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How do you feel about MLG's new PPV model? - Page 11
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Frostmister
Sweden77 Posts
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kittensrcute
United States617 Posts
On February 20 2012 01:08 StrafeJD wrote: This is the dumbest thing I've ever seen, this is worse than NASL. they are going to lose soo many viewer, and with them in competition with out tournanments maybe the players will choose to go to those instead of MLG because of the loss of viewers. Worse than NASL? I don't think I'd go that far. But I do think MLG should have started off with a $10 fee or coupled some deals with Gold/Silver membership. | ||
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The_Darkness
United States910 Posts
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Cratosch
Germany8 Posts
Allthough I make a lot more than 20$ an hour I would never ever pay 20$ for a single SC2 tournament. I think for 1/4th of the price you would get at least 5 times the viewers. The TL-Poll represents allready the hardcore SC2-fans. You Can't extrapolate from that. Outside TL even less people will be willing to pay that amount of money. Outside of North America this will attract very few people. In Germany pay-TV as a whole is a failure. Germans in general are not willing to pay money for TV. WWE-PPVs for example cost 15€, Wrestlemania 20€. Those PPVs don't get even 10.000 buys in Germany. I would bet 20$ that not even 100 people from Germany will buy that MLG-ticket. Then there are lots of countries where 20$ are actually a lot of money. I think its a shame to have a tournament with some of the best players and only a few 1.000 people watching. I honestly don't believe that that is the way to grow. Imagine you are trying to recrute a friend to watch SC2: "Hey...you really should watch this...where? Online!...You do have a credit card, have you?....Why?...costs 20 bucks of course!....Thats not to much, it's a bargain! Nestea is playing!.... Who Nestea is? Man!" | ||
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Aserrin
Uruguay231 Posts
But I think the worst will be if they try to put the blame on the viewers for not supporting the event, instead of themselves. Who wants to bet? | ||
Ordained
United States779 Posts
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famousfrank
Sweden2 Posts
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m0ck
4194 Posts
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MrBenybob
United Kingdom2 Posts
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Svennedude
Belgium86 Posts
On February 15 2012 13:59 dAPhREAk wrote: shame on a business to try and make money off its product. mlg started out small with sc2 and has invested a lot of money into making it a bigger and better tournament. they should be able to profit off their investment. the market will determine whether it is successful. they are already makings money trough the ads and all the people coming to the tournament. it actually just means like any other company they want to make "more" money. its not like they woudn't survive with out it. companies just feel like they have to have a few million/billion banked for some reason. (once a company smells money it only gets worse) | ||
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mangomango
United States265 Posts
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Mnemosyne13
Sweden3 Posts
On February 15 2012 07:53 VIPlol wrote: I feel like most people in this community wants everything to be handed out free to 'em :S If you pay or not depends on your economic situation vs how good you find the service to be. I dont like commercials but I prefer that over paying with a credit card. Everyone wants my money no matter where I go, its not an unlimited resource for me. Except for that im not too happy about using my credit card over the internet. I wont even pay 50 cent for this. But I dont mind watching 10 ad,s. Theres not one buissness model that fits everyone, you need several to catch as many "customers" as possible. | ||
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raginglemon
Japan64 Posts
On February 21 2012 16:56 Ordained wrote: Starcraft is just not a "sport" that people are willing to pay money to watch apparently. People are willing to pay, but I believe people aren't willing to pay $20 for what MLG is offering. The gom tickets are much better value for your eSports dollar when you compare to the two content producers. Currently SC2 just isn't a big enough sport to warrant PPV type of subscription, there aren't many sports out there that are (UFC and Boxing are the only ones that come to mind, all other sports have moved away from the PPV model). | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On February 21 2012 23:24 Svennedude wrote: they are already makings money trough the ads and all the people coming to the tournament. it actually just means like any other company they want to make "more" money. its not like they woudn't survive with out it. companies just feel like they have to have a few million/billion banked for some reason. (once a company smells money it only gets worse) sundance said they dont make any real money off of ads, because most people use adblock. so what is your basis for saying they are making money off ads? also, this is an online tournament. there are no people going to the event, so they dont make any money that way as well. finally, your idea that they are making millions/billions is just ludicrous. i would be surprised if they are even in the black. | ||
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HistRevist
9 Posts
On February 21 2012 09:54 Cratosch wrote: I think its a shame to have a tournament with some of the best players and only a few 1.000 people watching. " A few thousands, maybe in their dreams? | ||
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Negius
Netherlands290 Posts
Maybe MLG could've offered an annual pass for $ 50 (which is still a lot of money), with the championships included. Or maybe they should make this tournament last longer, keeping it online, with a huge list of players playing on several weekends in pool play and elimination brackets. But of course, we'll have to wait and see the results of this $ 20 price tag, if they get enough money to support the event, it won't change. If they see they lose a lot of viewers, so their advertising income will go down, they'll probably reconsider. I think they've done the wrong thing. If an AOL tournament costs $ 4,99, I believe almost every SC2 fan will buy a ticket for 4,99 which will result in huge income. At least comparing to 10 percent of people who probably pay $ 20 now. | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
United States3161 Posts
On February 21 2012 23:24 Svennedude wrote: they are already makings money trough the ads and all the people coming to the tournament. it actually just means like any other company they want to make "more" money. its not like they woudn't survive with out it. companies just feel like they have to have a few million/billion banked for some reason. (once a company smells money it only gets worse) Where do you have these numbers from exactly? | ||
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ArchoN[VenoM]
United States90 Posts
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On February 22 2012 02:02 ArchoN[VenoM] wrote: They will lose the average fans if they keep this up. YES, there are some hardcore SC2 fans that will always be around but that wont make up for the majority casual gamers lost if they do this with the pricing. I dont like it at all and im really dissapointed. I understand business but at the same time this is a game we all play for free online. Esports cannot break anymore ground if things like this keep happening. the thing is, if the average fans are not going to pay for these events, then it doesnt make sense for MLG to keep having these events. they are in it as a business, and sundance has to prove to investors and mlg's management that it makes sense to keep this going. if they can make more money elsewhere, they will jump ship, and then the sc2 community loses another tournament. the idea itself (PPV) is not bad; the amount is a different matter. they should have started smaller. they, unfortunately, have turned this into an all-in and have not given themselves any leeway if people are willing to pay $10, but not $20. | ||
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spacesharksmaster
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