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EatThePath
United States3943 Posts
On September 12 2012 08:04 Praetorial wrote: This map has too much open space, fill in everything past the naturals with rocks Seriously, the name promises a huge sink filled with rocks. | ||
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Fatam
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GenesisX
Canada4267 Posts
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FlaShFTW
United States10290 Posts
i apologize. your map name is misleading. | ||
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Fatam
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Fatam
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Xapti
Canada2473 Posts
Horizontal spawns just seems to be way too much of a problem. Also is that rock wall in the middle solid aside from the ends which are destructible, or are there some holes? I'd say there should be holes. The overall look of the center just seems really weird, and the distance of the rock wall before destructible rocks seems a bit too long. | ||
digmouse
China6330 Posts
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Fatam
1986 Posts
On September 12 2012 19:00 Xapti wrote: The map should be Shakuras Plateau—style spawns (rotated 90°) Horizontal spawns just seems to be way too much of a problem. Also is that rock wall in the middle solid aside from the ends which are destructible, or are there some holes? I'd say there should be holes. The overall look of the center just seems really weird, and the distance of the rock wall before destructible rocks seems a bit too long. Thanks for the comments. I am ok with making it just 2 out of the 3 possible spawns allowed a la shakura's or tourney version entombed. As long as 2 of the 3 are balanced, I'm happy (ofc I'd like it to be all 3, but -no one- seems to be able to pull that off just yet, despite attempts by all skill-levels of mapmakers). When you have a 4 player map where only cross-spawn works, there's no longer any point, since at that point it is just a less-interesting 2 player map. The walls - there are holes that you can see and shoot through, but not any that you can -walk- through. It is a unique thing, no doubt, and maybe it looks a little weird from an overview perspective, but gameplay-wise I'm not convinced there needs to be any pathable holes made. a) It's really not that far to go around the wall on either side. It's similar to Entombed Valley in this respect, except that the path around is actually shorter here, just the width of it makes it look long. b) if you were to make pathable holes in the wall the rush distance for vert. spawns would be too short. I think I -will- get rid of the rocks on the outside path though. It's probably unnecessary punishment, i.e. players should be rewarded not punished for using the sneaky attack route. | ||
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Fatam
1986 Posts
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Hiea
Denmark1538 Posts
If you get a TvZ with horizontal spawns, I don't see how zerg can possible stop a 2base marine/siege tank/medivac all in, because you can lift your units in medivacs and abuse the hell out of the high ground, (You don't kill your natural's rocks). And if the colossus/reaper path is able to get siege tanks up on via a medivac, it get's even harder and zerg will mostly be forced into mutalisk with those spawn positions. I would suggest maybe moving the naturals a little further back for those spawns. | ||
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Fatam
1986 Posts
On September 13 2012 18:22 Hiea wrote: This map looks like it could be really good, despite the excessive use of rocks, the one problem I have right now is horizontal spawns. If you get a TvZ with horizontal spawns, I don't see how zerg can possible stop a 2base marine/siege tank/medivac all in, because you can lift your units in medivacs and abuse the hell out of the high ground, (You don't kill your natural's rocks). And if the colossus/reaper path is able to get siege tanks up on via a medivac, it get's even harder and zerg will mostly be forced into mutalisk with those spawn positions. I would suggest maybe moving the naturals a little further back for those spawns. Thanks for the input. I'm not exactly sure which highground you mean. The highground inbetween the nat and the 3rd is unpathable - it's just there to create chokes and be an overlord spot. Maybe I need to put some doodads (rocks/trees/w.e) there to make that more clear. About the other side of the natural, I'm not 100% clear what you meant by the abuse of the reaper/colossus spot with tanks but I'll make a drawing with some distances and maybe that will clarify things. Hopefully I'm not missing what you're saying here. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/U9AId.jpg) | ||
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Fatam
1986 Posts
Aesthetics: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/T0pto.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/WHTsS.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/AHURt.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/G9gTf.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/K2oEb.jpg) A reaper path! Or colossus harass if you're ballsy. I also disabled horizontal spawns, which addressed the main balance issue of the map. | ||
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Clbull
United Kingdom1439 Posts
On September 11 2012 18:00 Superouman wrote: Your map feels incomplete ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/FjBbZ.jpg) ME GUSTA!! No really, I would like to see a more macro-oriented version of this in the ESV Koreanvoice Weekly's map pool. | ||
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snively
United States1159 Posts
but the rock jokes are pretty funny too | ||
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Fatam
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gronnelg
Norway354 Posts
How is the balance? I'll have to try it out! | ||
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