EPTI've done the whole Copy>flip>Paste thing, but it's extremely hard to make it paste in the right spot.
Is there an easier way?
[H] Easy way to make your map symmetric.
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dar5283
United States65 Posts
I've done the whole Copy>flip>Paste thing, but it's extremely hard to make it paste in the right spot. Is there an easier way? | ||
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
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EffectS
Belgium795 Posts
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LunaSaint
United Kingdom620 Posts
My personal suggestion is to copypasta small regions, and fill in the less detailed parts by hand. It's a lot easier to copy small chunks over unless you know the exact dimensions of the area you're copying. Usually when I'm designing a map to be reflected halves/quadrants, I find the exact centre of the map and mark the precise line. | ||
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dar5283
United States65 Posts
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
On August 09 2011 07:52 LunaSaint wrote: Pretty much. My personal suggestion is to copypasta small regions, and fill in the less detailed parts by hand. It's a lot easier to copy small chunks over unless you know the exact dimensions of the area you're copying. Usually when I'm designing a map to be reflected halves/quadrants, I find the exact centre of the map and mark the precise line. yeah, this. I usually put a pylon down in the exact center of my map to make getting symmetry easier | ||
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IronManSC
United States2119 Posts
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SnowK
United States245 Posts
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Grebliv
Iceland800 Posts
later on you can just use previously copied terrain as a reference point and the "patch" becomes unnecessary. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/hPcEV.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/0ELZm.jpg) took about 20 sec to make that map from selecting dimensions. you can do other symmetry easily as well + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/X5h4n.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/cb2hN.jpg) just be prepared to spam ctrl-z and ctrl-v plus the rotating/flipping shortcuts a lot. | ||
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WniO
United States2706 Posts
follow my directions instead + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/kp0il.jpg) first make a grid the size of your map with square raised terrain. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/2tgD5.jpg) then fill in or remove squares on both sides to start ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/YGMTl.jpg) continue doing so, (and save a bunch of stages in case you need to redo or look back) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/jzX2z.jpg) then carefully carve and sculpt your masterpiece. your welcome. | ||
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Randomaccount#77123
United States5003 Posts
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EatThePath
United States3943 Posts
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RumbleBadger
322 Posts
For the by hand method, though, go to view>grid>small and then you can see exactly where the other half needs to go. Also, make sure that you leave more open area at the top (or cut it out using map>map bounds) because there is a larger unplayable area at the top. Test where it is by trying to place minerals places and seeing where they turn red. Make half the map (approx, if you go over it's fine, just make sure the it's mirrored using the grid method). Make sure you are in the terrain layer and then copy that half of the map. Hit ctrl+v then go to edit>rotate>180degrees. Now zoom waaaay out so you can almost see the entire map. While moving where you are pasting around, you should see a large blue outline of a box. That's where you will be pasting. Line it up with the line of symmetry (the top edge of where you copied from) and line it up with the edges. Click and voila! a symmetrical map. Hope it helps... I should just make a video tutorial sometime.... | ||
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + No, listen to them | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10366 Posts
i thought an iccup guide explained how to do that | ||
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Kanil
United States1713 Posts
On August 09 2011 13:47 iGrok wrote: DON'T LISTEN TO THESE GUISE! What you need to do is not make symmetric maps! Everyone knows symmetric maps are bad. + Show Spoiler + No, listen to them This guy knows what he's talking about. When was the last time you saw a symmetric map in the ladder pool? If you want to get noticed by Blizzard, you gotta make stuff to their standards. | ||
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
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ihasaKAROT
Netherlands4730 Posts
To get that to work , you have to start your map by making 1 pool and take it from there. Its hard  But doable.edit: this mostly counts for water in your map on lets say highgrounds or raised pools (see world tree for example) | ||
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IronManSC
United States2119 Posts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vOHYFZpgG0 | ||
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
On August 09 2011 15:39 IronManSC wrote: WOW, some of u guys completely ignored the video.. here i'll post it again, it's practically talking all about copy/paste/rotation of terrain that so many of you are mentioning, yet i'm actually showing it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vOHYFZpgG0 And I shall quote for emphasis. | ||
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Samro225am
Germany982 Posts
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RumbleBadger
322 Posts
On August 09 2011 15:39 IronManSC wrote: WOW, some of u guys completely ignored the video.. here i'll post it again, it's practically talking all about copy/paste/rotation of terrain that so many of you are mentioning, yet i'm actually showing it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vOHYFZpgG0 This is a great video (very nice job =D), but there's a few points I want to make. First of all, you don't have to copy it before letting go of the mouse. It will copy the highlighted green area after you let go, too. Either way works, so it doesn't really matter, but I just wanted to clarify. Also, in the video you always pasted and then rotated. You can hit ctrl+v, then before you click anywhere go to edit>rotate>180degrees and then click and it will already be rotated. This really helps when flipping the map around because you can line it up exactly and then click and you won't have any of those lines in the center like in the tut. Overall, very nice tut though. Very easy to follow and great for an aspiring mapper. =D | ||
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EatThePath
United States3943 Posts
On August 11 2011 13:18 RumbleBadger wrote: This is a great video (very nice job =D), but there's a few points I want to make. First of all, you don't have to copy it before letting go of the mouse. It will copy the highlighted green area after you let go, too. Either way works, so it doesn't really matter, but I just wanted to clarify. Also, in the video you always pasted and then rotated. You can hit ctrl+v, then before you click anywhere go to edit>rotate>180degrees and then click and it will already be rotated. This really helps when flipping the map around because you can line it up exactly and then click and you won't have any of those lines in the center like in the tut. Overall, very nice tut though. Very easy to follow and great for an aspiring mapper. =D Also note that you can ctrl+v for paste, then flip / rotate using keyboard commands before pasting. This really streamlines your workflow when you have to do a map in sections because of shifted symmetry or territories that don't fit into rectangle selections, you can quickly ctrl+v, do your manipulation, click to place, ctrl+z if it wasn't right, repeat. If I'm not mistaken, number pad / and * are for rotate, and , and . are for flip | ||
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ihasaKAROT
Netherlands4730 Posts
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EatThePath
United States3943 Posts
On August 11 2011 17:17 ihasaKAROT wrote: Isnt it [alt + .] and [alt + ,] to flip? Or have I been using an overkill of alt-buttons lately? You're probably right, I haven't done it in a while. You can definitely check in the menus; it'll say the shortcut keys. =D | ||
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Ragoo
Germany2773 Posts
On August 09 2011 07:43 iGrok wrote: Use the grid while you're copying and pasting. Then just paste, ctrl+z, paste, ctrl+z, etc till its right. Its annoying but thats how to do it. That's correct. 1. Copy it. 2 Click "alt"+"," and "alt"+"." to rotate it and then paste and click at the approximately right spot. 3. Now keep the mouse cursor in exactly the spot you just pasted and ctrl+z to undo the pasting. 4. Paste, adjust your mouse cursor position a little bit in the right direction and click. 5. Do 1-4 until everything is right. It's just a lot of trial and error, but you just need to click some buttons fast and then this is really really fast and easy  The more annoying thing is replacing all those dumb broken ramps afterwards  | ||
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
On August 11 2011 21:10 Ragoo wrote: The more annoying thing is replacing all those dumb broken ramps afterwards Not entirely sure what the ramp thing's about, hope that gets fixed soon. It's still better than not being able to copy+paste though. | ||
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