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Valor55
Profile Joined August 2011
United States11 Posts
February 19 2012 05:48 GMT
#181
I had no issues whatsoever with purchasing a GSL season ticket and as it would seem many people(including myself) use it as a benchmark for quality and payment structure.

That being said, I feel MLG content is far inferior(add to it that there's simply far less content) to a GSL subscription. I understand the motivation to move to a PPV structure, but you'd think that they would have evaluated their product and price point a bit more thoroughly before coming out with this as it really makes no sense given the other products out there.

Ultimately I'll be voting with my dollar come MLG day and will not be paying to view.
Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
February 19 2012 07:12 GMT
#182
On February 19 2012 08:29 slammered wrote:
do other sports fans have to pay to watch their sport? no, commercials, advertisements, and charisma all get them their funding.


Yes?
...deeper and deeper into the bowels of El Diablo
Mingle
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom26 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-19 12:32:29
February 19 2012 12:31 GMT
#183
Its a measly 20 bucks or about 15 pounds for me, im planning on spending more than that on beer to have while watching it!

Edit: We all say we want to see e-sports grow, well this is one of the viable ways to make it grow.
StrafeJD
Profile Joined November 2011
United States39 Posts
February 19 2012 16:08 GMT
#184
This is the dumbest thing I've ever seen, this is worse than NASL. they are going to lose soo many viewer, and with them in competition with out tournanments maybe the players will choose to go to those instead of MLG because of the loss of viewers.
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NotTheMonker
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States131 Posts
February 19 2012 16:52 GMT
#185
I think it depends more on my plans that weekend. If I'm doing something else, I'll be more ok with missing it. If I'm not doing anything, I'll certainly pay the 20 bucks because I really enjoy watching the MLG's live.
You cant be a good rapper without rhymes, and you cant be a good Pokemon trainer without CATCHING MORE POKEMON.
WeavingHarp9
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden23 Posts
February 19 2012 19:55 GMT
#186
While sports are stepping away from pay-per-view MLG decides to step towards it? The future is like some already have said, commercials, advertisements, sponsors and of course, seat tickets(aka live content) and I for one does not consider a stream to be live content. Live content is when you visit one of the events and can see the players. Have the viewers pay for that instead like in real life. I for one wont pay for this, one because I feel screwed over being a gold member and for one having to pay way way more to watch SC2 on tv then any other sport i follow(soccer is free, tennis is free and pool is free if you dont count paying for the channel theyre on and that is something I feel I'm doing as a Gold Member at MLG)

With that said I think MLG have made a mistake with this and if they go plus with this I doubt they needed to take that much for the ticket could have lowered it and gotten alot more customers.
6pool much!?
cameler
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada99 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-19 20:08:18
February 19 2012 20:07 GMT
#187
I do feel bad saying this, but I would NEVER pay to watch SC2 when I can watch great streamers already making good bucks or just streaming for the love of the audience and some dollars. I get my fix from underground players like kuroa, kawaiirice, and that blackla guy.

What would make me pay to watch MLG? I dont really get all personal and I dont have favourite players like the children these days. OMG IDRA OMG HUK I LUV MORROW 4LIEK EVA... yeah that aint me, and I wont be paying to watch anyone play a game of SC2 for a loooong time.

Boneheaded move imo.
Everyday I thank God I escaped from the Starcraft universe when I did. Saved so many hours of my life.
WeavingHarp9
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden23 Posts
February 19 2012 20:28 GMT
#188
For me its really not about the players, its much more about the casters tbh. if I would have a favourite it would prolly be Thorzain or Naniwa but in the end Im happy with quality matches with good casting. Watching pov is not my thing and I'd gladly pay for watching sc2(I am) but there's a limit really. +200usd per year to watch sc2? thats alot more then I have ever payed for soccer or tennis :C (not counting watching them at a stadium ofc)
6pool much!?
Tx3Jorge
Profile Joined September 2011
United States32 Posts
February 19 2012 21:49 GMT
#189
20 dollars for a 3 day tournament is too much. thats how much a gsl season ticket costs which has a higher production value, produces better games, and lasts a whole month.
smd bro, smd.
CROrens
Profile Joined May 2007
Croatia1005 Posts
February 19 2012 23:14 GMT
#190
ill put it this way. there is no sport in the world you have to pay to watch, why should it be so with esports then?
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FenrirSc2
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3 Posts
February 20 2012 02:52 GMT
#191
20 dollars is more than reasonable for 20 hours of gameplay. I spend upwards to 10 dollars for 2 hours of a movie at a movie theater. All that 20 dollars is saying is that MLG believes that e-sports is getting big enough to support it, and from my perspective that is really good for everyone. Plus there are more than enough ways to pool 20 bucks ranging from friends grouping together to watch it or just going to a Barcraft is you are of age. But, in all honesty if you still feel like you are being ripped off you can wait a week for them to put all the games online!!
Lastly, all matches will of course be made available free to everyone as VOD, one week after the Arena wraps up.
It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity.
Grimberht
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada6 Posts
February 20 2012 04:48 GMT
#192
Honestly, I wouldn't have care to paid for it. 20$ for participating in growing eSport aint a big deal... but since I've been spit in the face for being a Gold member... I won't.

Revoked my gold membership too... I dont blame Sundance, I think he's been put into a tough spot, but hey! I dont like the way we've been treated and they should be ashamed of doing such bad business at a time like this... They want to suck the money from the suckers who already paid... oh well!! Goodluck with you're ingenious business model!

2012 look like it couldve have been the year of eSport... but greed is ruining it.

Shame on those who think their money make them intitled to drain out the growth of this communty and a big round of applause to all those who are working tirelessly for little money\no money to make it happen!!! Its gonna be from the ground up... not from the top down!


All the world's a stage and men merely players!
NEEDZMOAR
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1277 Posts
February 20 2012 10:10 GMT
#193
On February 15 2012 07:53 VIPlol wrote:
I feel like most people in this community wants everything to be handed out free to 'em :S



Nothing's free. When we watch streams of other things we "pay" by being manipulated by commercials and sponsors.
RaZaCGaming
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands4 Posts
February 20 2012 10:48 GMT
#194
On February 15 2012 08:09 eXigent. wrote:
man there seems to be such an uproar about shelling out a measly $20. I can make that in less than an hour at work...why are people soo thrifty? I guarantee 99% of you have spent $20 on something alot stupider than a MLG ticket.


I have to work about 2.5 hours to get $20... And then the fact that the streams will most likely run while i'm sleeping makes it completely usesless for me. A pity i loved MLG last year
Barleyarley
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom20 Posts
February 20 2012 15:08 GMT
#195
I'm not particularly happy about it, I have been a Halo fan for a long time so have followed MLG for a while, I was very pleased to see they would be hosting SC2 at their events but I don't understand why they have to change to a model that charges the viewer so much.

They have been running an extremely successful business model that runs off of advertising revenue for a long time, I see no long term benefits from cutting the viewership that they have built up just to make a little extra at the expense of their fans.Why change a popular and successful model?
SohcranA
Profile Joined November 2010
United States36 Posts
February 20 2012 17:54 GMT
#196
GSL is more content, for less money, with better games. I don't know where MLG gets the nerve.
VanBuKK
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany6 Posts
February 20 2012 18:11 GMT
#197
lol they loose 70% of the<<r viewers ^^ american capitalism
Quoten Knoten
jarf1337
Profile Joined July 2010
United States146 Posts
February 20 2012 18:58 GMT
#198
This thread makes me want to buy multiple tickets. The good things in life aren't free.
wut kan i dew
Sejanus
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Lithuania550 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-20 19:12:16
February 20 2012 19:11 GMT
#199
It starts to look like everyone's trying to cash in from E-Sports as much as possible while it lasts...

Well lets just repeat the "It's good for the E-Sports" mantra and hand over our money. (Not really).
Friends don't let friends massacre civilians
KrsOne
Profile Joined March 2011
United States64 Posts
February 20 2012 21:02 GMT
#200
20$ for 3 days of Starcraft is laughable.
Life is to short so love the one you got, cause you might get run over or you might get shot-Sublime
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