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tRUMR's melee map thread?
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Publishing
Have published TSI Roadrunner, TSI Shuriken, TSI Cityscape, Planeswalker & Triathlon on the EU server, just search for their respective names. (Judgement day has also been published under "BW Judgement day")
Looking for people to publish the other maps (from here as well as this thread), if there is any specific thing you'd like to publish EU, US AISA or SEA then just shoot me a pm or dl it from here (slight possibility of non up-to-date-ness).
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Made a few melee maps (mostly scbw "stylish") and tried my hand at converting Roadrunner a bunch of maps to sc2.
SCBW conversions
(4) R-Point-sc2
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(4) Roadrunner-sc2
+ Show Spoiler +![[image loading]](http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/6569/terrain086.jpg) Fixed (narrowed) path leading from 3rd to hostile? ramp. Fixed 6 o'clock nat (main and 3rd), was a bit off. Pic not 100% up to date, some texture/doodad fixing ----old----+ Show Spoiler +![[image loading]](http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/8766/terrain045.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/2057/roadrunnerm.jpg) Should be somewhat functional due to a mild case of ocd. Special thanks go to the editor which would only convert the mineral patch locations. Still have to fix the minerals, just using what the editor churned out which is ok apart from mules getting stuck at some nats (will be fixed soon, just have to re-upload).
Download link is still old version, will re-upload soonish.More pics: ![[image loading]](http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/7189/terrain018.jpg)
(3) Triathlon-sc2
+ Show Spoiler +![[image loading]](http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/6007/terrain048.jpg) Kind of in the works still somewhat. Switched out the arbiter/egg-stuff for the good old rocks, kind of a way different gameplay but w/e or not since egg stuff still works, need the right values but it's got a working invisiegg mechanic
(4) Fortress - sc2
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(4) Judgement Day-sc2
+ Show Spoiler +![[image loading]](http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/8756/terrain026.jpg) Fixed the mid a bit, was off (new upload up later, pic up to date) ![[image loading]](http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/2812/terrain025.jpg)
(4) Return of the King-sc2
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Custom melee maps
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(4) Cityscape
+ Show Spoiler +![[image loading]](http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/396/terrain087.jpg) 4 player map, somewhat similar to metalopolis I guess, in tileset obviously as well as layout (partially). Still contemplating tower placements (as well as possible los blockers) Alternative angle+ Show Spoiler +
(3) Planeswalker
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(2) Flying pony?
+ Show Spoiler +![[image loading]](http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/1825/terrain034.jpg) 132x134 playable or something, pretty much exactly the same as Lost Temple. Still a work in progress pretty much so no dl link yet.Thread
(4) Shuriken
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(2) Tremor
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(4) Septic
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(4) Basin
+ Show Spoiler +![[image loading]](http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/5158/terrain005.jpg) 4 Mains and a middle "rotationally symmetric". "Andromedra'ish" style cliffable natural. Mains not cliffable. More pics: ![[image loading]](http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/8420/terrain021.jpg)
(2) Boiler
+ Show Spoiler +![[image loading]](http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/581/terrain046.jpg) Changed outer min-only expos to normal gas ones. nat not tankable from across the chasm (buildings behind the line may be). Added destructible debri to third choke for easier defence ----old----![[image loading]](http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/6144/boiler.jpg) The mid is kind of weirdish as you need 2x cc/nexus/hatch to claim both patches effectively. More pics:
![[image loading]](http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/1420/terrain020.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/8571/terrain019.jpg)
(4) Roundabout
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(3) Erosion
+ Show Spoiler +![[image loading]](http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/3268/terrain017.jpg) Red things are mains, bit asymmetrical but hopefully not too. Somewhat small number of resources available. Main (unless the elevated nat counts as a cliff) and third not cliffable. More pics: ![[image loading]](http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/2873/terrain023.jpg)
Downloads should be available here if anyone want's to test something out.
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you've got skill. roadrunner looks fantastic, and props on the 3 player map
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Roadrunner looks nice, I think it seems fairly balanced in SC2 as well.
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Very nice, Roadrunner is very good and Roundabout looks great.
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The roads look so unnatural.. Perhaps you should make your own road design that appears to have some purpose than decoration? You are not limited by the scbw tileset anymore! Spice it up.
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On June 14 2010 07:24 larjarse wrote:
The roads look so unnatural.. Perhaps you should make your own road design that appears to have some purpose than decoration? You are not limited by the scbw tileset anymore! Spice it up.
Yes, not really too happy with the roads and bridges, incorporating them is just very awkward  . Might just go for something different in the middle but it won't be too detailed I think unless I can find some new ways to fiddle with the textures.
Nevermind misunderstood :D, but still yes might go for something else, different, more in the middle.
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Blizzard doesn't have an intersection tile for the roads? =)
Awesome stuff, man.
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On June 14 2010 07:33 0neder wrote:
Blizzard doesn't have an intersection tile for the roads? =)
Awesome stuff, man.
Roads are kind of this line/point stuff you plop down and it generates a road in between , have not found anything better yet at least, might discover something with some further delving though, don't believe they are this restricted.
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Roadrunner / Erosion / The Boiler looks sooo good man. Tons of maps coming out now that Beta is down and people have nothing to do which is great but these look to be above average.
Question: In the map Roundabout, are the mains big enough? It looks like it but at the same time it seems small??? Pardon me if I'm wrong just checking.
Also, on Basin, the ledges behind the mains don't look "balanced". Wouldn't the top right base be more exposed to siege drop harass as the ledge goes across the entire main? Overall, Basin looks like a very Terran friendly map.
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best maps ive seen so far
very good work
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ah i like this roadrunner  very nice
dont u need larger main bases tho?
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I like what you did in with the ramp on roundabout, having the destructible rocks shorten it allows for walling off, and in my opinion is a really neat idea.
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On June 14 2010 08:01 MorroW wrote:ah i like this roadrunner very nice dont u need larger main bases tho?
I think they're about sc2 lost temple size, some playtesting might be needed to see how it works out/feels.
On June 14 2010 08:17 Morayfire73 wrote:
I like what you did in with the ramp on roundabout, having the destructible rocks shorten it allows for walling off, and in my opinion is a really neat idea.
Yes it's kind of a cross between a same level choke and a ramp, allows for a wider arch of attack.
Was going for a wide ramp originally but kind of got second thoughts with the shortish rush distance.
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Absolutely LOVE how Roadrunner looks - BUT I have to say this. Remember how Blizz had that graphic that people complained looked 'too much' like a swastika? (Even though no one else really thought that/cared?) You may have the same issue with this map. (I think its just a bunch of whiny morons protesting something stupid - but just a heads up.
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On June 15 2010 09:04 Jovian wrote:
Absolutely LOVE how Roadrunner looks - BUT I have to say this. Remember how Blizz had that graphic that people complained looked 'too much' like a swastika? (Even though no one else really thought that/cared?) You may have the same issue with this map. (I think its just a bunch of whiny morons protesting something stupid - but just a heads up.
Haha, glad you like it and thanks for the heads up, guess the roads can be altered a bit if someone puts up that complaint with a straight face :D
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I am loving these maps. They all seem like they would play out very well. I especially like the basin map, it seems well balanced and polished.
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Wow, Judgement Day looks SEXY.
Niceeeee work.
Can't wait to try some games on this one.
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I don't like the idea of mineral only expansions in this game. Gas is much more valuable in this game because when a Geyser is mined out, you can't get anything from it. However, workers still returned gas from mined out Geysers in SC:BW. So it made sense to have mineral only expansions in SC:BW because it was more abundant. But gas is too valuable to just throw mineral only expansions freely. Also, this map becomes a low gas/high mineral map with only 4 gas expansions which might be imbalanced for a few races. (it seems Terran bio would dominate) I say four and not six because it is nearly impossible to secure that middle expansion. I like that though because it has an extremely high value.
On the map with the mineral only expansions, I suggest removing two mineral only expansions so only 2 would remain. Then make that mineral only easier to defend. I feel those mineral only expansions are too in the open for being lower value.
However, these are excellent maps. I really love that 3 player one. It is a low-resource map, so it encourages early aggression to take out a player for his minerals, but due to its nature of being a 3 player FFA, it makes you play defensive that the same time. Possibly throwing a mineral only expansion for each player would be a good idea. A very interesting map to say the least and keep up the good work.
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On June 14 2010 07:49 ckw wrote:
Roadrunner / Erosion / The Boiler looks sooo good man. Tons of maps coming out now that Beta is down and people have nothing to do which is great but these look to be above average.
Question: In the map Roundabout, are the mains big enough? It looks like it but at the same time it seems small??? Pardon me if I'm wrong just checking.
Also, on Basin, the ledges behind the mains don't look "balanced". Wouldn't the top right base be more exposed to siege drop harass as the ledge goes across the entire main? Overall, Basin looks like a very Terran friendly map.
Roundabout mains felt pretty big when I playtested them so I think it's mostly just the map deceiving.
On Basin the cliffs behind the mains are not pathable and the blue line is out of bounds so the ledges are not a problem; only space you have their is enough to hide an overlord, the map itself may be terran favored with the harassable/siegeable -> nat/3rd, time will tell (hopefully ).
On June 15 2010 09:46 Tump wrote:
Wow, Judgement Day looks SEXY.
Niceeeee work.
Can't wait to try some games on this one.
Can't wait for the beta :'(
On June 15 2010 10:11 Whole wrote:
I don't like the idea of mineral only expansions in this game. Gas is much more valuable in this game because when a Geyser is mined out, you can't get anything from it. However, workers still returned gas from mined out Geysers in SC:BW. So it made sense to have mineral only expansions in SC:BW because it was more abundant. But gas is too valuable to just throw mineral only expansions freely. Also, this map becomes a low gas/high mineral map with only 4 gas expansions which might be imbalanced for a few races. (it seems Terran bio would dominate) I say four and not six because it is nearly impossible to secure that middle expansion. I like that though because it has an extremely high value.
On the map with the mineral only expansions, I suggest removing two mineral only expansions so only 2 would remain. Then make that mineral only easier to defend. I feel those mineral only expansions are too in the open for being lower value.
However, these are excellent maps. I really love that 3 player one. It is a low-resource map, so it encourages early aggression to take out a player for his minerals, but due to its nature of being a 3 player FFA, it makes you play defensive that the same time. Possibly throwing a mineral only expansion for each player would be a good idea. A very interesting map to say the least and keep up the good work.
On The Boiler you've got a point about the mineral only expos, kind of have to change the exposed one to a normal one, the 3rd I think I'll try keeping but perhaps with a bit more favorable terrain.
About the Erosion map it's mostly thought off as a 1v1 map but the min only Idea might not be too bad since It is likely that only one player will get to expo outside of the nat and 3rd as when you claim 1 expo in the additional main you've basically got them all and the map is not that rich to begin with.
Thanks for the feedback everyone btw.
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Can Reapers run around on those walls on Judgement Day? If so, could be OP. If not... well, it doesn't look like there's going to be a ton of Reaper usage on most of these. :-)
I like the experimentation with the mineral-only on Boiler. Can tanks hit miners at the natural expos from the 3/9 min-onlys? That could be a bit broken if a T can wall in a tank or two with mineral patches and bunkers.
I think my favorite overall is Roundabout for those small choaks through the middle that are block w/ rocks. It'll make for some pretty quick attack distances from close positions once you reach mid-game.
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On June 16 2010 01:13 GeorgeForeman wrote:
Can Reapers run around on those walls on Judgement Day? If so, could be OP. If not... well, it doesn't look like there's going to be a ton of Reaper usage on most of these. :-)
I like the experimentation with the mineral-only on Boiler. Can tanks hit miners at the natural expos from the 3/9 min-onlys? That could be a bit broken if a T can wall in a tank or two with mineral patches and bunkers.
I think my favorite overall is Roundabout for those small choaks through the middle that are block w/ rocks. It'll make for some pretty quick attack distances from close positions once you reach mid-game.
Right now none of the walls are pathable but that really screws over collossus and reapers so I'll probably end up having the single spaced walls jumpable and the cluttered/thick walls unpathable.
I'll probably end up fixing the outer min-only expos on The Boiler, the tankable nat from the min only concern is a real one; I'll keep that in mind as I rework it.
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New map:
(2) Unnamed?
![[image loading]](http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/3237/terrain028.jpg)
132x134 playable or thereabout, pretty much exactly the same as Lost Temple.
Still a work in progress pretty much so no dl link yet.
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You're missing a key feature in Roadrunner, which is the unwalkable terrain by the second ramp to the gas third bases which narrows the choke to make it more defensible. Otherwise a very impressive conversion of the map
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On June 18 2010 07:07 SixZ wrote:
OMFG I LOVE U MAN!
haha siggi :D
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Return of the King conversion in the works (or finished basically bar some polishing and some revising possibly):
![[image loading]](http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/3327/terrain043.jpg)
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New map (or old(or new))
(3) Triathlon
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![[image loading]](http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/6835/terrain049.jpg)
The mineralwalking over the invisible eggs mechanic is in place, perhaps needing more exact values of "ease of breakability" though.
The mothership is a "bit" clunkier than the arbiter but it'll do :D
Still needs a tiny bit of fixing in a few spots but it's pretty much complete (I think).
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I love the triathalon, its looks great. And you should keep cloaked eggs, it wouldnt be triathalon without it ^^
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Can't publish this stuff on EU (unfortunately for obvious reasons :S) and don't have a US account.
Contact me if you want to publish something on the US realm and I'll provide a more up-to-date version of the map
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Damn, nice.
If you need any help publishing any of these on the North American server, give a shout.
Really, SUPER work. More feedback to follow as maps are tested..keep it up!
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On July 17 2010 09:32 InfiniteIce wrote:
Damn, nice.
If you need any help publishing any of these on the North American server, give a shout.
Really, SUPER work. More feedback to follow as maps are tested..keep it up!
Feel free to publish the ones you like, afaik none of them have been published yet. I'm working on re-uploading some revisions, pretty much done I think; just going over it again.
It's all on the sc2mapster site
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Why does RoadRunner have a swastika in the middle?
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On July 17 2010 11:04 Skee wrote:
Why does RoadRunner have a swastika in the middle?
You're infiltrating a nazi-complex and fighting aliens. At the same time!
Guess I can fix the 2 and 8 o'clock arms a bit but the original is a "tad" dodgy anyways.
Edit;
Updated Roadrunner to be a bit less nazi friendly I guess, perhaps some more editing incoming.
Added a few maps
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This makes me sad, I can only play these maps on custom mode. I wished these could be in ladder.
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Triathlon looks pretty funny with those huge motherships everywhere.
Nice job on these maps though. Fortress and some of your own ones look great as well.
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Publishing
Have published Roadrunner, Return of the King, Flying Pony, Planeswalker & Triathlon on the EU server, just search for their respective names.
Looking for people to publish the other maps (from here as well as this thread), if there is any specific thing you'd like to publish EU, US AISA/SEA? then just shoot me a pm or dl it from here (slight possibility of non up-to-date-ness).
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Published Judgement day on EU as "BW judgement day". However you cant find it when searching for "judgement" but only when starting with "bw .." or "bw" at all.
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I like the maps
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Haven't visiting this thread in a while. The Boiler map Iooks great now that you added some gas expansions. I wish I could play on these...but I don't have a partner to play with so I'm stuck on ladder.
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On August 03 2010 12:33 Warri wrote:
Published Judgement day on EU as "BW judgement day". However you cant find it when searching for "judgement" but only when starting with "bw .." or "bw" at all.
The search system is so dodgy, the BW tag would be so much better if it didn't need the first word so that Judge and BW would both uncover the desired map instead of one having to go through some loops to get what one needs
Thanks for upping!
On August 03 2010 13:35 FlopTurnReaver wrote:I like the maps
Thank you
On August 03 2010 13:44 Whole wrote:
Haven't visiting this thread in a while. The Boiler map Iooks great now that you added some gas expansions. I wish I could play on these...but I don't have a partner to play with so I'm stuck on ladder.
Fixed it up a bit more later on than is depicted in the op (when i originally added the gas it was only 1 geyser :D)
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