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KevinIX
United States2472 Posts
On August 23 2011 13:44 Steel wrote: wow i played wc3 frozen throne customs for a very long time (until sc2 came out) and I never heard of this must of been not that amazing... That's because everything on WC3 is Dota or Dota. | ||
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SirMilford
Australia1269 Posts
On August 23 2011 13:55 KevinIX wrote: That's because everything on WC3 is Dota or Dota. You guys are full of shit, enfos was one of the most popular maps ever on warcraft 3, i doubt that you played as much as you think you did. Did you ever see footies? WMW? Green TD? | ||
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BlackMagister
United States5834 Posts
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aTak
Sweden69 Posts
On August 23 2011 13:37 BlackMagister wrote: Since the game is played on Hard in most games I guess the reason people usually play it on hard is that the waves in the beggining are to easy otherwise, and could get quite boring just waiting for the tougher ones. But I still wonder if that reason is really worth playing on hard when it clearly says (on MT), that the game only has been balanced for normal. Might also be that people don't really care when playing in random teams because nobody usually pick their hero depending on what the other players on their team pick (some do, but most don't), and that might just screw up to much of it anyway. And what was up with the EB3 some time back, seemed like every game I got they picked EB3 plus SB (seems nobody knew how to pool). Luckily that seems to have gone away now, pobably because only the more experienced players are still playing it. On another note, haven't seen anyone write what they would want to have in their "fantasy" Enfo for sc2. Nobody has some neat ideas? You guys just want a straight port from the MT edition? | ||
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BlackMagister
United States5834 Posts
As far as improving Enfos in SC2 there doesn't need to be any direct Enfo ported heroes, a few ideas could be inspired by Enfo maps but there is enough SC and possible original ideas to not need anything from the MT version. If I were to make the map I definitely would not include MT's bonus wave idea and would consider removing things like Combat Mastery and Evasion trying to balance tanks without evasion. I would remove Darkrift as most of the time it's a newb spell that can be countered too easily by one player who knows what they're doing with purification before the summons can be sheared. Even if the summons are sheared two purification by two good players nullifies sheared summons. There also is the problem of summoning weak waves that will just suck which is why they added beast slay to some summon waves, although it still hasn't completely fixed the problem. Then end game it can become just a summon fest because then they're too strong. A idea that I really liked from the Clan Enfo version that Sorck made of Clan Enfo of US East not the recent Clan Enfo of EU, which I helped a little bit with, is the boss creep accompanying each wave. The creep leader would randomly or alternate? between the left and right spawn point and would be a beefy version of the regular creep waves, but would be immune to certain abilities like Arcane's Frost Scythe. The creep leader might also have a special ability like an aura that helps their wave do better. It had some other interesting ideas which I can't remember atm since it's been a while since I've played it. DL Link http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/maps-564/enfo-ce-v3-4996beta-81286/ Linking to the 3.4996 version since I think .4997 is just a stolen and renumbered version but could be wrong. | ||
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theqat
United States2856 Posts
On August 23 2011 13:55 KevinIX wrote: That's because everything on WC3 is Dota or Dota. I know what you're trying to say but that's not true these days! If you load up TFT and look at the games list, you'll see that DOTA only takes up a fifth of the spots in general. Wintermaul Wars, Enfo's, and a smattering of other maps are still quite popular  | ||
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aTak
Sweden69 Posts
On August 19 2011 19:31 Rakmo wrote: The spawn is currently not split at the start, but split when they reach the crossroad. We considered doing the split like in the original, but we really didn't see what purpose it served. But if you have any good reasons to add the split, we could easily do so. I would love to hear your thoughts on it. So how's it going? Any progress? Lon time since you posted. | ||
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DocM
United States212 Posts
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aTak
Sweden69 Posts
I have no idea how it's going for the other guy though, seems he was a bit more serious about his project, but he hasn't posted in a while. However, when (if?), my version gets far enough it could need more testing, I will look trough this thread and contact the volunteers, so I appreaciate it. I still think that people should post here if they have good ideas and stuff they would like to see in their ideal version. | ||
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MilkMan....
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Arkinsaal
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MilkMan....
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Tya
44 Posts
I'm the author of "Desert Strike HotS" and several other page 1 maps over the years (EU). I've been using the editor for years now. I've been working on an Enfos Team Survival map for the last 4 months. I expected it to be done this week, but I was contacted by Blizzard concerning one of my older projects, something I'm pretty excited about, delaying it somewhat. It should be done within a week or two. To go with the StarCraft theme, it is modelled after the HotS intro trailer where you have to defend that rather large Mengsk statue which you see falling over at the end, complete with fitting terrain. Pretty hyped about releasing this. I'll be releasing a single-team version called "Horde Mode" within a week, to test the waves and mechanics. | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On May 07 2013 00:53 Tya wrote: Heya, I'm the author of "Desert Strike HotS" and several other page 1 maps over the years (EU). I've been using the editor for years now. I've been working on an Enfos Team Survival map for the last 4 months. I expected it to be done this week, but I was contacted by Blizzard concerning one of my older projects, something I'm pretty excited about, delaying it somewhat. It should be done within a week or two. To go with the StarCraft theme, it is modelled after the HotS intro trailer where you have to defend that rather large Mengsk statue which you see falling over at the end, complete with fitting terrain. Pretty hyped about releasing this. I'll be releasing a single-team version called "Horde Mode" within a week, to test the waves and mechanics. Wohoo, getting hyped for that. Hope it can get popular on EU! | ||
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Poetry
United States105 Posts
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MilkMan....
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