                  Name AE Viper Pit
                  Version 1.0 (28/10/2013)
                  Bounds 134x146
                  Bases 12 Normal Yield
                  Rush Distances 62 seconds (main)
                  Rush Distances 44 seconds (natural)

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Change Log

                        v1.1
                               Middle opened up.
                               Pathing at rocks fixed.
                               Minor doodad work.

Yonnua

United Kingdom2331 Posts

October 28 2013 14:31 GMT

This is a really sick map!

Qikz

United Kingdom12024 Posts

October 28 2013 14:32 GMT

For a name like this you're really missing Neutral blinding clouds :p

IeZaeL

Italy991 Posts

October 28 2013 14:45 GMT

This is some very high quality maps ... i really love your minimalistic style

Wish this and Graveside will get into top7 of RedBull tlmc :D

Aunvilgod

2653 Posts

October 28 2013 15:09 GMT

Hmm that 3rd looks extremely safe. Will lead to a very passive early game imo. Apart from that it looks fairly standard.

I think you should use more doodads since you are so good with them.

opisska

Poland8852 Posts

October 28 2013 15:29 GMT

On October 29 2013 00:09 Aunvilgod wrote:
I think you should use more doodads since you are so good with them.

No. This map is the polar oposite: it shows that a nice high quality map with full aesthetics can be done with a reasonable amount of doodads. That's what mapmakers need to learn, so that the game stays playable on slow hardware. With a couple of recent patches, it got significantly slower on many setups, so this is now again a strong concern, even though there were 3 years of HW growth since launch (and thus at some stage it looked like it is gonna run on everything smoothly).

a176

Canada6688 Posts

October 28 2013 17:07 GMT

really like this.

only comment is to open up the middle a bit more, is a bit chokey.

Aunvilgod

2653 Posts

October 28 2013 17:18 GMT

On October 29 2013 00:29 opisska wrote:

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I don't think there are any problems on reasonably old hardware. The amount of players playing on such old hardware that it can't handle this game should be diminishing. But electra not using many doodads just feels like a waste of talent.

ObviousOne

United States3704 Posts

October 28 2013 18:44 GMT

This map makes overlords happy! <3

Norx81

Germany5 Posts

October 28 2013 19:33 GMT

#10

Nice job again eTcetRa. Like the layout as well as the aesthetics. Good luck in the map contest.

EatThePath

United States3943 Posts

October 28 2013 20:19 GMT

#11

Really cool map, but 3 bases seems far too easy with no real way to punish it without blind all in choice. I wish the lowground clump of doodad rocks was destructible rocks instead so there were 3 ways into the nat/3rd areas. Also the 3rd CC location is very choked = easy to attack with forcefield based armies.

Should make interesting games nonetheless, the routes are great.

ObviousOne

United States3704 Posts

October 28 2013 20:33 GMT

#12

Found an issue with the rocks outside the third(?) at the 7 o'clock position. It seems units can pass right through it!

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EatThePath

United States3943 Posts

October 28 2013 21:00 GMT

#13

^
that looks like a doodad footprint issue

Antares777

United States1971 Posts

October 28 2013 21:15 GMT

#14

Nice map, I like the third layout. It's safer early game, but if those rocks go down early, players can be really aggressive. It's well designed.

I would open the middle up a bit, I think it is too choked.

eTcetRa

Australia822 Posts

October 29 2013 00:19 GMT

#15

On October 29 2013 05:33 ObviousOne wrote:
Found an issue with the rocks outside the third(?) at the 7 o'clock position. It seems units can pass right through it!

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Oh dear looks like I placed a pathing blocker wrong! Shall fix when I update the middle!

NewSunshine

United States5938 Posts

October 29 2013 00:31 GMT

#16

On October 29 2013 09:19 eTcetRa wrote:

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Oh dear looks like I placed a pathing blocker wrong! Shall fix when I update the middle!

lol, Obvious

ObviousOne

United States3704 Posts

October 29 2013 00:33 GMT

#17

On October 29 2013 09:31 NewSunshine wrote:

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lol, Obvious

my work here is done!

eTcetRa

Australia822 Posts

October 29 2013 11:47 GMT

#18

Okay fixed that issue and opened the middle up just a little

                        v1.1
                               Middle opened up.
                               Pathing at rocks fixed.
                               Minor doodad work.

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a176

Canada6688 Posts

November 02 2013 18:02 GMT

#19

I really would much preferred this map to be in TLMC. The layout isnt as confusing as graveside, the baseflow is much more natural, and all in all is generally better for army movement.

EatThePath

United States3943 Posts

November 02 2013 18:35 GMT

#20

^ Those are exactly the opposite reasons why I like graveside better, much more interesting map imo.

eTcetRa

Australia822 Posts

June 21 2014 12:48 GMT

#21

Updated version with the natural / thirds changed.

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moskonia

Israel1448 Posts

June 21 2014 12:53 GMT

#22

3rd's are a bit hard, and there is a lot of surface area for blink-allins. IMO you should put a ramp with rocks in the nat so that the horizontal 3rd is a valid option.

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