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How to exactly micro a protoss army like a pro?

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crazyskills
Profile Joined August 2010
36 Posts
January 17 2011 05:40 GMT
#1
Hi I didnt play SC1 much and I am now 2800+ diamond protoss. I've watched a ton of pro matches and played almost 1500 games, but to this day I'm still not 100% sure how to exactly micro units. I'm curious as to what all you high level/pro players do exactly in a battle? Example do you # ur zealots 1 and stalkers 2 and coll 3? And do u do "a" attack with zealots, and what commands for stalkers? I understand completely on moving hurt units back and when to chase an army and when to be moving back, I'm just still not exactly sure on what buttons/commands to give each units. Most of the time i use "a" ground with stalkers then i start boxing units and and killing off hurt units or the important ones, but I know that I'm missing out on something> I see a lot of people bashing on Attack move, so I know for sure I need to learn more about the commands. Thanks to anyone who takes the time to answer

Summerfield
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden88 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-17 05:58:02
January 17 2011 05:55 GMT
#2
You do use the tab key with your army right? Makes any micro a whole lot easier. The only hot keys I use when moving my Protoss army are the stalkers if they have blink and the high templars to quickly get storm so I don't screw up by clicking past them while in a critical position in battle. Usually I have stalkers on 5 to just move my finger directly down to push B to blink and the HT on 6 to push T when storming.
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wishbones
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada2600 Posts
January 17 2011 06:13 GMT
#3
this should help.

http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/CrunCher
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Schwopzi
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands954 Posts
January 17 2011 06:16 GMT
#4
The most important thing to micro in a protoss army is your unit positioning, for example zealots up front, followed by sentries for key ff, immortals behind those, stalkers behind those, colossus at the back, ht's in a different group always positioned in a protected spot. Then it's just a-move in if you attack, place forcefields, hit key storms, target fire armoured units with immortals, micro colossus away from focus fire, focus viking/corruptor with stalkers. More then enough to do!
Ofcourse your unit positioning depends on the situation at hand, vs ghosts you'll want to try to feedback before combat, vs tanks you want to have immortals up front, etc etc.
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Spectorials
Profile Joined October 2010
558 Posts
January 17 2011 06:20 GMT
#5
No offense to wishbones or cruncher but I just opened that stream as he warped in 4 DTs on jungle basin and he literally did no micro :S.

Very little attempts to move DTs in different directions to avoid scans. Didn't target mules with the DTs...
iSTime
Profile Joined November 2006
1579 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-17 06:41:13
January 17 2011 06:39 GMT
#6
On January 17 2011 15:20 Spectorials wrote:
No offense to wishbones or cruncher but I just opened that stream as he warped in 4 DTs on jungle basin and he literally did no micro :S.

Very little attempts to move DTs in different directions to avoid scans. Didn't target mules with the DTs...


Microing 6 DTs against a guy who doesn't even have ebay up yet: not worth it.

On topic, just do things that make sense. Early game PvT, for example, usually you'll just want to a move zealot while focusing down the 2-3 marauders they have with stalker/sentry. Once the marauders are gone zealot+stalker just tears through marines.
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crazyskills
Profile Joined August 2010
36 Posts
January 17 2011 06:40 GMT
#7
ok ty , i do all of this most of the time.. i was just wondering if i was missing out on something...Like my friend recently told me to do "s" or stop command with ranged and they will stay put and fire and i was wondering when to apply that because i always use a move. Also i was wondering what command groups do u make ur units? lately ive been lazy and putting all gateway units in control group # 1 and using tab if i want to blink or ff and then templar and or coll in dif groups. I was thinking in my mind its prob best to break them dont zealots #1, ranged #2 and then special units 3...but im not totally sure, so any and all suggestions helps. thanks for detailed replies guys
wishbones
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada2600 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-17 06:48:31
January 17 2011 06:47 GMT
#8
for hotkeys. i place (melee/tank unit#1) (stalker#2) (long range/air#3)

#1 being units that will go in first, #2 being units that will be behind any of the first units, #3 being anything i don't want running directly into the fight but instead fighting from behind. so sentries/air/collosi etc..
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Hane
Profile Joined November 2010
France210 Posts
January 17 2011 09:08 GMT
#9
On January 17 2011 15:47 wishbones wrote:
for hotkeys. i place (melee/tank unit#1) (stalker#2) (long range/air#3)

#1 being units that will go in first, #2 being units that will be behind any of the first units, #3 being anything i don't want running directly into the fight but instead fighting from behind. so sentries/air/collosi etc..


pros don't use those hotkeys to micro during battles.
zorion
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden72 Posts
January 17 2011 10:31 GMT
#10
well micro to focus fire is the thing I focus most on after the initial battlesettup and spellcaster abbilities.

ie make sure my imortals spread their fire aswell as the colossus(ies) not have all my stalkers fire on random targets, but rather trying to get grps of 5or6 shift clicked on targets
also trying the get a runby with a couple of zealeots to a flank to drag away AI fire from my dps units ot if lucky get em in the base to harras keybuildings/workers.

I hate when i do 2(stalker grp) target klick a banshee or so instead of selecting just acouple of em...
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aesth
Profile Joined November 2010
2 Posts
January 17 2011 11:00 GMT
#11
Hi; I'm about 600 points bellow you, so take my advice with a grain of salt

There is this day9 daily where LiquidTyler plays a PvP and he is behind in army value, but wins the fights by colossus micro (he basically positions them nicely and targets the enemy colossi from a ~20° angle if I recall this right, you better go and search for said episode).

Aside from that there is not much that I do aside from moving the stalkers so all of them keep hitting the enemy (either spread them out or move them). I think what improved my P micro the best was smurfing as a T with a friend's account, as MM reaps such huge benefit from micro you will naturally want to micro them. And many things you do with Marines (like running from Zerglings while shooting, preventing a proper surround) can be done with Stalkers too!

But what's probably the best idea for you to do is get some high APM player's replay pack and watch what he is doing. In fact, forget my personal advice and do that!
wowsukz
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands58 Posts
January 17 2011 14:02 GMT
#12
On January 17 2011 15:39 PJA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2011 15:20 Spectorials wrote:
No offense to wishbones or cruncher but I just opened that stream as he warped in 4 DTs on jungle basin and he literally did no micro :S.

Very little attempts to move DTs in different directions to avoid scans. Didn't target mules with the DTs...


Microing 6 DTs against a guy who doesn't even have ebay up yet: not worth it.



Sure its not worth it to win the game.

What is this?
PaPoolee
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands660 Posts
January 17 2011 14:09 GMT
#13
2500~ masters here, 3k diamond prepatch and i put zealots on #1 sentries #2 stalkers #3 HT#6 Colossi or special units that aren't mentioned up are on my logitech G5's Xbuttons => zealots in front, behind them sentries + immortals then stalker/colossi! ht's should be spread out infront of the army, the back and the sides .
da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
January 17 2011 14:10 GMT
#14
i like to group up my zlots, sentries, and immortals in one hotkey since they have the same movement speed (before speed upgraded), stalkers in another group, collosus in another.

basically it goes like this:
early game: nexus 1
zlot/sentry 2
stalkers 3

mid game: nexus 1
ground ball 2
collo 3
phoenix/voids 4
important building 5
obs 0

late game: depends what composition i have, but usually the same as mid game.

Yes i know having nexus as 1 is terribad, but its a bad habit i have from bw -___-
but whee for having a free hotkey for warpgates. helps a lot
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tadgh11
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada14 Posts
January 17 2011 14:41 GMT
#15
Split up sentries / ht so they aren't sniped as easily, or EMPed.
lolrider
Profile Joined July 2010
United States12 Posts
January 17 2011 14:52 GMT
#16
On January 17 2011 18:08 Hane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2011 15:47 wishbones wrote:
for hotkeys. i place (melee/tank unit#1) (stalker#2) (long range/air#3)

#1 being units that will go in first, #2 being units that will be behind any of the first units, #3 being anything i don't want running directly into the fight but instead fighting from behind. so sentries/air/collosi etc..


pros don't use those hotkeys to micro during battles.



So Hane - what do pros do?
tadgh11
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada14 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-17 14:58:17
January 17 2011 14:57 GMT
#17
Oddly enough it seems like a lot of have their armies on one hotkey and their casters only on another hotkey. If their army's in a bad position, they re-position it manually before engaging. Of course the method of zealots on 1, stalkers on 2 etc is better logically.
Nifel
Profile Joined June 2010
706 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-17 15:08:33
January 17 2011 15:05 GMT
#18
I'm just a scrub so don't heed my advice too much, but anyway, I usually divide units depending on speed and role. I have zealots, immortals and archons on 1 and then just use ctrl+click to select and direct the immortals (you don't want them shooting marines when there are marauders etc.). On 2 I keep my stalkers to make sure I can micro and blink without doing any mistakes. 3 is usually my sentries early game (later on they're passed on to 1 as they match the speed of zealots and immortals) and colossi/templars/void rays. 4 is my production buildings (which I shift through with tab) and nexus on 5. Any drops or harassing units such as phoenix I usually keep on 6 and observers, manner pylons or gas steal assimilators are put on 7.

Yeah, I do hotkey a lot. And yes, it might seem like a huge mess. But trust me, compared to my Brood War hotkeys this is really well structured and thought out.
crazyskills
Profile Joined August 2010
36 Posts
January 17 2011 18:46 GMT
#19
ok all great answers guys...does anyone use S or H ...stop or hold for their ranges units? i think i will try grouping zealots/sent/immortals as one group, thats makes a lot of sense and will help with spacing for sure. usually what ive been doing lately is all units in 1 control group and then templar or coll in another , obs 0, nexus(s) 5, important buildings 4 with tab through. but was really just feeling lazy so was def curious as to what ya'll were doin, and as to if anyone uses any dif commands besides A move and then boxing and selecting units to crush...thnx for all info!
Eggcake
Profile Joined August 2010
Switzerland722 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-17 19:40:33
January 17 2011 19:38 GMT
#20
For me:

1: Zealot/Sentry/Immortal
2: Stalker
3: Colossi/HT
4: Phoenix/VoidRays
5: Robo/Stargate
6: Nexus
7-9: Special things like DTs, Drops/Split up group or 2nd Observer
0: Observer

There are pros who don't use any hotkeys for their armies, but obviously it is much easier if you do and it's way easier no matter how good you are.

I know for a fact that TLO didn't use hotkeys for his armies (maybe sometimes) for a long time.
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