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On October 26 2011 14:02 Asday wrote:
FIIIIIIIIIIINE, I'll try and make something.
Gonna try and make the viper. Stuff like removing overseers and carriers 'n' shit will be easy, so I'll do that too.
Ok, I wanna know some things: I saw the Shredder doesn't deactivate in range of other deployed shredders; does the shredding stack? If so, is it a normal attack reducable by armour? If so if so, what's its duration?
Shredding doesn't stack. "Magic" damage in SC2 ignores armour, and radiation seems pretty "magical" to me. Doesn't have a duration. Probably applies a non-stacking behaviour which deals damage every 0.5s (Blizzard seem to use this for most of their dots).
All guesses.
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For the shredder I would use a self targetting 'channeling' razorstorm animation, in .5 ticks, and then use a trigger for on/off. Idk triggers though so, someone else can build that :D
And a thought for viper's blinding cloud is irradiation's animation.
Please share your stuff eh? And post what it's called? I like learning the editor... :D
btw : xzjatx.526 feel free to msg me or add as friend, test, chat, w/e.
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If anyone would want to blast some marines with replicated tanks feel free to try out this map:
http://www.mediafire.com/?mdg2zkjsc2kxx5m
Edit:
Since it all is just for fun I added my Replicants mod into Metalopolis. Search for "Ducks Metalopolis" on EU. Replicants do pretty much everything they're supposed to do and in in addition they can copy spell units (mules, changelings and inf. terrans ->just for fun).
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Heh, I guess we will have a collection of maps in the end. Can a mod rename this thread to:
'HotS Mod Maps List'
or something more appropriate.
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On October 26 2011 13:07 ZJAT wrote:It's terrible... imo. War hound does 50% dmg to armored, also the hellion battle mode... is well not visual, but yes it works pretty well. Idk about it requiring an extra tech, can you link that info? Or did you go to blizzcon / have a good source? Hydras are broken, banelings don't work... (I have both these fixed, but not uploaded) Soooo... yeah... Working on it, but abilities are my weakness. There is another HotS mod uploaded to bnet, and it's public... I will be using it to see how to do some stuff, it's got most of the spells, but some dmg's are missing on stuff. {e} http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/general/team-recruitment/27450-heart-of-the-swarm-community-created-melee-gameApparently we aren't the only ones ^
Yea, i meant your map lol, obv the HotS demo is pretty bad rofl. As for the battlemode upgrade, i just assumed there was one. It just seemed kind of odd to have BF upgrade give both BF and battlemode, but I wasn't at Blizzcon so I don't know for sure.
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From what I've heard from people that went to blizzcon, lot's of things actually didn't require anything. The battle hellion was free like the viking morph, the warhound required nothing but the factory... So I'm making some basic assumptions that these are either wrong, or were made that way for testing at blizzcon. While other things like baneling burrow move, was mentioned in actual articles as requiring hive tech. I'm just doing my best to get everything set up. I do know that the BFH and the battle bot have the same damage 8+11, so I went with a basic idea of it requiring the ignite for prevention of unrealistic timing advantage.
However, if you find out more, post it!
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remember to puplish on EU if you can! - This is awesome indeed!
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Oh boy. My map is almost functionally complete, in addition to being aesthetically embarrassing. You can find it on NA Bnet under the name "HotS in WoL - Tal'Darim Altar." Be warned - I abandoned the data editor a few hours in.
Currently, it's missing
1) Attackable Entomb fields
2) Baneling Burrowed Movement
3) Preordain for Zerg units - as well as a decent method for relaying Preordain information - currently it just puts a tiny, neutral "token" unit on the ground. Usage for Preordain is also suboptimal - the Oracle must be in melee range of the target structure - not sure why, because it's clear that the spell has range.
4) Proper spell effects
5) In some places, proper unit statistics
6) Rally point for the Swarm Host
7) BC Sprint
The Replicant works perfectly - as far as I can tell. Phase Shift denies tech as intended, though it also cancels research.
I've been learning the editor as I go. Apparently I don't understand Actors at all, because I've been unable to apply any sort of spell effect to my spells. The fact that I can't get Baneling Burrowed movement to work bewilders me - none of my additions to Baneling (Burrowed) are appearing in game. There seems to be something very different about the implementation of the Roach's burrowed form and that of the Baneling.
I'll see what I can do in a bit, try to add a missile to Abduct etc.
Edit: It just occurred to me that most of my triggers only work if the caster is Player 1. Ouch. I'll fix that.
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Tetl, I figured this out last night, I used your mod as a reference point post publishing mine. (I found yours while testing mine on bnet), and noticed immediately... that you abandoned the data editor. And that's where most of my strengths currently lie.
For burrowed movement, you have to change the baneling (burrowed) movement to the same as burrowed roaches. It's in some pathing type area or something. Works perfectly on my unpublished version atm.
I like what you have done, but prefer to use the data editor as much as possible, knowing little to nothing about triggers in wc3 and less about them in sc2.
As a note... I plan to implement something into my map that is not part of hots...but I love carriers... so... you'll see when I enable them (maybe today for fun)
Oh PS. To find my mod or his mod, type 'hots' and they both will show up. This is how I originally found his mod - looking for my own.
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it already exists, it's called, "sc2 broodwar"
User was warned for this post
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can you maybe upload the map to some sharing site if you are unable to puplish on EU? I would love to test it out and give feedback, and i cant build stuff like this my self.
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On October 27 2011 06:09 TheOGBlitzKrieg wrote:
it already exists, it's called, "sc2 broodwar"
... did you even read the OP?
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Elviyn, The damage is 20 DPS for the shredders, if you go over the data we collected earlier, you should notice that^^.
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On October 27 2011 04:32 ZJAT wrote:
Tetl, I figured this out last night, I used your mod as a reference point post publishing mine. (I found yours while testing mine on bnet), and noticed immediately... that you abandoned the data editor. And that's where most of my strengths currently lie.
For burrowed movement, you have to change the baneling (burrowed) movement to the same as burrowed roaches. It's in some pathing type area or something. Works perfectly on my unpublished version atm.
I like what you have done, but prefer to use the data editor as much as possible, knowing little to nothing about triggers in wc3 and less about them in sc2.
As a note... I plan to implement something into my map that is not part of hots...but I love carriers... so... you'll see when I enable them (maybe today for fun)
Oh PS. To find my mod or his mod, type 'hots' and they both will show up. This is how I originally found his mod - looking for my own.
I just played both your map and Tetl's. Your's is the on on Xel Naga right? I couldn't get the burrowed banelings to move.
Also, the Hydra speed upgrade is hilariously broken. It makes your Hydra's literally "creep" on creep. Like..... they don't move at all. You can faintly see them moving a fraction of a space. Pretty funny to watch lol. I had to use Ovie's to load them up and take them off the creep. Once I did that they were fast as hell! I Like!
Tetl. I also couldn't get the burrowed banelings working on your map. The Swarm host was dope and extremely OP, but you have to target fire with it since it doesn't auto-fire currently. I think the amount of zerglings spawned need to be nerfed or their HP lowered or something.
I positioned the Viper over water/air on TalDarim and tried grabbing a Hellion. It completely disappeared when I used the grab spell since I was over water/air.
Only tried out Zerg so far but damn good job to both of you guys! Great work!
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Yeah, I know, I needed to re-publish. Hopefully banelings and hydras are working now.
I can't publish from home, so updates from me might be slow, as in the one I just uploaded 5 minutes ago, will be my last til monday or tuesday.
Okay, republishing atm. The one a few minutes ago works for banelings and hydras. Ultraslisks now should work also, however, I'm not sure if their pathing is going to change, I think it should, but they won't burrow+charge yet.
What I think it should do based on what I've done with zealot charge is: charge from farther away than a zealot would, and (hopefully) turn off ultra's normal pathing during the charge.
Although I post often, I can't publish or work on it that often, so hopefully what I Can do is useful :D
{e}My head is spinning... it's been one of those days...
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/lm7e8/a_complete_list_of_all_multiplayer_hots/
http://sc2armory.com/forums/topic/23069
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=278713
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/3430935454
If those aren't posted, they are now.
{e} wow.. pls ignore my map's name is znc and not xnc.. lol, typo >_<
To the OP... Not all units are added, just most non-casters have been modified.
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Dominator, I think how it blizzard would make it work in the end is just drag the unit as far to the cliff as it would normally go, then just stop.
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If this map work perfectly, we'll not need to buy the expansion! Yopi
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i cant find the Z units for HOTS on his map...?
it only shows the basic units...?
Zjats map that is.
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I haven't added everything.
Most of what I'm adding is the 'easy' data editor stuff. Working on a thor right now. SCV builds/pilots thor hehe. (I never saw word if it was actually built from the factory)
600/300 is the cost I have pieced together - damage is 65x2 (this sounds ridiculously high), and 330 barrage is his spell. 125 energy, 12 seconds 41 dps AOE (Storm is 20).
I also have an extremely basic ultralisk charge, however it inconsistent, and although range is set to 9, it still doesn't work until the unit is attacked... w/e... it's jerry-rigged.
These comments are Non-published.
Trying to publish, if it works it'll be a dice roll... but if it does check out the following units:
Ultra
Thor
Mommaship (yes I know she's being removed...)
*ugh it's not gonna upload, crappy net... but in the mean time you can head over to 'zjats balance [mod]' thread. This is the origin of where I learned to use the editor... I'm still pretty newb.
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