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common_cider
Profile Joined July 2011
342 Posts
February 18 2012 15:10 GMT
#161
If I knew what I was buying and could say ya this tournament is worth $20 then I'd buy, but I don't know exactly what I'm buying. I tried their demo page and couldn't get the game to go into fullscreen mode.

They have to prove that it's worth my money before I'll blindly give it to them
Never eat at a chinese restraunt located by the pound
qntmCHARM
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada4 Posts
February 18 2012 15:27 GMT
#162
ill never pay to watch sc, just like ill never pay to watch a hockey game on tv
Areon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States273 Posts
February 18 2012 16:39 GMT
#163
If they're going THIS far they shouldn't be making the VODs free, like GomTV. Quite honestly there's no reason to pay at all if you want to save a few bucks and don't mind waiting a week.
raf3776
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1904 Posts
February 18 2012 17:31 GMT
#164
Its a good try as I feel a lot of tournaments will be dying eventually as not enough profit.. but idk if they presented it right or the attitude they have about it. Sundance was basically saying "Pay for it or we might not be here in the future" but it is true maybe start off smaller or announce it as the same time of the tournament. Idk but well see how it goes
WWJD (What Would Jaedong Do)
Zikeman
Profile Joined June 2011
United States10 Posts
February 18 2012 17:51 GMT
#165
$20 isnt that much. Everyone is just use to everything being free. Go get a job, work 2 hours and you have paid for the whole weekend worth of MLG SC2. Stop paying for a month of Swtor, or WoW and support SC2 and esports. People are overreacting to the price. I dont know about everyone else but i will be paying for it to support MLG, and im going to invite a few friends over allow them to buy/bring food and we'll just chill and watch it all weekend. Stop overreacting, go get jobs and support MLG.
jackdaniels
Profile Joined February 2012
29 Posts
February 18 2012 17:53 GMT
#166
I don't think there is a market for it. Right now $20 is a lot, especially for Europe which is going through a big recession.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
February 18 2012 21:02 GMT
#167
On February 19 2012 02:51 Zikeman wrote:
$20 isnt that much. Everyone is just use to everything being free. Go get a job, work 2 hours and you have paid for the whole weekend worth of MLG SC2. Stop paying for a month of Swtor, or WoW and support SC2 and esports. People are overreacting to the price. I dont know about everyone else but i will be paying for it to support MLG, and im going to invite a few friends over allow them to buy/bring food and we'll just chill and watch it all weekend. Stop overreacting, go get jobs and support MLG.


support + enterprise in the same sentence ... oh TL
Zest fanboy.
Night Eyes
Profile Joined January 2011
433 Posts
February 18 2012 22:20 GMT
#168
On February 19 2012 00:27 qntmCHARM wrote:
ill never pay to watch sc, just like ill never pay to watch a hockey game on tv


Unless the hockey games are on public TV then you do pay for them by paying your cable company.
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Cpadolf
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden1199 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-18 23:04:54
February 18 2012 23:03 GMT
#169
Don't really mind at all that they are charging money for it, they are a business and are simply trying to make things go around. But I won't buy since I'll probably only have time to watch a fraction of the games anyway, plus ASUS ROG looks pretty good as well.

On February 19 2012 02:53 jackdaniels wrote:
I don't think there is a market for it. Right now $20 is a lot, especially for Europe which is going through a big recession.


Depends largely on which part of Europe you are talking about. We're relatively fine over here (certainly better than the U.S, as far as I know).
slammered
Profile Joined June 2011
United States56 Posts
February 18 2012 23:29 GMT
#170
do other sports fans have to pay to watch their sport? no, commercials, advertisements, and charisma all get them their funding.
CinnaBuns
Profile Joined August 2011
United States34 Posts
February 18 2012 23:42 GMT
#171
I'm a bit annoyed that they pretty much screwed Silver level members (at least they gave me a refund) and apparently now also Gold level members ($5 discount? gee whiz!).

That said, I can understand MLG wanting to try out some different business models just to see if it's viable. I'm sure they've done some demographics research and understand that most of their viewers are in NA. And, secondly, while it's understandable that $20 means a whole lot more in other parts of the world and to high school / college students, that doesn't really mean a whole lot to tournament organizers and advertisers at the end of the day. It is a business, and they absolutely need to target people with a good amount of disposable income to pay for events and to pay for the crap that advertisers are trying to sell you. The Super Bowl generates a ton of ad revenue because a large part of its target audience (including "casual" fans) happen to be in the age group to have lots of disposable income. I'm pretty sure all the funny beer and car commercials are not targetted at broke teenagers.

Obviously a lot of folks here don't agree with the pricing model, and personally I doubt I would buy a ticket as I already paid for a full year of GSL, but only time will tell if this works out for MLG or not (and I doubt they'd publicly announce their profits/losses). Enthusiasm is great, but money makes the world go around. If there's not more money going into the system, it's unreasonable to think that events will just magically get bigger and better.
CinnaBuns
Profile Joined August 2011
United States34 Posts
February 18 2012 23:50 GMT
#172
On February 19 2012 08:03 Cpadolf wrote:
Don't really mind at all that they are charging money for it, they are a business and are simply trying to make things go around. But I won't buy since I'll probably only have time to watch a fraction of the games anyway, plus ASUS ROG looks pretty good as well.

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On February 19 2012 02:53 jackdaniels wrote:
I don't think there is a market for it. Right now $20 is a lot, especially for Europe which is going through a big recession.


Depends largely on which part of Europe you are talking about. We're relatively fine over here (certainly better than the U.S, as far as I know).


Don't worry about us in the US just yet

We have similar unemployment rates. Sweden has higher GDP per capita. US has higher purchasing power per capita (PPP). All in all I'd say we're pretty similar.
peekn
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1152 Posts
February 19 2012 00:13 GMT
#173
Ouch didn't think that the poll would look that bad... :/
mint_julep
Profile Joined October 2009
United States254 Posts
February 19 2012 01:39 GMT
#174
On February 16 2012 17:38 iEatWoofers wrote:
20 $ isn't that much... cheap bastards.


Yeah,well... everything's relative.

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(Also, your math sucks, but that's a story for the end of this logic based rant.)


Some people have already pointed out, reasonably, that much of the pro SC2 fan base is high school and college students who don't have a lot of cash laying around. A lot of others happen to live in a fucked economy.

A few other people have pointed out, reasonably, that the GSL costs less in terms of $/content, while the production values and level of competition (at the very least least for code S) is generally higher.

(There's also the frustrating-ass-annoyance of already being a gold member and then being told to cough up more cash, event by event, to keep watching while not knowing if or when they might jack up the prices again on a whim.)

Actually, there's a precise total of zero "cheap bastard"-ish things about not wanting to spend more money for an inferior product. EoL. But especially when someone may or may not have the resources at their disposal that another (possibly snide-assed, condescending) individual happens to.

...

That being said, 20 bucks ain't shit to me either - but I wouldn't pay this on principle. I get more kick ass content than I have time to watch on the GSL anyway.

As much as $20 doesn't hurt my personal pockets, $20 every single event when I'm already MLG Gold, AND spending hundreds on (better) yearly GSL/GSTL pass content is money I'd rather spend on a few decent bottles of scotch to sip while I watch the real championship.

TL;DR:

MLG
: Wait until you have a better product than your competition before charge more than them in a less convenient way.
I hope Plexa's sig is right.
Jisall
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2054 Posts
February 19 2012 02:07 GMT
#175
90% drop in viewers it looks like. Seems unviable.
Monk: Because being a badass is more fun then playing a dude wearing a scarf.. ... Ite fuck it, Witch Doctor cuz I like killing stuff in a timely mannor.
laharl23
Profile Joined February 2011
United States582 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-19 02:15:43
February 19 2012 02:15 GMT
#176
Why don't tournaments just run longer ads?

wouldn't having 250,000 viewers and running like 4-5 long ads (like any real television show) be a lot more money than having people pay 20 dollars to watch it?
NhcErco
Profile Joined February 2012
Norway3 Posts
February 19 2012 02:48 GMT
#177
eh, you guys know that u still get all the things u got before for free right? that this MLG Arena thing, isnt the same as the MLG's we've seen before? and that u still get the old Mlg's for free right?
They are ADDING PPV's.. not changing the tourneys they have had before..
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
February 19 2012 02:56 GMT
#178
Just bought a ticket.. probably wouldn't do it every time..but, I want to check this out and maybe the winter championships.

Go MLG!!

XD
~ The Ultimate Weapon
Kahuna.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada196 Posts
February 19 2012 05:21 GMT
#179
What has happened here is quite simple... MLG's pricing analysts have made a serious mistake. They'll learn from it and price their next PPV tournaments accordingly. Simple as that: extremely poor pricing strategy. At $9.99, they would've done fine... At $20.00, not so much. I'm willing to bet that at $9.99 this event would've been a lot more profitable. Oh well... MLG's loss.
"Sorry, I'm allergic to bullshit."
mastergriggy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1312 Posts
February 19 2012 05:26 GMT
#180
I had no problem buying a gsl season ticket. If MLG gave me the same content as GOM did for the same price, I'd buy it immediately. But why on earth would I pay so much for one event when (A) GOM gives you way more for way less (B) Assembly is the same weekend so I'm not gonna miss out, and (C) with all the technical issues MLG has had before, I wouldn't even be sure if I got to see the whole event? Not worth the money imo.
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