• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 07:38
CET 13:38
KST 21:38
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book9Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info6herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14
Community News
PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar)9Weekly Cups (Jan 26-Feb 1): herO, Clem, ByuN, Classic win2RSL Season 4 announced for March-April7Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win3Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0
StarCraft 2
General
Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info Clem wins HomeStory Cup 28 HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) WardiTV Mondays $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $5,000 WardiTV Winter Championship 2026
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 512 Overclocked The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth Mutation # 510 Safety Violation
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Potential Map Candidates Liquipedia.net NEEDS editors for Brood War BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Can someone share very abbreviated BW cliffnotes?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Megathread Diablo 2 thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread EVE Corporation Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Play, Watch, Drink: Esports …
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2578 users

[G] Bumblebees Guide to Playing with Low APM - Page 6

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Strategy
Post a Reply
Prev 1 4 5 6 All
fighter2_40
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States420 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-15 06:52:10
March 15 2012 06:51 GMT
#101
Interestingly enough, My zerg has the highest apm and my toss has the lowest. It's like 230 zerg 195 terran and 185 toss on sc2 gears. I play random, I used to main toss 4 seasons back.

Pretty sure toss works best with low apm. Just my opinion.
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-15 08:47:06
March 15 2012 08:45 GMT
#102
On March 10 2012 01:25 Zythius wrote:
Ah, the APM hysteria that started when people first found at that, yes, good players usually do more stuff in the space of a minute! So now everyone is a blind spammer.

I can understand that some players spam commands out-of-combat to keep focused, but does this really cover all players? Do you get more productive by spamming commands that doesn't ahve any effect?

I bet some of them are just spamming so that their APM stats look like the pros.

You don't have to blindly spam, you just need to force yourself to play faster. Pressing buttons fast is only the first step on a long road. However, if you force yourself to do SOMETHING at all times, and put some thought into it, you will quickly notice yourself getting much faster. Just pressing 1234 won't give much, but if you're aware of what you're doing, you will feel your limit quickly... in the early game, you can reset your worker waypoint, while doing worker micro, while also jumping between your main and nat saved locations (if you use base locations, which you should), maybe ctrl-grouping some workers. Yeah, the actions are useless (except for the worker micro), but there's thought behind it, it trains your speed and accuracy and warms you up. It helps a TON. As long as you're in a "now I do this (do it), now I do this (do it)" state, it will train you for the speed needed later.
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15361 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-15 09:48:12
March 15 2012 09:44 GMT
#103
Wow just saw this for the first time. Great read, like it! Nice layout with the TOC as well!

Edit: How to make a TOC that doesn't open in a new window on TL:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10797747
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
zwartenbleek
Profile Joined April 2023
1 Post
April 06 2023 08:17 GMT
#104
This has been almost 13 long years since the original post came out.

Some units got removed, some actions went obsolete, yet the guide ain't no misleading anyway. Extremely solid piece of art. This is what I want to pay for and not skins for zerglings.

I share the low APM issue but my cause is way more simple than yours. I am just incredibly sluggish + stupid because I got brain damage upon excessive hitting my head with various stuff such as foes' fists and concrete walls. Safety first!

I hope you are still alive and succeeding even if you dropped StarCraft for whatever reason (any is valid).

My 2 cents will also be put here.

Being stunted is the reason you wanna know your opponent better than just scouting the map, searching for their crucial sturctures such as Dark Shrine, Ghost Academy, Reactors, and Baneling Nest which are decisive in what they are up to, and clicking their extractors/assimilators/refineries to learn how gassy their build is. You'd better watch their latest replays so you better know their playing style, formation, accent, weak points and the exact timings where they become too macro to be contained considering your weak hands/poor vision/low IQ/nervous system failure/whatever preventing you from being fast.

This is the invaluable resource not only because you will be ready for the opponent's actions, you also will possibly learn on some yet-unknown tricks with units you'd love to consider or even use on your own if you end up understanding you're capable of gaining benefit from such actions.

P.S. My brain damage prevents me from repeating my build flawlessly game to game so it's always forced improvisation. I spent the whole month trying to remember when and what but always end up making some unusual actions just because I failed to remember what comes next. This also results in lowering my APM since I'm stalling trying to come up with an idea what to do next in this yet again unusual scenario. So I made the yet proving soild decision of writing what to do if I accidentally couldn't stick to the original plan so these no-surprise surprises become just different builds and not guaranteed loss generators.

I'm a casual gamer to say the least. Only play custom 1v1, 2v2, or party vs A.I. to have fun, never go ladder, it's just my minor itch which made me wanna improve my SCII level as it helps going through my overall depression and repels further intellectual degradation. Maybe I could be a pro but when you start playing seriously at 28 at the same moment being an RPG and TBS gamer all along... Even the healthy ones find it nearly (or totally) impossible to do so. Not to mention dumb me.

P.P.S. I hope I don't get banned upon bumping that. This guide made me register, this is my very first post here.
Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
April 11 2023 22:20 GMT
#105
zwartenbleek that was an incredibly open first post. I am glad you bumped this post because this is applicable to other games and life. Remember "slow is smooth, smooth is fast". I am sorry you are dealing with things that prevent you from playing fast, but I must say you write well and I am happy you are enjoying this game. I hope the op knows that he has helped, people like you, enjoy and play this game
"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
April 21 2023 05:48 GMT
#106
Timeless guide, only when I glanced past the timestamp did I realize it was written 13 years ago
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
Prev 1 4 5 6 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Wardi Open
12:00
#73
WardiTV403
OGKoka 198
Rex81
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
OGKoka 198
Rex 81
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 7236
Bisu 1948
BeSt 1709
Hyuk 1543
Flash 1047
actioN 1043
Horang2 923
Zeus 681
Larva 405
firebathero 316
[ Show more ]
EffOrt 302
Mini 258
Soma 206
Snow 195
ZerO 188
JYJ 179
ggaemo 139
PianO 127
Sharp 125
Soulkey 101
hero 88
Pusan 78
Sea.KH 69
Rush 64
Mind 61
Backho 48
Mong 42
Yoon 35
Shuttle 32
ToSsGirL 26
Shine 25
GoRush 24
Free 23
910 19
Aegong 19
HiyA 18
Shinee 17
sorry 16
Bale 16
Noble 15
soO 15
Movie 14
SilentControl 11
Icarus 7
Dota 2
XcaliburYe152
NeuroSwarm121
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1842
shoxiejesuss1256
byalli851
x6flipin580
allub276
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King149
Other Games
singsing1937
B2W.Neo495
crisheroes288
Pyrionflax167
Sick151
Livibee58
ZerO(Twitch)14
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 1525
CasterMuse 26
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 80
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 8
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV14
League of Legends
• Nemesis9898
• Jankos1716
Upcoming Events
Monday Night Weeklies
4h 22m
Replay Cast
11h 22m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
21h 22m
LiuLi Cup
22h 22m
Reynor vs Creator
Maru vs Lambo
PiGosaur Monday
1d 12h
Replay Cast
1d 20h
LiuLi Cup
1d 22h
Clem vs Rogue
SHIN vs Cyan
The PondCast
2 days
KCM Race Survival
2 days
LiuLi Cup
2 days
Scarlett vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs herO
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Online Event
3 days
LiuLi Cup
3 days
Serral vs Zoun
Cure vs Classic
RSL Revival
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
LiuLi Cup
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
LiuLi Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
LiuLi Cup
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Rongyi Cup S3
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W8
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
WardiTV Winter 2026
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.