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Adsee
Profile Joined May 2010
United States221 Posts
January 29 2011 03:35 GMT
#341
Ive played around 20 matches, so I'm by no means an expert, but I find the balance of this game to pretty god damn annoying. The easy to use heros feel too easy, to the point where it takes so much more skill to beat them then it does to actually play the them. I find myself ragequitting after a few matches when I completely crushed by something I have no idea how to counter.
burne-
Profile Joined November 2010
71 Posts
January 29 2011 07:03 GMT
#342
I agree with adsee, the balance is horrible!

one time I got beaten by lvl10 warrior when I was lvl20 mage. I could kill him a couple of times, but it was still insane difference with their power (if he reached lvl20 I couldnt do a shit to him)
justjuice
Profile Joined January 2010
New Zealand165 Posts
January 29 2011 07:20 GMT
#343
Guys the balance in this game is GOOD. This game actually requires quite a lot of skill to play properly. If you are losing you got outplayed. Please stop the balance whine posts
0mar
Profile Joined February 2010
United States567 Posts
January 29 2011 13:58 GMT
#344
There's a lot of useless heroes. The whole power/health/magic/speed rating thing doesn't tell you much when you pick a hero with shit skill sets.
pride2518
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada22 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-29 14:06:30
January 29 2011 14:02 GMT
#345
On January 29 2011 12:35 Adsee wrote:
Ive played around 20 matches, so I'm by no means an expert, but I find the balance of this game to pretty god damn annoying. The easy to use heros feel too easy, to the point where it takes so much more skill to beat them then it does to actually play the them. I find myself ragequitting after a few matches when I completely crushed by something I have no idea how to counter.


CITY OF TEMPEST
If you want, you could PM me who you need to know how to kill (the hero's name)
I might be able to help you

Arcane - This dude is slow and does not have a lot of HP. Pick someone with high DPS (Sylon) and just nuke him. Other fast characters could also easily kill him. You might notice that he has 1 useless single target skill, so use that to your advantage. Pick an agile char to avoid his high DPS AOEs.

Abel - This motherf*****r is annoying, but just like Arcane, most of his spells are AOE. Just avoid them with an agile char. His HP is not that high so you could just nuke him when you're pretty sure his mana pool is low

Phantom Gazette - Don't try to outrun this guy, you can't, not possible. Use a character that has a slow spell and nuke him. He has very low HP.

Drago - Make sure you find a way to destroy his towers. Since he has high HP, you need someone with a decent DPS. He is not that fast so you could just cast an AOE a little bit in front of him while he's moving and you'll probably catch him. Slow spells are really useful against him, as he has no way to escape them. Be careful not to get hit by his ult.

Hades - Destroy his dark tower early game and he'll probably suck late game :D (Really easy to destroy, you just fire a few spells and that's it)

Genesic Hunter (rampage), Lur Cellant (knight mode), Blade Master (Blade Master Mode) - Just run around a cliff till the mode expires
Genesic Rampage - Trap him with skills such as Firewall (Guard Fire) and place turrets in a circle around him.

Dwarven King - Kill his tanks.

Berr. Nine (cloak) - It is quite easy, the moment she attacks you you attack her. If she cloaks you can use skills with huge AOE to find her.

Zeros - Avoid. His. Attack. It's actually quite easy, you should be able to see it coming from miles away.

That's based on my own game experience with Lur Cellant, Zava and Guard Fire.

TIPS -

- Don't attack heroes @ early game, chances are you won't kill them. You'll slow yourself down more than you slow them down.
- Kill 1 Experience Capsule before going to kill creeps at early game.
- Spread your creeps around by walking into them ; most heroes have splash.
- Don't be cheap. Don't use modes when using Genesic Hunter, Lur Cellant and Blade Master. They're quite easy to counter.
- Stay near a Xel'Naga tower whenever possible.
- If your hero can set up towers, do it. (Megagun Zord, Berr. Nine, Guard Fire, Force Fire, Phantom Gazette, Dwarven King, Drago, Hades, etc.)
STATS BUILD ORDER (That's what I do)

High Health - (Drago)

Mana
Mana
Mana
Mana
Mana
(every abilities and ability upgrades)
Max Attack
Max Speed
Health till level 25

Low Health - (Zava)

Mana
Mana
Mana
Mana
Mana
(every abilities and ability upgrades)
Max Attack
Max Speed
Armor till level 25

Items (What I buy) -

Mana Regen
Mana Regen
Mana Regen
Shield
Mana Regen
Mana Regen
Shield
Shield
Shield
Shield
Mana
Shield Regen
Mana
Shield Regen
Mana
Shield Regen
Mana
Shield Regen
Mana
Shield Regen

If you have like 10K gas left at the end of the game and you've bought all upgrades, don't buy cards (Only buy the stat point and random card). Buy HUNTER BOTS :DD
burne-
Profile Joined November 2010
71 Posts
January 29 2011 18:51 GMT
#346
On January 29 2011 16:20 justjuice wrote:
Guys the balance in this game is GOOD. This game actually requires quite a lot of skill to play properly. If you are losing you got outplayed. Please stop the balance whine posts


I love your reasoning.

I just cant see how the clif walker dragon or teleporting hyber beam guy could be balanced. They both deal extremely high amount of damage and can escape/move around super easilly = more exp, better ganging abilities etch.....

And btw when I play I will most likely get 20-2 or something like that and I always pick random, so against random bnet person I would say it doesnt require any skill at all to win...

and btw, I think the games last too long. Usually there are atleast 1 leaver and that makes it even harder to kill the towers. And most of the games people dont understand to upgrade attack so you have to pretty much kill everything youtself if you want to win.
xciLe
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway213 Posts
January 29 2011 21:52 GMT
#347
the map seems realy cool, gonna check it when I get home
Protoss OP
0mar
Profile Joined February 2010
United States567 Posts
January 29 2011 23:37 GMT
#348
I just ran into Force Fire spamming 200 damage, zero cooldown turrets that are invincible. Yea, that's fucking smart.

So dumb. There's nothing you can do about that it seems because the turrets are invincible. You can't retreat either since the turrets have zero cooldown, instant cast. Just retarded. Another example of just bad design present in this custom.
pride2518
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada22 Posts
January 30 2011 03:18 GMT
#349
That's actually really easy to counter.
He can only set up turrets at short range, meaning you only have to slow him down and nuke him before he gets within a 3-range radius of you (estimated). His ult sucks a bit for that reason. Watch out for headbutt tho. You need to see it coming

Guard Fire is much worse I tell you.
0mar
Profile Joined February 2010
United States567 Posts
January 30 2011 03:41 GMT
#350
On January 30 2011 12:18 pride2518 wrote:
That's actually really easy to counter.
He can only set up turrets at short range, meaning you only have to slow him down and nuke him before he gets within a 3-range radius of you (estimated). His ult sucks a bit for that reason. Watch out for headbutt tho. You need to see it coming

Guard Fire is much worse I tell you.


sucks when you're a melee hero though i saw no counter to it as Zeros and I was the only one left on my team.
pride2518
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada22 Posts
January 30 2011 12:12 GMT
#351
dont take dark true strike, take the other ability whose name i forgot. it teleports you to a target point :D just like blink. plus if u aim it right u might hit him.
bobbeh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada101 Posts
January 30 2011 12:38 GMT
#352
On January 30 2011 21:12 pride2518 wrote:
dont take dark true strike, take the other ability whose name i forgot. it teleports you to a target point :D just like blink. plus if u aim it right u might hit him.


So you can teleport in his turrets? or away and be useless?

The game has an awful 1vs1 balance, most of the heroes match up are a one sided rape or stalemate

It's rare to have a micro dodge fest, it will only happen in few match up

Sure the game is kinda balanced, but most of the match ups are not fun, you can't beat every heroes with any heroes
Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
January 30 2011 13:51 GMT
#353
I've renamed this thread since it no longer seems necessary to mention the #1 on korean servers, and I'm not sure if it's true any longer either.
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0mar
Profile Joined February 2010
United States567 Posts
January 30 2011 19:34 GMT
#354
seriously, how the heck do you beat tower spam? It has zero cooldown and negligible mana cost.
pride2518
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada22 Posts
January 31 2011 01:29 GMT
#355
I'd pick Zava (aka Infested Kerrigan aka Queen of Blades aka ef'fing Kerrigan) and just blink away from it, then I'd use hotkeys (need micro for this) B V C to kill the spammer from a certain range. All this has to be done in very rapid succession.
Grantler
Profile Joined August 2010
United States228 Posts
January 31 2011 01:33 GMT
#356
Fun game, however the balance is pretty terrible. Arcane and the genetic or w/e zealot are vastly superior to most of the other heroes, and several others are as well.
bobbeh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada101 Posts
January 31 2011 01:46 GMT
#357
On January 31 2011 04:34 0mar wrote:
seriously, how the heck do you beat tower spam? It has zero cooldown and negligible mana cost.


try Drago
DibujEx
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Chile130 Posts
January 31 2011 01:55 GMT
#358
I love it.. but yes, it's true, it has some serious problems of balance
;D!
pride2518
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada22 Posts
January 31 2011 02:28 GMT
#359
On January 31 2011 10:33 Grantler wrote:
Fun game, however the balance is pretty terrible. Arcane and the genetic or w/e zealot are vastly superior to most of the other heroes, and several others are as well.


Play them enough times and eventually you'll get used to them and will be able to counter them. I kill a Genesic Hunter with either a unit that can set up towers (chances are they will feel invincible and won't run from them) or with another Genesic Hunter with whom I pick Genesic Crusher instead. I'll kill them before they kill me with it.
darkponcho
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States262 Posts
January 31 2011 03:06 GMT
#360
Krizard's ice spear in the latest version (0.105) costs no mana. There's some korean guy picking him every game and killing everyone with it.
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