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starbreaker
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7 Posts
January 14 2011 07:49 GMT
#61
12min gold terran
macro beats micro
Chutoro
Profile Joined January 2011
New Zealand95 Posts
January 14 2011 07:55 GMT
#62
Silver zerg, 12:18, second try. My first try was a little better I think but the replay didn't save right with no opponent, and the very easy AI I added to fix the issue on the second try decided to send a zealot after me at the 10 minute mark. I think I had plenty of room for improvement still as I was definitely low on hatcheries at the end.



Ryndika
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1489 Posts
January 14 2011 07:57 GMT
#63
I thought this was somewhat good idea until i read the line where it says you cant use macro abilities.

Hmm.. Doesn't that provoke bad play in the end? It's mostly about musclememory so if you do this exercisement I definitely think you should use all macroabilities you can.
Managing 6 bases with queens and without queens. The difference is too huge...
as useful as teasalt
TheLunaticMonk
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland36 Posts
January 14 2011 08:40 GMT
#64
Why not restrict the zerg to having 3 queens only. You dont get much more queens than that in standard ladder for larvae purpose.
Flexx
Profile Joined August 2010
United States87 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-14 09:53:31
January 14 2011 09:30 GMT
#65
It's just a macro exercise. If you don't like the way it's set up.. then change it and play it how you want.

No one is making you kids do it this exact way. It's just a framework for you to creatively expound upon. So stop bitching about things you dislike about it, and say thank you to TS for the idea.
Just.Die
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1 Post
January 14 2011 09:33 GMT
#66
Bronze Protoss. 12:08, took every blue and have 17 nexuses.... nexii? probably doo it faster got supply blocked for about 5 seconds
JustinHit
Profile Joined October 2010
United States196 Posts
January 14 2011 09:35 GMT
#67
If you're gona issue a challenge you really need to be specific on the maps, cause that plays a huge roll.
For the swarm for life!
Flexx
Profile Joined August 2010
United States87 Posts
January 14 2011 09:53 GMT
#68
On January 14 2011 18:35 HitStarcraft wrote:
If you're gona issue a challenge you really need to be specific on the maps, cause that plays a huge roll.


Christ.. Read the OP.

Metalopolis. Explicitly stated.
AvengerAzrael
Profile Joined November 2010
Lebanon20 Posts
January 14 2011 10:24 GMT
#69
Silver Terran 11 45, had the whole map minning except the Gold expansions, a lot of commands centers.
KeepYaCoolBro
Profile Joined October 2010
United States49 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-14 10:48:17
January 14 2011 10:47 GMT
#70
Practicing Macro without using macro abilities to get "muscle memory" and timings is not the best idea in my opinion. It's like practicing to hit the ball without an actual ball, or learning to catch a football without a real football. I play Terran and part of learning macro for me was learning when the energy on my CC's was enough to call down a MULE, the timing if you will.

I like the idea of this exercise in principle, but disagree strongly on not using each races "boost" abilities (queen, chrono, OC). Learning macro without using the macro abilities just gets you in a bad habit. I don't think that knowing how to push "S", hotkey your CC's to 5, build a depot here and there, and calling down a MULE is much overload. And if it is, then you practice it. Just don't do it without using the core fundamentals of your macro abilities. Making an SCV and MULES are one and the same to me, and indeed learning the timing on OC energy becomes more and more important.

My 2 cents. GSL back on.
The_A_Drain
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-14 14:07:18
January 14 2011 12:59 GMT
#71
Terran, no league (haven't finished my placement games yet, only started playing Jan 1st) 18:49 but I lost a handful to the AI roaches/hydralisks.

Edit: I chose to only make Command Centres for bases though, I imagine I could do it a lot faster is I made a hooz-ton of Command Centres. Ended on 8.

Tried again, 14:33 :D
"Things he do...?"
Dilheisha
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada55 Posts
January 14 2011 13:26 GMT
#72
Platinum Terran 13:09 doesn't seem really good...
"Always expect the unexpected, For being well aware of the next disappointment" 5/04/04
Geiko
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France1984 Posts
January 14 2011 15:05 GMT
#73
Master Protoss : 11:55 (got pylon blocked )
geiko.813 (EU)
Harstem
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands263 Posts
January 14 2011 15:26 GMT
#74
11:56 master league .
Progamer
REM.ca
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada354 Posts
January 14 2011 15:41 GMT
#75
On January 15 2011 00:26 Harstem wrote:
11:56 master league .


Terran?
I have a palm permanently stuck to my face yo.
Spec
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Taiwan931 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-14 16:47:25
January 14 2011 16:36 GMT
#76
Around 11:40, Zerg on Metalopolis. Took every expo, should've taken both gold first and spam hatcheries more.

edit: sry not suppose to take gold expo. Re tried taking all 10 expos first, got same time.
Eye for an eye make the world go blind - Gandhi
Hane
Profile Joined November 2010
France210 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-14 16:41:30
January 14 2011 16:39 GMT
#77
11:50 toss master league (1st try, i think it can be improved)
REM.ca
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada354 Posts
January 14 2011 16:59 GMT
#78
On January 15 2011 01:36 Spec wrote:
Around 11:40, Zerg on Metalopolis. Took every expo, should've taken both gold first and spam hatcheries more.

edit: sry not suppose to take gold expo. Re tried taking all 10 expos first, got same time.


League?
I have a palm permanently stuck to my face yo.
Nerfed
Profile Joined May 2010
Russian Federation1132 Posts
January 14 2011 17:10 GMT
#79
11:45 Diamond toss
Bruky
Profile Joined January 2011
Czech Republic161 Posts
January 14 2011 17:34 GMT
#80
11:49 toss diamond. But was supply blocked for few seconds
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