Hm I don't know if I like some of these changes, most of them seem geared towards making the map easier to play for certain races and more 'typical' in its layout. The third (bottom expo) is now extremely easy to take with how much closer it is and how easy it is to wall. The fourth is also not much more difficult now that you've added those rocks that can be used to make siege lines/forcefields around.

Also regarding the openness of the map, with the added trees and rocks you have taken away a lot of the asymmetry of the central area that the original map had, here's a diagram to show you exactly what I mean.

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Note the very open red areas and contrastingly less open yellow areas, where on the new version it is all around the same amount of openness. In my opinion you should remove the rocks at the top left and bottom right to keep that asymmetry. This would also have the added bonus of making that fourth base a little harder to take as in my opinion it should be being a fourth base.

I do like the map overall but in my opinion you should try to find some middle ground between old and new, such as I've mentioned with removing those rocks near the 4th to keep the openness and asymmetry of the old map. Good effort though and I appreciate your ability to continually update your map to the best interest of the community.

IronManSC

United States2119 Posts

December 19 2011 07:16 GMT

#23

Xeno I have no idea what the hell you're talking about ^^ I also think you're getting confused between the two maps.

XenoX101

Australia729 Posts

December 19 2011 07:30 GMT

#24

Oops sorry I meant the bottom expo 3rd not the green grass expo, it is extremely easy to take because its very close to the nat and can be walled off with just a few buildings.

IronManSC

United States2119 Posts

December 20 2011 06:56 GMT

#25

Ohana RE uploaded officially from 0.3 to 1.0. Bugs were fixed in regards to pathing.

EDIT: Aesthetics pictures are now added!

Yoshi Kirishima

United States10380 Posts

December 20 2011 07:19 GMT

#26

nice :D this is a beautiful map and isn't a pain to learn (where do i expand???)

would love to see this in the ladder

IronManSC

United States2119 Posts

December 20 2011 07:26 GMT

#27

On December 20 2011 16:19 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
nice :D this is a beautiful map and isn't a pain to learn (where do i expand???)

Oh good

On December 20 2011 16:19 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
would love to see this in the ladder

If you see it in ladder, it will probably be the original version, not the RE one

Although it's possible that Ohana RE will be used by NASL in season 3.

Diamond

United States10796 Posts

December 20 2011 07:48 GMT

#28

Just want to say this may be the most well done map out there from an aesthetics standpoint, really well done IronMan

IronManSC

United States2119 Posts

December 20 2011 07:50 GMT

#29

On December 20 2011 16:48 Diamond wrote:
Just want to say this may be the most well done map out there from an aesthetics standpoint, really well done IronMan

Thanks ^^ What can I say, I love nature! Which goes to explain why I will never make city maps

Yoshi Kirishima

United States10380 Posts

December 20 2011 09:05 GMT

#30

Oh I just noticed this is RE not the original, which was submitted to the TL contest.

Hm well the original looks fine to me, though just from first looks it does look like the third is on the harder side of being able to defend it well.

Sort of sucks you had to redo so much for NASL, especially the aesthetics xD but hopefully they'll accept it and I hope that can satisfy you :D

Bugz

Denmark14 Posts

December 20 2011 17:15 GMT

#31

This map is great, i really like the changes.

IronManSC

United States2119 Posts

January 02 2012 22:55 GMT

#32

Map updated.

Since I am on ESV now, this map was previously known as TPW Ohana, but it has been changed to ESV Ohana RE and is published on NA as such.

chocolatebunny

301 Posts

January 03 2012 01:57 GMT

#33

Do you know when you'll find out if this map makes it into the NASL season 3 mappool?

IronManSC

United States2119 Posts

January 17 2012 01:09 GMT

#34

On January 03 2012 10:57 chocolatebunny wrote:
Do you know when you'll find out if this map makes it into the NASL season 3 mappool?

It has been included in the NASTL, but I don't know about season 3 just yet.

It has also been included in the ESV Korean Weekly.

Andreas

Norway214 Posts

January 30 2012 10:28 GMT

#35

Will this be published on EU anytime soon?

IronManSC

United States2119 Posts

January 30 2012 20:54 GMT

#36

On January 30 2012 19:28 Andreas wrote:
Will this be published on EU anytime soon?

I will make sure this gets to EU within 1-2 days

Thanks for the heads up!

IronManSC

United States2119 Posts

February 02 2012 20:41 GMT

#37

Ohana RE has been published to EU!

Map is available for play on the following servers: NA, EU, KR

Enjoy! Always looking for feedback

IronManSC

United States2119 Posts

February 09 2012 00:17 GMT

#38

ESV Ohana RE has been updated and is now published as 1.2. This is the final version as far as I'm concerned.

1.2 published on NA, EU, and KR.

1.2 Changes:

• Doodads, islands, cliffs, and variance of the height tool around the map borders have been completely removed. For one, you can't see them in-game anyways, and two, they caused a number of graphic and performance issues for players, so this should reduce that.

• All low-ground bases have been slightly re-designed and have had the water removed from behind the mineral lines. This caused too much confusion for players not knowing what the pathable areas were.

• The main bases and naturals have had their heights altered. They were sloped too much and were not flat. They have been fixed.

IronManSC

United States2119 Posts

February 09 2012 07:03 GMT

#39

I know I mentioned the "final version" in my previous post but I would like to announce that there will be one more major update to Ohana and then it will be finalized. I plan on streaming the next Ohana changes soon on ESV.TV when I get the chance.

bananajk

Germany92 Posts

February 10 2012 13:09 GMT

#40

I hope it comes in the mappool real quickly so we can play it this season on ladder, because than the mappool would have just an other great map. Good work, thx.

mfg banana