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What do you think of the hybrid BW/SC2 Proleague? - Page 2

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krnboyxjin
Profile Joined April 2011
United States98 Posts
May 22 2012 21:33 GMT
#21
kill it pleaseeeeee mixing those two up makes the whole thing bad T.T
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Ebzy
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom153 Posts
May 22 2012 21:50 GMT
#22
On May 23 2012 06:14 INTOtheVOID wrote:
It's horrible, and I can't believe that anyone would support this idea, be it sponsors, players, fans, etc. Either keep BW and SC2 separate, or full on transition to SC2. Having this mix only lowers the quality of games. I watched the first night of this new proleague, and it was terrible to see. As a BW fan, the games were sloppy and not even near the quality of the games that took place this past proleague season. As a SC2 fan, it was like watching GSL season 1 all over again. So yes....

Kill that abomination with fire


Its actually worse than GSL season 1, because as fans we've got used to Sc2 getting close (ish) to brood war and often much more refined play. As we know these players could play so much better and are now used to better its even worse IMO.
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lFlippyl
Profile Joined November 2010
United States147 Posts
May 22 2012 21:53 GMT
#23
It's OK, but it would have worked much better to have the Game 7 ace match in BW.
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Azoimide
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden4 Posts
May 22 2012 22:05 GMT
#24
Voted kill it but now when i think about it I'm actually really curious about how well flash will do in like 6 months
Ejohrik
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden219 Posts
May 22 2012 22:18 GMT
#25
I am a SC2 fan, but it feels very strange to me to mix both games in the same league. Let BW players play BW as long as they want to and as long as people want to watch. It's sad to see the the players being forced to play a very different game.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
May 22 2012 22:26 GMT
#26
On May 23 2012 03:42 ZergMaestro wrote:
the ace game being sc2 is a bit wierd, but its a cool idea.

Yeah. you would figure you want to slowly phase in SC2.Then again, it might accelerate the process.
Kanil
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1713 Posts
May 22 2012 22:27 GMT
#27
Mixed Proleague is awful. You get bad BW games that nobody really wants to watch, and even worse SC2 games that nobody really wants to watch.

It's really the worst of both worlds.
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MentalGNT
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1264 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-22 22:35:24
May 22 2012 22:29 GMT
#28
On May 23 2012 07:05 Azoimide wrote:
Voted kill it but now when i think about it I'm actually really curious about how well flash will do in like 6 months

Since PL will most likely transition 100 % to SC2 after this season, I think Flash is gonna do very well as he will be able to focus completely on one game.

On topic: I accidentally voted "it's a necessary transition" but I really do not like the format. I have mostly been involved in SC2 but I have watched a fair share of BW as well (Thanks to Sayle's rebroadcasts. I love you Sayle). However, the level of play in the SC2 matches are of an extremely low level compared to the GSL players, and the quality of the BW games suffer as well. You see good BW players make sloppy mistakes and the SC2 matches are just filled with strategic faults as well.
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Tx3Jorge
Profile Joined September 2011
United States32 Posts
May 22 2012 22:33 GMT
#29
as a spectator i find it very entertaining, but i can see how it would be unpopular with players.
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corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
May 22 2012 22:39 GMT
#30
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=339466
Worst idea ever.
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TheSwamp
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1497 Posts
May 22 2012 22:50 GMT
#31
I've only watched a couple of BW tournaments and even I can tell the quality of games has dropped off. They should have done something like an all-star showmatch for BW and then just made the league SC2.
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Kittan
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland3999 Posts
May 22 2012 23:09 GMT
#32
When rumours of Sc2 being mixed in the Proleague surfaced, they were dismissed out of hand because everyone said that the games would be so bad that all fans would run away in terror. When the rumours turned into reality, our reactions were exactly the same: the format is bad for everyone, period. Bad for the pros, bad for coaches, bad for broadcasters and bad for the fans.We've been getting mediocre at best bw games for the whole SKPlanet S1 back when 'practicing sc2' was a running joke/excuse for losing. Now it is no joke. Practicing for both games is a strain and stress that progamers don't need.

Audience hates it (see turnout of proleague vs starleague). We hate it. SC2 fans hate it/ignore it because the game quality is probably as bad as bw. We asked for bw to at least go with dignity. We were denied

Kill it with fire.
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SolarJto
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States260 Posts
May 22 2012 23:42 GMT
#33
Haha I love the poll options
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GuitarBizarre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom332 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-23 00:48:20
May 23 2012 00:41 GMT
#34
Amusing to see that the poll is 70% neutral or positive, but the people who are loud enough to be crying in this thread have made the comments 90% kill it with fire.


Seems to me like a bad case of Apple Mac syndrome. A small but vocal minority making stupid decisions and comments while shouting three times as loudly and frequently as everyone else. End result? Everyone thinks there are more people like that than there actually are.

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Clbull
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1439 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-23 01:58:24
May 23 2012 01:58 GMT
#35
I chose "Not so hot, but it's a necessary transition.step." I think it would have been too harsh to want it to burn to the ground but I don't think it's a good idea.

For me, the Brood War games have been questionable because I am not used to the dated graphics and different units. SC2 on the other hand just feels less exciting than watching even master level players duke it out.

However, I think one game or the other should be picked exclusively. This is StarCraft, not chess boxing we're talking about. And if players have to practice two games simultaneously then understandably they are going to decline in both games.
TenJin`Lucian
Profile Joined August 2011
Costa Rica158 Posts
May 23 2012 02:12 GMT
#36
In the noble words of Toby:

Damn it to hell!!

The quality of the BW games is awful, and the sc2 games are even worse, if you want to switch from BW to sc2, then do it, don't just mix them up like this.
RiPPy
Profile Joined March 2012
Norway23 Posts
May 23 2012 02:43 GMT
#37
Time to end BW once and for all!
gForce.
Profile Joined January 2010
United Kingdom345 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-23 02:50:37
May 23 2012 02:46 GMT
#38
I don't know, it's just that personally for me watching both games doesn't feel right, I can't understand BW anymore and it doesn't appeal to me anymore, SC2 games are bad, that's understandable but still it's no fun.
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
May 23 2012 03:17 GMT
#39
It's an abomination, and extremely unfair to the players, especially those still in the OSL.
checo
Profile Joined November 2008
Mexico1364 Posts
May 23 2012 03:49 GMT
#40
practice 2 diferent games, be bad at both.... stick with one please i cant enjoy sc2 games cause they are relative low level and our BW pros are gona start droping the ball cause they must practice for sc2 too now
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