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dronelord
Profile Joined August 2010
Singapore42 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-19 21:26:45
September 19 2010 21:18 GMT
#1
Hi guys , recently I've been playing lots of games and I finally met this player . Okay I'd like to point out one thing , I'm actually quite annoyed that there are terran players out there crying that Zerg actually is imbalanced compared to how imbalanced Terran is . Personally , if he wasn't that noisy and talkative , I wouldn't really care but what really annoyed me is that he was being a bitch throughout the entire game . I'd like to know also if you guys can help me out by pointing out what are my mistakes and what I need to beat that army . I think I was contained too long and I should have taken an opportunity to expand as much as I can . But under the circumstances , I was playing pretty badly ... I think . Anyways , to get to the point , please watch the replay as I'd like to know what unit composition would I need to beat his army .


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Personally I think it was my mistake that I did not upgrade , I only managed to find out that he upgraded his armours and weapons almost at the end of the game . But other than that , what should I have done ?


P.S I am OmniZerg
RefleX746
Profile Joined August 2010
New Zealand96 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-19 21:43:37
September 19 2010 21:30 GMT
#2
I think you got trolled haha
actually i know for a fact you did get trolled lol
Flaunt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
New Zealand784 Posts
September 19 2010 21:31 GMT
#3
Wow. That terran player was amazing.
What? You seek something? You wish to multiply yourself tenfold, a hundredfold? You seek followers? Seek zeros!
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
September 19 2010 21:32 GMT
#4
Damn that's some epic BM.

I watched from his perspective while watched worker counts and thought you were going to get absolutely stomped in the big battle, so imo you did just fine with unit composition/control etc. You just got waaaaay outmacroed. Like 36 drones to 86 SCVs at big battle time...
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
September 19 2010 21:42 GMT
#5
As annoying as that guy might've been, he was prob just doing it to get a rise out of you, which I think he succeeded in doing. He atleast played very solid game, macroed pretty well, i liked his sim city too, his only flaw was his main attack(he ran to far in before sieging). What you could've done better was prob to not loose that first OL/not running your zlings back at ~5min in(you needed to know of that expo going up) and after that drone harder. When he's at like double income for the entire game there's pretty much no way to not loose.
reki-
Profile Joined July 2008
Netherlands327 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-19 21:44:32
September 19 2010 21:42 GMT
#6
Normally i don't post in these thread because i hardly play solo myself but what i would've done is add atleast one more hatchery, wouldn't have bothered with infestors and just try to outmacro him after the big battle with upgraded roaches. (Meaning just make a ton of roaches and go for his exp)

Also when you nydused the island expo why did you take the gold again for the 3rd time instead of the island epxo?

Purely theoretical view from my point tho : )
>BD
jimee
Profile Joined September 2010
7 Posts
September 19 2010 21:49 GMT
#7
yeah, serious trolling going on.

about unit composition, hard to say, guy outmacroed you. maybe some more zergling to deal with thor? on the other hand, tanks probably would deal with them. maybe more ultra?
jpaugh78
Profile Joined May 2010
United States179 Posts
September 19 2010 22:20 GMT
#8
On September 20 2010 06:49 jimee wrote:
yeah, serious trolling going on.

about unit composition, hard to say, guy outmacroed you. maybe some more zergling to deal with thor? on the other hand, tanks probably would deal with them. maybe more ultra?

I think he was making as much ultra as he could, on his limited amount of bases. The biggest issue was the Terran having such a larger income than him. You can't let the other person have more bases than you do as Zerg, or you're going to lose.
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
September 19 2010 22:27 GMT
#9
You'll lose as any race if you have under half their workers. It's not a Zerg thing.
CounteR
Profile Joined August 2010
New Zealand103 Posts
September 19 2010 22:56 GMT
#10
To be honest as a sc player you will probably find every race imbalanced as soon as you see someone better than you .. Its not really the "race" fault imo its just the player being better than you as soon as that happens you will pretty much feel that the opponents race is OP...
GG GL HF
dronelord
Profile Joined August 2010
Singapore42 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-19 22:59:05
September 19 2010 22:56 GMT
#11
Yeah I have to agree that I was contained way too long and he had more expansions than I did . But I felt that he was forcing me in and I couldn't do anything much about it . Also , he claimed that his one of the top SEA players , in top 10 . But he dare not say his real ID , he also claimed that , that was his friend's account that he was using to flame other people . *sigh* probably I'm playing too many games at one go . And it was probably my mistake that I tried to keep taking the gold expansion .. and the biggest mistake of all ..

@reki- I nydused the island expo to deal with his new expansion and try to deny him but I totally forgotten about that I could have taken that expansion , it was probably the easiest expansion .. at that point of time .
imaginationSEA
Profile Joined September 2010
2 Posts
September 20 2010 02:07 GMT
#12
So sorry about this, my friend thought it would be a joke hopping on my account and flaming someone.
I myself is a very bad player, about 900 Diamond points on SEA,and yes i can comfirm that it was not me that played you, but some asswipe. Yeah, i think he is in the top10 SEA players.
And yes, you have my apology.
You should delete this post and stop embarrasing me. Thanks.

PS: You gotta admit that trollin was pretty funny LOL.
OdinPimphammer
Profile Joined August 2010
Afghanistan40 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-20 02:50:18
September 20 2010 02:46 GMT
#13
"My friend" ahahaha, shut up man.

"Your friend" is top 10 and feels the need to belittle other players like a child? You and "your friend" are pathetic. One, you give your friends your account password, typical no-brain behavior, something that even my Grandma knows not to do. Second, you are lying anyway about "your friend" so just suck it up and admit you are a low-life and save some face.
dronelord
Profile Joined August 2010
Singapore42 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-20 02:51:56
September 20 2010 02:48 GMT
#14
On September 20 2010 11:07 imaginationSEA wrote:
So sorry about this, my friend thought it would be a joke hopping on my account and flaming someone.
I myself is a very bad player, about 900 Diamond points on SEA,and yes i can comfirm that it was not me that played you, but some asswipe. Yeah, i think he is in the top10 SEA players.
And yes, you have my apology.
You should delete this post and stop embarrasing me. Thanks.

PS: You gotta admit that trollin was pretty funny LOL.


Sorry but your story does not convince me at all . 'Your friend' hops on to your account and you call him 'some asswipe' and then .. 'I think he is in top 10...' . Are you sure you have a 'friend' here ? I'm pretty much damn sure that you are playing as a 2 person here . And if it's an apology , I'd like it to be a sincere one . Otherwise , I have enough of your bullshit . END OF STORY , don't bother replying anymore cause I don't have any room of symphatizing with you .

P.S This is not really about you , I'd like to know what unit composition would be best to deal with your army and what went wrong on my side . IF you feel so offended , why troll then ?

EDIT : Also , to add on ...'the troll was pretty funny ' ? Are you seriously apologising here ?

Oh and guess what ? You just registered a new account to hide your real account here in TL so that you can get away with your troll ? Nice try , you registered after finding out the post huh ..cool ..
imaginationSEA
Profile Joined September 2010
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-20 03:09:30
September 20 2010 03:08 GMT
#15
LOL OK.
DONT BELIEVE ME THEN.
SUCK IT BITCHES.
FEED ME MORE HATE.
I LKE I LIKE>!!

User was banned for this post.
SwampZero
Profile Joined September 2010
Greece350 Posts
September 20 2010 03:51 GMT
#16
On September 20 2010 12:08 imaginationSEA wrote:
LOL OK.
DONT BELIEVE ME THEN.
SUCK IT BITCHES.
FEED ME MORE HATE.
I LKE I LIKE>!!

straight up
stroggos
Profile Joined February 2009
New Zealand1543 Posts
September 20 2010 03:52 GMT
#17
On September 20 2010 07:27 Yaotzin wrote:
You'll lose as any race if you have under half their workers. It's not a Zerg thing.


terran beats me when i have twice as many workers. Mule hurr durrr
hi
RefleX746
Profile Joined August 2010
New Zealand96 Posts
September 20 2010 03:54 GMT
#18
On September 20 2010 12:08 imaginationSEA wrote:
LOL OK.
DONT BELIEVE ME THEN.
SUCK IT BITCHES.
FEED ME MORE HATE.
I LKE I LIKE>!!


Nicely played in that game. I liked your use of badmanner to mess with your opponents mind which affected his gameplay. Good strategy.
Meff
Profile Joined June 2010
Italy287 Posts
September 20 2010 04:28 GMT
#19
On September 20 2010 12:54 RefleX746 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2010 12:08 imaginationSEA wrote:
LOL OK.
DONT BELIEVE ME THEN.
SUCK IT BITCHES.
FEED ME MORE HATE.
I LKE I LIKE>!!


Nicely played in that game. I liked your use of badmanner to mess with your opponents mind which affected his gameplay. Good strategy.

I don't know, it's hard-countered by clicking in the upper-right corner and muting him
DJiGGs
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada24 Posts
September 20 2010 04:43 GMT
#20
take a look at this replay

im Zerg vs a Terran and i win (no rush, pretty decent length game)

Zerg vs Terran
Hell It's About Time
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-20 05:12:11
September 20 2010 04:45 GMT
#21
What's the point of this thread? If you watched your own replay you would see you were totally outclassed. No unit composition is going to help you when you get outexpanded and outmacroed by a Terran.

You say you were contained but the only pressure up until 15 minutes in were a couple of hellions. You could've droned like crazy and expanded after the Terran took his second base. Instead you suicided lings and muta's into his solid defenses.

At the 9:30 mark he has 40 workers on 2 base versus your 25 workers on 2 base and he hasn't even attacked you up until this point. You have cut ridiculous amounts of drones to get lots of gas in order to support a super fast ling speed and +1 attack even though they are useless against his defensive factory play. Then you get roaches and fast roach burrow and then you fast-tech to lair and get a fast spire to attack with fast muta's.

20 minutes into the game and the only agression your opponent has done is to deny your gold expansion. He's on three bases to your two and has 81 workers to your 37. You continue to try and get EVERYTHING possible: a Nydus Network, Infestors with Neural Parasite, 2 base Ultra with upgrades. You lost yourself the game, rather than your opponent winning it. You were trying to do everything cutesy in the galaxy and he ended up killing you with just having a lot more stuff and economy, Zerg vs. Terran reversed.

I think your play should be a bit more economically centered, cut all that gimmicky stuff. On Scrap you can easily go 15Hatch, 14-pool but you go 14 pool with gas and a very early evo chamber and then expand, giving you a crappy economy and a useless early attack upgrade.
I think esports is pretty nice.
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
September 20 2010 04:55 GMT
#22
Locking. Compose your threads better (including a non-misleading title) if you are seeking assistance.
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