On August 19 2010 03:14 monitor wrote:
I can't play BW on my new Windows 7 computer, would really like to see this!!!! You should use the infestor as the protoss reaver I think.

Use the infestor modell as reaver and call it dark reaver! And if you change the broodling size you got you defiler going. Hope we will see some good old BW action soon.

braammbolius

179 Posts

August 18 2010 22:08 GMT

#24

On August 19 2010 02:43 Dice0oo0 wrote:

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But thats just like, your opinion man

But thats just like, your opinion man.

Chuiu

3470 Posts

August 18 2010 22:29 GMT

#25

I know theres a lot of hate towards us people who think SC2 should be Brood War with improvements and not what it is now, but after playing both games I really feel that Brood War still is more fun to play as a strategy game. With a little bit of tweaks to each race from BW and maybe an additional unit on each side I think SC2 would be a lot more interesting than it is now. Though I'm mostly disappointed with Zerg in SC2.

MavercK

Australia2181 Posts

August 18 2010 22:41 GMT

#26

regarding vulture mines. i made it this way because in the campaign you would get your 10 vultures and have to select the target for each individual mine. i didn't like this. instead now you can select 10 vultures. send them to where you want your mines and hit mine and all 10 will drop a mine at their current location. i feel this better replicates the brood war style. im not sure if i can do this with a target. i'll have a second look at it however.

as for other units... it's kind of... hard without the model. i guess i can hack together a golden infestor for reaver and i have no clue what to use for the defiler.

monitor

United States2409 Posts

August 19 2010 00:12 GMT

#27

Maybe use the melee unit in the campaign for the defiler?

GoodRamen

United States713 Posts

August 19 2010 00:12 GMT

#28

this is AWESOME want to try it out sooon XD

Radios

United States61 Posts

August 19 2010 00:14 GMT

#29

Regarding the Brood Lord, I believe the Swarm Guardian model, animations, and attack are still in the game files. If you were interested in bringing back the Guardian (in the form of the Swarm Guardian) it would be relatively easy to do so.

Also, I believe the Corsair has sounds and attack data in the game files as well. You could probably remake it using Urun's phoenix model. Dark Archon can just be a red tinted Archon.

Using the old Infestor to represent the Reaver would be kind of awkward. I'd just use the Colossus until we get an official Reaver model, or at least a model of relative high quality.

The Defiler can be just represented by the current Infestor for now. That AOE spell Kerrigan has (Razor Swarm, I think?) might make a decent Dark Swarm graphic.

No ideas for the Queen. Maybe the Overseer or the Leviathan as a placeholder, since the new Queen is a ground unit?

The mercenary Viking model (Hel's Angel) actually makes a damn decent Valkyrie replacement.

MavercK

Australia2181 Posts

August 19 2010 00:23 GMT

#30

pretty good ideas. i think the brood lord shares the appearance of the guardian more than the swarm guardian does.

sluggaslamoo

Australia4494 Posts

August 19 2010 00:26 GMT

#31

On August 19 2010 01:51 MavercK wrote:
this is basically just me messing around with the campaign units, restoring them and existing units to their brood war stats.

few screenshots at
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http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/brood-war-1-5/images/

I originally did a mod in BETA where all the stats were changed back to broodwar, even had BW music and sounds, and other stuff like micro and different macro mechanics, it was also play tested with some of my mates, quite balanced (and more fun than vanilla SC2 IMO). We should combine our powers and make something awesome.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=125146

Sayer

United States403 Posts

August 19 2010 00:35 GMT

#32

I think Blizzard should really make BW in better graphic in the future.

I am throughly enjoying SC2 at the moment but BW will forever be very special and its is something I never get sick of watching. Only downside of BW is its outdated (but still fine) graphic really.

BTW those lurker eggs look soooo sick.. god damn I miss them so much

Edit: Forgot to mention you are doing a fabulous job OP!

MavercK

Australia2181 Posts

August 19 2010 00:57 GMT

#33

ty. yea im pretty sure when blizzard made starcraft 2 they remade brood war first and then just started messing with it. theres just so much stuff thats carbon copy from brood war.

and yea i remember seeing your stuff slugga

hadoken5

Canada519 Posts

August 19 2010 01:03 GMT

#34

I would play it because I want to play BW with better pathing and graphics. I do see a problem in it gaining popularity but I would play it. Especially with Zerg being better.

MavercK

Australia2181 Posts

August 19 2010 01:20 GMT

#35

yes well thats my main inspiration in doing this map
i dont like how zerg in starcraft have some of the slowest units in the game (roach/hydra) and their mobility seems to have dropped like a stone in water. apart from ling/muta/ultra.

i still love the game though and i eagerly await HotS to see what blizzard can do to rectify this.

Tempest[OEC]

United States417 Posts

August 19 2010 01:29 GMT

#36

This is one of the mods Ive been looking foward to the most. Any updates on Protoss units? Thank you for doing this!

Acritter

Syria7637 Posts

August 19 2010 02:28 GMT

#37

I support this effort. Just keep in mind that there will most likely be a lot of problems in regards to the improved unit AIs. Zerglings, Tanks, Dragoons, and High Templar in particular will be much more powerful. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if ZvP was massively imbalanced in favor of Zerg simply because Zerg can use standard Savior builds without having to worry about the Bisu build because good-AI lings can destroy a fast Forge wall-in. Who knows, though. I might be wrong. Either way, this is a very worthwhile effort.

[Agony]x90

United States853 Posts

August 19 2010 02:28 GMT

#38

Given a new engine though, couldn't balance be thrown off quite a bit? Could you imagine BW zergling dps with SC2 zergling AI? People out just 5 pool again, just like in the good old days.

edit: whoops, accritter beat me out by like.. a couple seconds. Still, i state my point!

MavercK

Australia2181 Posts

August 19 2010 02:32 GMT

#39

very valid concerns. wont know the result till it's done however im afraid. im fiddling around seeing if i can remake the reaver currently. my thoughts on it are that it would be OP as hell. but we'll see.

hofodomo

United States257 Posts

August 19 2010 03:49 GMT

#40

I am totally looking forward to this. Will definitely follow along your progress.

Firebats weren't so huge in BW (and perhaps some others), so maybe tweak those units' stats.