the click + shift d command on all of them at once, but then I have to individually click each and every one of them when carpet bombing takes a few seconds and it's hard to get that time in the heat of battle. I can of course queue up the command while the medivacs are flying to their target, is that how people do it? Or is there a better way of carpet bombing than to individually click every medivac (to set the drop target to themselves)? You just fly over where you want to drop the units and hold down D, then simply click all the medivacs you want to drop with. If it's still hard for you then check out this. On August 03 2011 17:48 Knockoutpill wrote: How do I quickly load of many medivacs (or overlords or warp prisms)? The way I do it is to select all the units that I am about to load up into the drop ships and then I right click each and every drop ship. But if the drop ships are clumped up it's sometimes hard to click all of them. Is there a better way, a way to have the drop ships pick up all units under them all at once? When I see the pros do it the drop ships pick up all units in like a tenth of a second. Maybe they click that fast, but I keep thinking they know of a better way of doing this... The fastest way to do it is to just box all your units and shift+right click all your medivacs. Making the medivacs pick up all your unit is not possible. | ||
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Let it Raine
Canada1245 Posts
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Knockoutpill
Sweden23 Posts
On August 03 2011 18:14 MaderA wrote: You just fly over where you want to drop the units and hold down D, then simply click all the medivacs you want to drop with. If it's still hard for you then check out this. The fastest way to do it is to just box all your units and shift+right click all your medivacs. Making the medivacs pick up all your unit is not possible. Ok thanks. Then it's what I thought. I'm just too bad at micro (30 APM) to do it as fast as the pros. It looks like they just hit one key to carpet bomb with all drop ships / overlords however many drop ships or overlords there may be and the same with picking up units, but I guess that's what being pro is like. | ||
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Madera
Sweden2672 Posts
On August 03 2011 18:51 Knockoutpill wrote: Ok thanks. Then it's what I thought. I'm just too bad at micro (30 APM) to do it as fast as the pros. It looks like they just hit one key to carpet bomb with all drop ships / overlords however many drop ships or overlords there may be and the same with picking up units, but I guess that's what being pro is like. There is one way to drop with all the medivacs. Just select them all and press D on the ground. This technique is not carpet bombing though. | ||
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rsvp
United States2266 Posts
On August 03 2011 18:05 MaderA wrote: No, shift clicking back to minerals is the most optimal technique. Get in the habit of using scvs that are carrying minerals so that you can shift c. The delayed 5 minerals is worth the click (and potentially screen move) that you save. | ||
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