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I think the mixed method is awesome. I never watched brood war, and I would not have watched any games without this format. Muta micro was so much more interesting in brood war.
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On May 23 2012 05:17 Ruscour wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 04:56 Spekulatius wrote:Having players practice for both games is ridiculously stupid. They should have left the team a free choice who was gonna play BW and who was gonna play SC2. Of course they don't want that, so we're left with this trainwreck. On May 23 2012 04:38 Uni1987 wrote:BW ran its course, time for a new, better game  Don't start this shit. In the BW forums, it's the reverse non-stop, and no-one tells them to shut up. Let people flaunt their opinions.
At the end of the day, SC2 fans still have their game. BW fans don't. Have some compassion.
I'm not saying any side can't have their opinion about which game is better, but one of the two sides has its game disappearing and does not need people to tell them their game has been there for a while and now deserves to disappear.
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I really hate it tbh. I understand that it's hard for them to just give up bw just like that, from one day to another. But I think htat it's pretty stupid that they play bw/sc2 50/50, they should just play bw 90/10%, or just go pure sc2 if you ask me. The players are really bad at sc2 atm, so it's kinda sad and pathetic to watch most of the sc2 games atm tbh. And the people who like to watch bw doesnt care that much about sc2, and same goes for the sc2 people. And nobody's getting shown how sc2 really is based on the way that the players kespa team players play so far. I think that it's really stupid that they play a hybrid league, instead of just going pure sc2.
As an ex bw follower, who practically stopped watching bw, when sc2 (yes, sadly I did, but bw wasnt very interesting anymore anyways to me) was released, when I turn on pl, the games I actually enjoy the most are the bw ones, and then you get to wat 3 sc2 games, that noone really cares about, and the play is pathetic, it's just sad tbh. They should just go 90/10% bw as I said before or 100%, the way they do it now is just stupid - Why can't the bw people not just give up bwm why do they need to be nurtured (shitty word) for 5 months with having 50/50 bw/sc2 games, when noone really cares much about either since there's both at once.
To the bw people, you gotta get over the fact that bw is dead we all knew deep within that bw wouldnt live forever, hence it is an video game, and there will always come newer games, and new sequals for every game. And usually games wont last more that even 5 years (it's incredible that bw has even had such a huge scene for 10+ years), with all the amazing things that has happened in that game, from boxers tank dropship micro, to iloveoov's insane macro, to Saviors amazing strategic play and godly defiler use and to the pure mastery mechanically masterminds in Flash and Jaedong. It was some of the greatest years, but now it's over, and now there's a new game in sc2, and dont worry I'm sure that we'll see alot of amazing stuff in this game in the near future too. The game is really new, and the players have only touched the surface of the game so far, we have far from seen what players capable of doing with this game yet. So embrace the new game, it's an awesome game, and it shows some amazing games too.
tl:dr
BW is dead, get over it, now sc2 will take over, but dont worry, it's an awesome game!
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I think it's a necessary transition model. The novelty value of BW pros playing SC2 is fun to me for a season, which is what its about in the end. I'm really wondering what will happen once they've caught up to GSL standards.
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On May 23 2012 17:34 MadNeSs wrote:
I really hate it tbh. I understand that it's hard for them to just give up bw just like that, from one day to another. But I think htat it's pretty stupid that they play bw/sc2 50/50, they should just play bw 90/10%, or just go pure sc2 if you ask me. The players are really bad at sc2 atm, so it's kinda sad and pathetic to watch most of the sc2 games atm tbh. And the people who like to watch bw doesnt care that much about sc2, and same goes for the sc2 people. And nobody's getting shown how sc2 really is based on the way that the players kespa team players play so far. I think that it's really stupid that they play a hybrid league, instead of just going pure sc2.
As an ex bw follower, who practically stopped watching bw, when sc2 (yes, sadly I did, but bw wasnt very interesting anymore anyways to me) was released, when I turn on pl, the games I actually enjoy the most are the bw ones, and then you get to wat 3 sc2 games, that noone really cares about, and the play is pathetic, it's just sad tbh. They should just go 90/10% bw as I said before or 100%, the way they do it now is just stupid - Why can't the bw people not just give up bwm why do they need to be nurtured (shitty word) for 5 months with having 50/50 bw/sc2 games, when noone really cares much about either since there's both at once.
To the bw people, you gotta get over the fact that bw is dead we all knew deep within that bw wouldnt live forever, hence it is an video game, and there will always come newer games, and new sequals for every game. And usually games wont last more that even 5 years (it's incredible that bw has even had such a huge scene for 10+ years), with all the amazing things that has happened in that game, from boxers tank dropship micro, to iloveoov's insane macro, to Saviors amazing strategic play and godly defiler use and to the pure mastery mechanically masterminds in Flash and Jaedong. It was some of the greatest years, but now it's over, and now there's a new game in sc2, and dont worry I'm sure that we'll see alot of amazing stuff in this game in the near future too. The game is really new, and the players have only touched the surface of the game so far, we have far from seen what players capable of doing with this game yet. So embrace the new game, it's an awesome game, and it shows some amazing games too.
tl:dr
BW is dead, get over it, now sc2 will take over, but dont worry, it's an awesome game!
If there it wasn't for that match fixing scandal, and a few IP rights lawsuits, I am almost sure sponsors would have still been really interested in BW and the switch wouldn't have been inevitable as it is today.
And by the way, it's really not respectful to say "BW is dead get over it". You can say something like that to someone who broke up with his girlfriend after a few months, because he can find a new one, probably a better one. But in this situation it's more like your wife of 12 years just died in a car accident and you ask us to get over it.
I'm really trying my best to stay polite with you.
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On May 23 2012 17:41 endy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 17:34 MadNeSs wrote:
I really hate it tbh. I understand that it's hard for them to just give up bw just like that, from one day to another. But I think htat it's pretty stupid that they play bw/sc2 50/50, they should just play bw 90/10%, or just go pure sc2 if you ask me. The players are really bad at sc2 atm, so it's kinda sad and pathetic to watch most of the sc2 games atm tbh. And the people who like to watch bw doesnt care that much about sc2, and same goes for the sc2 people. And nobody's getting shown how sc2 really is based on the way that the players kespa team players play so far. I think that it's really stupid that they play a hybrid league, instead of just going pure sc2.
As an ex bw follower, who practically stopped watching bw, when sc2 (yes, sadly I did, but bw wasnt very interesting anymore anyways to me) was released, when I turn on pl, the games I actually enjoy the most are the bw ones, and then you get to wat 3 sc2 games, that noone really cares about, and the play is pathetic, it's just sad tbh. They should just go 90/10% bw as I said before or 100%, the way they do it now is just stupid - Why can't the bw people not just give up bwm why do they need to be nurtured (shitty word) for 5 months with having 50/50 bw/sc2 games, when noone really cares much about either since there's both at once.
To the bw people, you gotta get over the fact that bw is dead we all knew deep within that bw wouldnt live forever, hence it is an video game, and there will always come newer games, and new sequals for every game. And usually games wont last more that even 5 years (it's incredible that bw has even had such a huge scene for 10+ years), with all the amazing things that has happened in that game, from boxers tank dropship micro, to iloveoov's insane macro, to Saviors amazing strategic play and godly defiler use and to the pure mastery mechanically masterminds in Flash and Jaedong. It was some of the greatest years, but now it's over, and now there's a new game in sc2, and dont worry I'm sure that we'll see alot of amazing stuff in this game in the near future too. The game is really new, and the players have only touched the surface of the game so far, we have far from seen what players capable of doing with this game yet. So embrace the new game, it's an awesome game, and it shows some amazing games too.
tl:dr
BW is dead, get over it, now sc2 will take over, but dont worry, it's an awesome game! If there it wasn't for that match fixing scandal, and a few IP rights lawsuits, I am almost sure sponsors would have still been really interested in BW and the switch wouldn't have been inevitable as it is today. And by the way, it's really not respectful to say "BW is dead get over it". You can say something like that to someone who broke up with his girlfriend after a few months, because he can find a new one, probably a better one. But in this situation it's more like your wife of 12 years just died in a car accident and you ask us to get over it. I'm really trying my best to stay polite with you.
Sometimes you need to be very direct for people to completely understand. And if you read past the tl:dr, you'd see that I've been very polite in my post.
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On May 23 2012 18:14 MadNeSs wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 17:41 endy wrote:On May 23 2012 17:34 MadNeSs wrote:
I really hate it tbh. I understand that it's hard for them to just give up bw just like that, from one day to another. But I think htat it's pretty stupid that they play bw/sc2 50/50, they should just play bw 90/10%, or just go pure sc2 if you ask me. The players are really bad at sc2 atm, so it's kinda sad and pathetic to watch most of the sc2 games atm tbh. And the people who like to watch bw doesnt care that much about sc2, and same goes for the sc2 people. And nobody's getting shown how sc2 really is based on the way that the players kespa team players play so far. I think that it's really stupid that they play a hybrid league, instead of just going pure sc2.
As an ex bw follower, who practically stopped watching bw, when sc2 (yes, sadly I did, but bw wasnt very interesting anymore anyways to me) was released, when I turn on pl, the games I actually enjoy the most are the bw ones, and then you get to wat 3 sc2 games, that noone really cares about, and the play is pathetic, it's just sad tbh. They should just go 90/10% bw as I said before or 100%, the way they do it now is just stupid - Why can't the bw people not just give up bwm why do they need to be nurtured (shitty word) for 5 months with having 50/50 bw/sc2 games, when noone really cares much about either since there's both at once.
To the bw people, you gotta get over the fact that bw is dead we all knew deep within that bw wouldnt live forever, hence it is an video game, and there will always come newer games, and new sequals for every game. And usually games wont last more that even 5 years (it's incredible that bw has even had such a huge scene for 10+ years), with all the amazing things that has happened in that game, from boxers tank dropship micro, to iloveoov's insane macro, to Saviors amazing strategic play and godly defiler use and to the pure mastery mechanically masterminds in Flash and Jaedong. It was some of the greatest years, but now it's over, and now there's a new game in sc2, and dont worry I'm sure that we'll see alot of amazing stuff in this game in the near future too. The game is really new, and the players have only touched the surface of the game so far, we have far from seen what players capable of doing with this game yet. So embrace the new game, it's an awesome game, and it shows some amazing games too.
tl:dr
BW is dead, get over it, now sc2 will take over, but dont worry, it's an awesome game! If there it wasn't for that match fixing scandal, and a few IP rights lawsuits, I am almost sure sponsors would have still been really interested in BW and the switch wouldn't have been inevitable as it is today. And by the way, it's really not respectful to say "BW is dead get over it". You can say something like that to someone who broke up with his girlfriend after a few months, because he can find a new one, probably a better one. But in this situation it's more like your wife of 12 years just died in a car accident and you ask us to get over it. I'm really trying my best to stay polite with you. Sometimes you need to be very direct for people to completely understand. And if you read past the tl:dr, you'd see that I've been very polite in my post.
I read the whole post, and I absolutely don't understand why you thought it was a good idea to add an irritating tl;dr.
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On May 23 2012 18:22 endy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 18:14 MadNeSs wrote:On May 23 2012 17:41 endy wrote:On May 23 2012 17:34 MadNeSs wrote:
I really hate it tbh. I understand that it's hard for them to just give up bw just like that, from one day to another. But I think htat it's pretty stupid that they play bw/sc2 50/50, they should just play bw 90/10%, or just go pure sc2 if you ask me. The players are really bad at sc2 atm, so it's kinda sad and pathetic to watch most of the sc2 games atm tbh. And the people who like to watch bw doesnt care that much about sc2, and same goes for the sc2 people. And nobody's getting shown how sc2 really is based on the way that the players kespa team players play so far. I think that it's really stupid that they play a hybrid league, instead of just going pure sc2.
As an ex bw follower, who practically stopped watching bw, when sc2 (yes, sadly I did, but bw wasnt very interesting anymore anyways to me) was released, when I turn on pl, the games I actually enjoy the most are the bw ones, and then you get to wat 3 sc2 games, that noone really cares about, and the play is pathetic, it's just sad tbh. They should just go 90/10% bw as I said before or 100%, the way they do it now is just stupid - Why can't the bw people not just give up bwm why do they need to be nurtured (shitty word) for 5 months with having 50/50 bw/sc2 games, when noone really cares much about either since there's both at once.
To the bw people, you gotta get over the fact that bw is dead we all knew deep within that bw wouldnt live forever, hence it is an video game, and there will always come newer games, and new sequals for every game. And usually games wont last more that even 5 years (it's incredible that bw has even had such a huge scene for 10+ years), with all the amazing things that has happened in that game, from boxers tank dropship micro, to iloveoov's insane macro, to Saviors amazing strategic play and godly defiler use and to the pure mastery mechanically masterminds in Flash and Jaedong. It was some of the greatest years, but now it's over, and now there's a new game in sc2, and dont worry I'm sure that we'll see alot of amazing stuff in this game in the near future too. The game is really new, and the players have only touched the surface of the game so far, we have far from seen what players capable of doing with this game yet. So embrace the new game, it's an awesome game, and it shows some amazing games too.
tl:dr
BW is dead, get over it, now sc2 will take over, but dont worry, it's an awesome game! If there it wasn't for that match fixing scandal, and a few IP rights lawsuits, I am almost sure sponsors would have still been really interested in BW and the switch wouldn't have been inevitable as it is today. And by the way, it's really not respectful to say "BW is dead get over it". You can say something like that to someone who broke up with his girlfriend after a few months, because he can find a new one, probably a better one. But in this situation it's more like your wife of 12 years just died in a car accident and you ask us to get over it. I'm really trying my best to stay polite with you. Sometimes you need to be very direct for people to completely understand. And if you read past the tl:dr, you'd see that I've been very polite in my post. I read the whole post, and I absolutely don't understand why you thought it was a good idea to add an irritating tl;dr.
I just wanted peoples attention, since people always read the tl:dr before deciding to read the whole thing.
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On May 23 2012 18:25 MadNeSs wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 18:22 endy wrote:On May 23 2012 18:14 MadNeSs wrote:On May 23 2012 17:41 endy wrote:On May 23 2012 17:34 MadNeSs wrote:
I really hate it tbh. I understand that it's hard for them to just give up bw just like that, from one day to another. But I think htat it's pretty stupid that they play bw/sc2 50/50, they should just play bw 90/10%, or just go pure sc2 if you ask me. The players are really bad at sc2 atm, so it's kinda sad and pathetic to watch most of the sc2 games atm tbh. And the people who like to watch bw doesnt care that much about sc2, and same goes for the sc2 people. And nobody's getting shown how sc2 really is based on the way that the players kespa team players play so far. I think that it's really stupid that they play a hybrid league, instead of just going pure sc2.
As an ex bw follower, who practically stopped watching bw, when sc2 (yes, sadly I did, but bw wasnt very interesting anymore anyways to me) was released, when I turn on pl, the games I actually enjoy the most are the bw ones, and then you get to wat 3 sc2 games, that noone really cares about, and the play is pathetic, it's just sad tbh. They should just go 90/10% bw as I said before or 100%, the way they do it now is just stupid - Why can't the bw people not just give up bwm why do they need to be nurtured (shitty word) for 5 months with having 50/50 bw/sc2 games, when noone really cares much about either since there's both at once.
To the bw people, you gotta get over the fact that bw is dead we all knew deep within that bw wouldnt live forever, hence it is an video game, and there will always come newer games, and new sequals for every game. And usually games wont last more that even 5 years (it's incredible that bw has even had such a huge scene for 10+ years), with all the amazing things that has happened in that game, from boxers tank dropship micro, to iloveoov's insane macro, to Saviors amazing strategic play and godly defiler use and to the pure mastery mechanically masterminds in Flash and Jaedong. It was some of the greatest years, but now it's over, and now there's a new game in sc2, and dont worry I'm sure that we'll see alot of amazing stuff in this game in the near future too. The game is really new, and the players have only touched the surface of the game so far, we have far from seen what players capable of doing with this game yet. So embrace the new game, it's an awesome game, and it shows some amazing games too.
tl:dr
BW is dead, get over it, now sc2 will take over, but dont worry, it's an awesome game! If there it wasn't for that match fixing scandal, and a few IP rights lawsuits, I am almost sure sponsors would have still been really interested in BW and the switch wouldn't have been inevitable as it is today. And by the way, it's really not respectful to say "BW is dead get over it". You can say something like that to someone who broke up with his girlfriend after a few months, because he can find a new one, probably a better one. But in this situation it's more like your wife of 12 years just died in a car accident and you ask us to get over it. I'm really trying my best to stay polite with you. Sometimes you need to be very direct for people to completely understand. And if you read past the tl:dr, you'd see that I've been very polite in my post. I read the whole post, and I absolutely don't understand why you thought it was a good idea to add an irritating tl;dr. I just wanted peoples attention.
What a good reason.
This is team liquid, there never is a good reason to add a tldr imho.
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As a SC2 fan I don't like it. Because the players are forced to train for two games and because they haven't been training for SC2 that long the SC2 games are generaly bad. BW players don't have to "omg its X playing!" factor for me so the games have been very boring for me.
I guess that for BW fans it isn't great either. I think it would have been better to just skip a proleague and make the next one all SC2.
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On May 23 2012 18:26 corumjhaelen wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 18:25 MadNeSs wrote:On May 23 2012 18:22 endy wrote:On May 23 2012 18:14 MadNeSs wrote:On May 23 2012 17:41 endy wrote:On May 23 2012 17:34 MadNeSs wrote:
I really hate it tbh. I understand that it's hard for them to just give up bw just like that, from one day to another. But I think htat it's pretty stupid that they play bw/sc2 50/50, they should just play bw 90/10%, or just go pure sc2 if you ask me. The players are really bad at sc2 atm, so it's kinda sad and pathetic to watch most of the sc2 games atm tbh. And the people who like to watch bw doesnt care that much about sc2, and same goes for the sc2 people. And nobody's getting shown how sc2 really is based on the way that the players kespa team players play so far. I think that it's really stupid that they play a hybrid league, instead of just going pure sc2.
As an ex bw follower, who practically stopped watching bw, when sc2 (yes, sadly I did, but bw wasnt very interesting anymore anyways to me) was released, when I turn on pl, the games I actually enjoy the most are the bw ones, and then you get to wat 3 sc2 games, that noone really cares about, and the play is pathetic, it's just sad tbh. They should just go 90/10% bw as I said before or 100%, the way they do it now is just stupid - Why can't the bw people not just give up bwm why do they need to be nurtured (shitty word) for 5 months with having 50/50 bw/sc2 games, when noone really cares much about either since there's both at once.
To the bw people, you gotta get over the fact that bw is dead we all knew deep within that bw wouldnt live forever, hence it is an video game, and there will always come newer games, and new sequals for every game. And usually games wont last more that even 5 years (it's incredible that bw has even had such a huge scene for 10+ years), with all the amazing things that has happened in that game, from boxers tank dropship micro, to iloveoov's insane macro, to Saviors amazing strategic play and godly defiler use and to the pure mastery mechanically masterminds in Flash and Jaedong. It was some of the greatest years, but now it's over, and now there's a new game in sc2, and dont worry I'm sure that we'll see alot of amazing stuff in this game in the near future too. The game is really new, and the players have only touched the surface of the game so far, we have far from seen what players capable of doing with this game yet. So embrace the new game, it's an awesome game, and it shows some amazing games too.
tl:dr
BW is dead, get over it, now sc2 will take over, but dont worry, it's an awesome game! If there it wasn't for that match fixing scandal, and a few IP rights lawsuits, I am almost sure sponsors would have still been really interested in BW and the switch wouldn't have been inevitable as it is today. And by the way, it's really not respectful to say "BW is dead get over it". You can say something like that to someone who broke up with his girlfriend after a few months, because he can find a new one, probably a better one. But in this situation it's more like your wife of 12 years just died in a car accident and you ask us to get over it. I'm really trying my best to stay polite with you. Sometimes you need to be very direct for people to completely understand. And if you read past the tl:dr, you'd see that I've been very polite in my post. I read the whole post, and I absolutely don't understand why you thought it was a good idea to add an irritating tl;dr. I just wanted peoples attention. What a good reason. This is team liquid, there never is a good reason to add a tldr imho.
whatever, TL.net is different now than it was just 2 years ago.
Also you only find it annoying, because you cant handle the harsh truth, that bw is dead, and will be dead forever.
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I think they should remove SC2, because SC2 has so many tournaments and no one really cares about it. BW only has PL and OSL (and ISL if you count foreigner events), so better let SC2 be SC2 and BW be BW.
Broodwar for life :D
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On May 23 2012 18:31 MadNeSs wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 18:26 corumjhaelen wrote:On May 23 2012 18:25 MadNeSs wrote:On May 23 2012 18:22 endy wrote:On May 23 2012 18:14 MadNeSs wrote:On May 23 2012 17:41 endy wrote:On May 23 2012 17:34 MadNeSs wrote:
I really hate it tbh. I understand that it's hard for them to just give up bw just like that, from one day to another. But I think htat it's pretty stupid that they play bw/sc2 50/50, they should just play bw 90/10%, or just go pure sc2 if you ask me. The players are really bad at sc2 atm, so it's kinda sad and pathetic to watch most of the sc2 games atm tbh. And the people who like to watch bw doesnt care that much about sc2, and same goes for the sc2 people. And nobody's getting shown how sc2 really is based on the way that the players kespa team players play so far. I think that it's really stupid that they play a hybrid league, instead of just going pure sc2.
As an ex bw follower, who practically stopped watching bw, when sc2 (yes, sadly I did, but bw wasnt very interesting anymore anyways to me) was released, when I turn on pl, the games I actually enjoy the most are the bw ones, and then you get to wat 3 sc2 games, that noone really cares about, and the play is pathetic, it's just sad tbh. They should just go 90/10% bw as I said before or 100%, the way they do it now is just stupid - Why can't the bw people not just give up bwm why do they need to be nurtured (shitty word) for 5 months with having 50/50 bw/sc2 games, when noone really cares much about either since there's both at once.
To the bw people, you gotta get over the fact that bw is dead we all knew deep within that bw wouldnt live forever, hence it is an video game, and there will always come newer games, and new sequals for every game. And usually games wont last more that even 5 years (it's incredible that bw has even had such a huge scene for 10+ years), with all the amazing things that has happened in that game, from boxers tank dropship micro, to iloveoov's insane macro, to Saviors amazing strategic play and godly defiler use and to the pure mastery mechanically masterminds in Flash and Jaedong. It was some of the greatest years, but now it's over, and now there's a new game in sc2, and dont worry I'm sure that we'll see alot of amazing stuff in this game in the near future too. The game is really new, and the players have only touched the surface of the game so far, we have far from seen what players capable of doing with this game yet. So embrace the new game, it's an awesome game, and it shows some amazing games too.
tl:dr
BW is dead, get over it, now sc2 will take over, but dont worry, it's an awesome game! If there it wasn't for that match fixing scandal, and a few IP rights lawsuits, I am almost sure sponsors would have still been really interested in BW and the switch wouldn't have been inevitable as it is today. And by the way, it's really not respectful to say "BW is dead get over it". You can say something like that to someone who broke up with his girlfriend after a few months, because he can find a new one, probably a better one. But in this situation it's more like your wife of 12 years just died in a car accident and you ask us to get over it. I'm really trying my best to stay polite with you. Sometimes you need to be very direct for people to completely understand. And if you read past the tl:dr, you'd see that I've been very polite in my post. I read the whole post, and I absolutely don't understand why you thought it was a good idea to add an irritating tl;dr. I just wanted peoples attention. What a good reason. This is team liquid, there never is a good reason to add a tldr imho. whatever, TL.net is different now than it was just 2 years ago. Also you only find it annoying, because you cant handle the harsh truth, that bw is dead, and will be dead forever.
Your attitude isn't making it a better place that's for sure.
As for your formidable edit, I must ask what the hell you know about me and bw ? Classy in any case.
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On May 23 2012 18:39 corumjhaelen wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 18:31 MadNeSs wrote:On May 23 2012 18:26 corumjhaelen wrote:On May 23 2012 18:25 MadNeSs wrote:On May 23 2012 18:22 endy wrote:On May 23 2012 18:14 MadNeSs wrote:On May 23 2012 17:41 endy wrote:On May 23 2012 17:34 MadNeSs wrote:
I really hate it tbh. I understand that it's hard for them to just give up bw just like that, from one day to another. But I think htat it's pretty stupid that they play bw/sc2 50/50, they should just play bw 90/10%, or just go pure sc2 if you ask me. The players are really bad at sc2 atm, so it's kinda sad and pathetic to watch most of the sc2 games atm tbh. And the people who like to watch bw doesnt care that much about sc2, and same goes for the sc2 people. And nobody's getting shown how sc2 really is based on the way that the players kespa team players play so far. I think that it's really stupid that they play a hybrid league, instead of just going pure sc2.
As an ex bw follower, who practically stopped watching bw, when sc2 (yes, sadly I did, but bw wasnt very interesting anymore anyways to me) was released, when I turn on pl, the games I actually enjoy the most are the bw ones, and then you get to wat 3 sc2 games, that noone really cares about, and the play is pathetic, it's just sad tbh. They should just go 90/10% bw as I said before or 100%, the way they do it now is just stupid - Why can't the bw people not just give up bwm why do they need to be nurtured (shitty word) for 5 months with having 50/50 bw/sc2 games, when noone really cares much about either since there's both at once.
To the bw people, you gotta get over the fact that bw is dead we all knew deep within that bw wouldnt live forever, hence it is an video game, and there will always come newer games, and new sequals for every game. And usually games wont last more that even 5 years (it's incredible that bw has even had such a huge scene for 10+ years), with all the amazing things that has happened in that game, from boxers tank dropship micro, to iloveoov's insane macro, to Saviors amazing strategic play and godly defiler use and to the pure mastery mechanically masterminds in Flash and Jaedong. It was some of the greatest years, but now it's over, and now there's a new game in sc2, and dont worry I'm sure that we'll see alot of amazing stuff in this game in the near future too. The game is really new, and the players have only touched the surface of the game so far, we have far from seen what players capable of doing with this game yet. So embrace the new game, it's an awesome game, and it shows some amazing games too.
tl:dr
BW is dead, get over it, now sc2 will take over, but dont worry, it's an awesome game! If there it wasn't for that match fixing scandal, and a few IP rights lawsuits, I am almost sure sponsors would have still been really interested in BW and the switch wouldn't have been inevitable as it is today. And by the way, it's really not respectful to say "BW is dead get over it". You can say something like that to someone who broke up with his girlfriend after a few months, because he can find a new one, probably a better one. But in this situation it's more like your wife of 12 years just died in a car accident and you ask us to get over it. I'm really trying my best to stay polite with you. Sometimes you need to be very direct for people to completely understand. And if you read past the tl:dr, you'd see that I've been very polite in my post. I read the whole post, and I absolutely don't understand why you thought it was a good idea to add an irritating tl;dr. I just wanted peoples attention. What a good reason. This is team liquid, there never is a good reason to add a tldr imho. whatever, TL.net is different now than it was just 2 years ago. Also you only find it annoying, because you cant handle the harsh truth, that bw is dead, and will be dead forever. Your attitude isn't making it a better place that's for sure. As for your formidable edit, I must ask what the hell you know about me and bw ? Classy in any case.
I've followed bw since late 2006, that's what the hell I know about bw.
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On May 23 2012 18:44 MadNeSs wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 18:39 corumjhaelen wrote:On May 23 2012 18:31 MadNeSs wrote:On May 23 2012 18:26 corumjhaelen wrote:On May 23 2012 18:25 MadNeSs wrote:On May 23 2012 18:22 endy wrote:On May 23 2012 18:14 MadNeSs wrote:On May 23 2012 17:41 endy wrote:On May 23 2012 17:34 MadNeSs wrote:
I really hate it tbh. I understand that it's hard for them to just give up bw just like that, from one day to another. But I think htat it's pretty stupid that they play bw/sc2 50/50, they should just play bw 90/10%, or just go pure sc2 if you ask me. The players are really bad at sc2 atm, so it's kinda sad and pathetic to watch most of the sc2 games atm tbh. And the people who like to watch bw doesnt care that much about sc2, and same goes for the sc2 people. And nobody's getting shown how sc2 really is based on the way that the players kespa team players play so far. I think that it's really stupid that they play a hybrid league, instead of just going pure sc2.
As an ex bw follower, who practically stopped watching bw, when sc2 (yes, sadly I did, but bw wasnt very interesting anymore anyways to me) was released, when I turn on pl, the games I actually enjoy the most are the bw ones, and then you get to wat 3 sc2 games, that noone really cares about, and the play is pathetic, it's just sad tbh. They should just go 90/10% bw as I said before or 100%, the way they do it now is just stupid - Why can't the bw people not just give up bwm why do they need to be nurtured (shitty word) for 5 months with having 50/50 bw/sc2 games, when noone really cares much about either since there's both at once.
To the bw people, you gotta get over the fact that bw is dead we all knew deep within that bw wouldnt live forever, hence it is an video game, and there will always come newer games, and new sequals for every game. And usually games wont last more that even 5 years (it's incredible that bw has even had such a huge scene for 10+ years), with all the amazing things that has happened in that game, from boxers tank dropship micro, to iloveoov's insane macro, to Saviors amazing strategic play and godly defiler use and to the pure mastery mechanically masterminds in Flash and Jaedong. It was some of the greatest years, but now it's over, and now there's a new game in sc2, and dont worry I'm sure that we'll see alot of amazing stuff in this game in the near future too. The game is really new, and the players have only touched the surface of the game so far, we have far from seen what players capable of doing with this game yet. So embrace the new game, it's an awesome game, and it shows some amazing games too.
tl:dr
BW is dead, get over it, now sc2 will take over, but dont worry, it's an awesome game! If there it wasn't for that match fixing scandal, and a few IP rights lawsuits, I am almost sure sponsors would have still been really interested in BW and the switch wouldn't have been inevitable as it is today. And by the way, it's really not respectful to say "BW is dead get over it". You can say something like that to someone who broke up with his girlfriend after a few months, because he can find a new one, probably a better one. But in this situation it's more like your wife of 12 years just died in a car accident and you ask us to get over it. I'm really trying my best to stay polite with you. Sometimes you need to be very direct for people to completely understand. And if you read past the tl:dr, you'd see that I've been very polite in my post. I read the whole post, and I absolutely don't understand why you thought it was a good idea to add an irritating tl;dr. I just wanted peoples attention. What a good reason. This is team liquid, there never is a good reason to add a tldr imho. whatever, TL.net is different now than it was just 2 years ago. Also you only find it annoying, because you cant handle the harsh truth, that bw is dead, and will be dead forever. Your attitude isn't making it a better place that's for sure. As for your formidable edit, I must ask what the hell you know about me and bw ? Classy in any case. I've followed bw since late 2006, that's what the hell I know about bw.
I said about "me and bw", referencing the fact that bw would be dead and that i wouldn't be able to handle the truth.
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On May 23 2012 18:49 corumjhaelen wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 18:44 MadNeSs wrote:On May 23 2012 18:39 corumjhaelen wrote:On May 23 2012 18:31 MadNeSs wrote:On May 23 2012 18:26 corumjhaelen wrote:On May 23 2012 18:25 MadNeSs wrote:On May 23 2012 18:22 endy wrote:On May 23 2012 18:14 MadNeSs wrote:On May 23 2012 17:41 endy wrote:On May 23 2012 17:34 MadNeSs wrote:
I really hate it tbh. I understand that it's hard for them to just give up bw just like that, from one day to another. But I think htat it's pretty stupid that they play bw/sc2 50/50, they should just play bw 90/10%, or just go pure sc2 if you ask me. The players are really bad at sc2 atm, so it's kinda sad and pathetic to watch most of the sc2 games atm tbh. And the people who like to watch bw doesnt care that much about sc2, and same goes for the sc2 people. And nobody's getting shown how sc2 really is based on the way that the players kespa team players play so far. I think that it's really stupid that they play a hybrid league, instead of just going pure sc2.
As an ex bw follower, who practically stopped watching bw, when sc2 (yes, sadly I did, but bw wasnt very interesting anymore anyways to me) was released, when I turn on pl, the games I actually enjoy the most are the bw ones, and then you get to wat 3 sc2 games, that noone really cares about, and the play is pathetic, it's just sad tbh. They should just go 90/10% bw as I said before or 100%, the way they do it now is just stupid - Why can't the bw people not just give up bwm why do they need to be nurtured (shitty word) for 5 months with having 50/50 bw/sc2 games, when noone really cares much about either since there's both at once.
To the bw people, you gotta get over the fact that bw is dead we all knew deep within that bw wouldnt live forever, hence it is an video game, and there will always come newer games, and new sequals for every game. And usually games wont last more that even 5 years (it's incredible that bw has even had such a huge scene for 10+ years), with all the amazing things that has happened in that game, from boxers tank dropship micro, to iloveoov's insane macro, to Saviors amazing strategic play and godly defiler use and to the pure mastery mechanically masterminds in Flash and Jaedong. It was some of the greatest years, but now it's over, and now there's a new game in sc2, and dont worry I'm sure that we'll see alot of amazing stuff in this game in the near future too. The game is really new, and the players have only touched the surface of the game so far, we have far from seen what players capable of doing with this game yet. So embrace the new game, it's an awesome game, and it shows some amazing games too.
tl:dr
BW is dead, get over it, now sc2 will take over, but dont worry, it's an awesome game! If there it wasn't for that match fixing scandal, and a few IP rights lawsuits, I am almost sure sponsors would have still been really interested in BW and the switch wouldn't have been inevitable as it is today. And by the way, it's really not respectful to say "BW is dead get over it". You can say something like that to someone who broke up with his girlfriend after a few months, because he can find a new one, probably a better one. But in this situation it's more like your wife of 12 years just died in a car accident and you ask us to get over it. I'm really trying my best to stay polite with you. Sometimes you need to be very direct for people to completely understand. And if you read past the tl:dr, you'd see that I've been very polite in my post. I read the whole post, and I absolutely don't understand why you thought it was a good idea to add an irritating tl;dr. I just wanted peoples attention. What a good reason. This is team liquid, there never is a good reason to add a tldr imho. whatever, TL.net is different now than it was just 2 years ago. Also you only find it annoying, because you cant handle the harsh truth, that bw is dead, and will be dead forever. Your attitude isn't making it a better place that's for sure. As for your formidable edit, I must ask what the hell you know about me and bw ? Classy in any case. I've followed bw since late 2006, that's what the hell I know about bw. I said about "me and bw", referencing the fact that bw would be dead and that i wouldn't be able to handle the truth.
You're just a bitter bw fan, who cant let go of the game - Why am I even argueing with you?
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On May 23 2012 17:41 endy wrote:
And by the way, it's really not respectful to say "BW is dead get over it". You can say something like that to someone who broke up with his girlfriend after a few months, because he can find a new one, probably a better one. But in this situation it's more like your wife of 12 years just died in a car accident and you ask us to get over it.
I'm really trying my best to stay polite with you.
Its a game. Not a person. Dear jesus. Are you even reading what you're saying?
Its. A. Game.
A good one, that has lasted a long time, but a game.
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I don't like it.
One: it's to stressful for the players
Two: I never liked the SKP for the absence of decent English commentary
Three: the quality of the SC2-games aren't what they should be.
It would be better if there was a last BW-season and then give the KesPa-teams some time for a transition.
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There's no option that I really like, the neutral one is close, but I don't feel it's a 'necessary' step per se.
Being a long time BW casual player and more recently a SC2 player, I personally feel that this puts far too much emphasis on the SC2 games. I would have preferred it to be done in a slower fashion, and not have the transition so jarring. It puts far too much strain on the players. Not to mention teams are pretty much not allowed to have snipers for SC2 if they so desired...
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It pretty much reduces the skill level of either game. I don't think I'm going to watch this season... as the first day was pretty meh.
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