FS's PR may some shaky placements, but he quickly forgets it the next month. He is way more objective than JWD. And FS doesn`t have a bias towards a specific team, and put as many players from that team in the PR.

also twotoneterran's post is valid. He may be a little aggressive but he's got some pretty good arguments for his opinions.

JWD has done one PR. Let's wait until next month to see if he tends to favor certain teams etc.

Kuja900

United States3564 Posts

May 22 2009 02:07 GMT

#465

This PR just seems like it was designed to encourage conflict amongst the audience more so than to actually rank players.

Avidkeystamper

United States8556 Posts

May 22 2009 02:38 GMT

#466

No publicity is bad publicity.

JWD

United States12607 Posts

May 22 2009 03:34 GMT

#467

On May 22 2009 11:07 Kuja900 wrote:
This PR just seems like it was designed to encourage conflict amongst the audience more so than to actually rank players.

If my objective was actually "to encourage conflict", don't you think I could have done a better job? Screw Jaedong at 4, let's kick his ass down to CBNC!!

Geo.Rion

7377 Posts

May 22 2009 04:13 GMT

#468

On May 22 2009 12:34 JWD wrote:

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If my objective was actually "to encourage conflict", don't you think I could have done a better job? Screw Jaedong at 4, let's kick his ass down to CBNC!!

No, than ppl wouldnt even take it in serious, but this way everybody (including me) tried to prove the obvious fact that JD>>>Zero in every regards expect maybe the TLPD page outlook. This alone provided ~400 comments (ok let's not exclude the Kespa joke), a PR writer should be glad. The previous PR had ~200 comments by the time this one was supoused to come out, and it had bad and arguable placements. So be proud, ppl at least take you in serious and many of them (includng me) believe you can do an even better job with the next PR (i dont mean place JD on a stupid place again to have discussion topic, but to be more accurate or stabilize your way of rating beforhead as Mani did)

PS: Also as it was said one million times, PR on the first 3 days of the month is the way to go, no need to wait one month after the previous one.

Musoeun

United States4324 Posts

May 22 2009 04:33 GMT

#469

PS: Also as it was said one million times, PR on the first 3 days of the month is the way to go, no need to wait one month after the previous one.

Interestingly enough, if the PR had come out on time, Zero over JD would have been a ton more valid, as JD was playing sloppy and Zero was on a tear... by the time it was actually published, things had evened out, Zero was dropping games again and JD wasn't.

StylishVODs

Sweden5331 Posts

May 22 2009 10:44 GMT

#470

On May 22 2009 13:33 Musoeun wrote:

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Thats why you have to wait more games to determine if its just a little streak or if the new player is actually getting really good.

I'd also like the PR to come out early in the month instead of in the middle and then keep it that way. There's really no reason to get it out the 15th etc.

New KeSPA and PR rank at the same time would be awesome.

Chill

Calgary26004 Posts

May 22 2009 18:22 GMT

#471

You think Fakesteve purposely waited until mid month to release the PR?... You don't need to suggest things that are inherently obvious.

StylishVODs

Sweden5331 Posts

May 22 2009 19:20 GMT

#472

I don't think its obvious that someone will try to make june's PR june 1st no.
But I get the msg..

Polar_Bear

Germany55 Posts

May 22 2009 21:31 GMT

#473

considering that the "perfect" PR would have been s.th. like:

1. Bisu
2/3 Jaedong/Fantasy
4.Zero
5. Effort
6. Skyhigh
7. Leta
8-10. Calm/Flash/Kespa

the PR is very well done.
JD should be 2 or 3 and I miss Horang2 (untested vs Z but good vT and brilliant vP) in the CNBC, but the rest is absolutely fine (it might be only my personal opinion, that skyhigh > Leta).
Also the Kespa gag was nice and the reasoning is comprehensible.

So grats and thanks to JWD for doing a very good job!

Pooshlmer

United States1001 Posts

May 22 2009 21:56 GMT

#474

That would be an interesting feature. A short discussion at the end of the month seeing how predictive the old PR was. I don't see many places do that.

JWD

United States12607 Posts

May 23 2009 00:38 GMT

#475

Thanks Polar_Bear, you made a very intelligent post.

On May 23 2009 06:56 Pooshlmer wrote:
That would be an interesting feature. A short discussion at the end of the month seeing how predictive the old PR was. I don't see many places do that.

I think this would be a good idea, if the point of the PR was to predict next month's big players. However, if I do write another PR I promise
a) to include a little blurb on how last month's big risers fared (if they're not already covered in the rank or CBNC)
and (a point that has been raised by many posters in this thread)
b) to try to push the PR's publication date closer to the 1st of the month.

TwoToneTerran

United States8841 Posts

May 23 2009 01:26 GMT

#476

I don't like the idea of circumcising this month so it's instantly back on schedule. Maybe bring it back 5 days per PR -- treat every month like Februrary for the summer!

JWD

United States12607 Posts

May 23 2009 01:27 GMT

#477

On May 23 2009 10:26 TwoToneTerran wrote:
I don't like the idea of circumcising this month so it's instantly back on schedule. Maybe bring it back 5 days per PR -- treat every month like Februrary for the summer!

I agree, this is the plan I suggested a few pages back.