[MOD] Yet Another Build Order Tester (YABOT) - Page 23

On August 15 2010 00:49 Xanatoss wrote:
Wasted a whole day of practice until I recognized Very Hard AI has increased Gather Rate... I really was questioning myself fot getting crushed so badly over and over ._.

On August 15 2010 23:19 jpaugh78 wrote:

Are you talking about the Blizzard Very Hard AI or Yabot's?

I only ask, because I've been playing against the Very Hard Blizzard AI, and at the beginning it didn't appear to cheat when I tested it out awhile back.

On August 15 2010 04:24 xorpwnz wrote:
I'm going to meet with the Green Tea AI author and hopefully have some solutions to these problems soon. Do any of you know if these kind of problems also happen with Green Tea on any other maps?

On August 15 2010 23:19 jpaugh78 wrote:

Are you talking about the Blizzard Very Hard AI or Yabot's?

I only ask, because I've been playing against the Very Hard Blizzard AI, and at the beginning it didn't appear to cheat when I tested it out awhile back.

On August 16 2010 01:26 Xanatoss wrote:


This is the Yabot-Thread, so im talking oc about Grean Tea AI :x

On August 15 2010 00:49 Xanatoss wrote:
Wasted a whole day of practice until I recognized Very Hard AI has increased Gather Rate... I really was questioning myself fot getting crushed so badly over and over ._.

Anyways /cheer to the Yabot-Crew, you do an amazing job!

On August 16 2010 13:21 InfoDav wrote:
For those of you wondering if you can run custom maps while online, yes you can, and here's how.

1- Close Starcraft 2.
2- Open the map in the map editor.
3- Start the map with File->Test Document.
4- Wait until it loads up and quit the map.
5- At that point, do not close your Starcraft 2, and log into your account.
6- Alt-tab back at the map editor and do Test Document again.
7- Bam, you'll play the custom map while connected to BNET, and you'll be able to watch replays.

Not sure if there's a simpler way, for me it was the only way to play while connected. I'm posting that here because I wanted to test builds while talking to my friends. Maybe should post this somewhere else however if there's no simpler way to do it.

On August 18 2010 06:46 Xanatoss wrote:
I dont know if this has allready been mentioned but is it possible to implement a feature that lets you start at certain points of your BO including the Timer?
Or at least some hardcoded start-points like
- 15 Food Terran with 1 Depot, 1 Rax, 1 Refinery and 200 Minerals able to start OC and 1st Marine
- 17 Food Protoss with 2 Pylons, 1 Extractor and 150 Minerals able to start warp in his CyCo
- xx Food with Pool + Gas and 100 Gas aswell as 1xx Minerals able to start Meta Boost (not familiar with that opening)

I ask because I am pretty tired of doing the same variationless Opening over and over again just because I want to experiment with a variation around the 7:00 min mark.

On August 08 2010 13:49 VelRa_G wrote:
Hi xorpwnz, the current YABOT is powerful but awfully complicated and lacking the convenience and plain simplicity of qxc's original build order tester. I'd like to see a BASIC and ADVANCED mode tab in the main menu where advanced is the current YABOT and basic is similar to qxc's with hotkeys for reset. I feel as if this would make the map much more accessible.

Also, I do not feel as if Green Tea + ai micro functionality is the appropriate direction for a build order tester. The focus is on refinement, not winning or losing against a system which will never play like a human. Practice partners should be able to use YABOT as a way to practice builds, to establish game scenarios using an accessible interface.

The system has a lot of potential, to be the go-to Starcraft 2 laboratory for all skill levels across all areas of gameplay. I don't want this post to come across as me placing a burden, it is our responsibility as a community to help you create a great learning tool.

On August 19 2010 20:17 Vimsey wrote:

I agree with this, sorry but its the first time ive had time to use this after playing the campaign and I need to test my builds against the rushes I will encounter not against turtling cheating non human AIs. Please consider giving us attack waves again at least as an option because that was so beneficial to me in Beta.

On August 21 2010 08:14 Galin wrote:
I really like this tool. It's much nicer to be able to see the timing and the list of your BO instead of just winging it in a custom AI match.

Is there any way to make it so that the game UI defaults to whichever race you select in the initial menu? I know you can change it by modifying the player properties in the map editor, but doing that makes it a constant so if you switch races the UI remains the same.