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As we all know you can 4 gate your way to diamond ( and probably 3 gate robo as well). But that is only for protoss. I was hoping that maybe there is a way to insert build order your way to diamond for terran, something similar to 4 gate that involves finishing the game in early game or mid game, but not late game.
I am currently a terran player who is about to start in the NA server (previously focused on SEA server, until someone told me that NA had better latency).
Anyway, what build orders can i do as a terran that is cheese, early agression, one big timing push or anything intended to end the game in early/mid game? And please describe the build order in specific details (e.g 10 depot, 12 rax etc) so that i can memorise and practice it.
Edit: i am diamond in SEA server which i reached through "straight up macro no gimmicks" play so enough with the "learn to play the game" comments please. And give me the specific details of the build order in the following format:
For example:
Build order X
10 supply
12 rax
13 gas
And even if i could get to diamond fast with straight up macro, the problem is i dont know any of those gimmicky plays. And watching pro tournaments has really made me feel like playing that way.
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3 rax marine/marauder 50 food push.
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What these guys said. More specifically, 2 tech lab, 1 reactor stim push.
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how about learning to play the game?
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Bunker at ramp -> cloaked banshees works with even less mechanics.
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You can also ask a friend to play on your account to get you to diamond league while you're at it lol if its the only thing you want! Seriously play the game, practice your macro and understand the mechanics and you will get there in no time !
If you dont want to then just work on a 3 rax stim timing push and you will get a 50% win rate against all 3 matchup
Hf !
Have fun
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Alternatively pull a Foxer and 2-rax SCV rush every game.
Pro: Works at the highest level, too.
Con: Takes actually micro.
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On November 24 2010 17:57 Tianx wrote:
Bunker at ramp -> cloaked banshees works with even less mechanics.
any sort of 3-7 roach rush crushes this
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I still lose to badly executed banshee rushes at 2400 diamond, bunker rus into banshee, same story, but the bio push is probably more, hmm, standard? idk what word to use, but yeah, bio ball with stim
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You should srsly learn to play the game from the bottom. No offence, but I really think poeple should get away from playing 4Gate and 3Rax.You learn nothing using those and when you reach diamond you still have to learn the game, because you will lose every game when you reach a certain point.
What are you going to do then? Quit playing?
So learn to macro, learn to expand, learn the basics of playing Starcraft and reach diamond with real skill.
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On November 24 2010 18:03 DennyR wrote:
You should srsly learn to play the game from the bottom. No offence, but I really think poeple should get away from playing 4Gate and 3Rax.You learn nothing using those and when you reach diamond you still have to learn the game, because you will lose every game when you reach a certain point.
What are you going to do then? Quit playing?
So learn to macro, learn to expand, learn the basics of playing Starcraft and reach diamond with real skill.
Bollocks.
Korean players practice the same build over and over again, and they're pretty good, so why can't we?
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On November 24 2010 17:59 FirstQT wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2010 17:57 Tianx wrote:
Bunker at ramp -> cloaked banshees works with even less mechanics. any sort of 3-7 roach rush crushes this
There are plenty of ways to neutralize cloaked banshees, but roach rush isn't one of them. If you pull SCVs to repair you can hold anything but all-in banelings off one rax fine. Alternatively toss down another bunker if you scout it/don't see a natural hatchery but that may be getting to be too close to actual good, adaptive play for the scope of this thread.
Plus it's not like we're looking for actually 'good' builds here. Plenty of builds murder 4-gate, but that doesn't stop it from being an easy way to cheese your way into diamond.
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On November 24 2010 17:59 FirstQT wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2010 17:57 Tianx wrote:
Bunker at ramp -> cloaked banshees works with even less mechanics. any sort of 3-7 roach rush crushes this
Roach rush loses to cloaked banshees.
Try a thor/marine/scv repair rush. You can do it without scouting off 1-base. Against protoss where you suspect DTs, you may have to save a couple of scans. That will possibly take you into diamond.
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On November 24 2010 18:05 beef42 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2010 18:03 DennyR wrote:
You should srsly learn to play the game from the bottom. No offence, but I really think poeple should get away from playing 4Gate and 3Rax.You learn nothing using those and when you reach diamond you still have to learn the game, because you will lose every game when you reach a certain point.
What are you going to do then? Quit playing?
So learn to macro, learn to expand, learn the basics of playing Starcraft and reach diamond with real skill. Bollocks. Korean players practice the same build over and over again, and they're pretty good, so why can't we?
dubble bollocks
first of all:
just because koreans do it doent mean you have to do it.
seriously thats as stupid as saying player who do 4gate and 3rax are noobs
because if you do like a 4gate expand or a 3 rax expand your build is as lategameoriented as most other builds
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starcraft isnt about what strategie you do, but about when you do them
more important that doing such a push is knowing a good next step
in most cases the best transitions out of a good one base push is an expo
so if you come to the pont when you start to lose with any 1 base all in (without expo) push
start doing an expo and you are find in mid/lategame
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There is no terran build as effective and easy to play as 4 gate. If all you care about is getting diamond why don't you just play protoss? The race lends itself very well to bad play as well so if something does go wrong it's much easier to deal with. Getting dropped? No problem, since your macro is terrible you'll have plenty of money to warp in units to deal with it exactly where they need to be. Forgot to macro while fighting? No problem, warp in reinforcements at a forward pylon. You can get away with playing really really badly and still make it seem like you know what you're doing.
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is your macro bad? just drop mules.. and make planetary 
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On November 24 2010 18:36 cmp wrote:
There is no terran build as effective and easy to play as 4 gate. If all you care about is getting diamond why don't you just play protoss? The race lends itself very well to bad play as well so if something does go wrong it's much easier to deal with. Getting dropped? No problem, since your macro is terrible you'll have plenty of money to warp in units to deal with it exactly where they need to be. Forgot to macro while fighting? No problem, warp in reinforcements at a forward pylon. You can get away with playing really really badly and still make it seem like you know what you're doing.
What? 3 rax rauder stim rush ring a bell? The hardest thing here is making sure your army is in position to attack when stim finishes! Timing for beginners!
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3 rax, 2 tech lab 1 reactor stim push should get you to atleast 2100 diamond.
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EPT
