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Nosey
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-03 03:18:48
August 03 2011 03:12 GMT
#181
I'm more a fan of characters within pro players than raw skill. I remember Sundance saying a bit (Raleigh 2010) about his passion for hosting the best of the best. I can understand that--and I understand I'm probably in a minority--but I invest more in players I can relate to, etc etc.

Personally, I also don't dig most Korean styles. Yes, if it's Korean SC or another One Tree Hill rerun, the choice is easy. But they're just not entertaining in the same way that nearly every NA/Eur player is for me.

Edit::: But it does add to the experience to have the players I root for facing such adversity. When *fingers cross* some of them get the practice time in to finally legitimatize the foreign scene, it'll make it all the sweeter.
Akash1223
Profile Joined March 2011
United States91 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-03 03:37:26
August 03 2011 03:29 GMT
#182
The TvT was a bit much. It's the best mirror to watch atm imo; but all mirrors are inferior to non-mirrors.

I can understand the people saying that they want to see foreigners win because they know them better///they are their favorite players. It makes sense to lose interest when your favorite player(s) are knocked out. But what I don't understand is the people who don't want to see Korean's in the tournaments at all. Where's the excitement in a 2nd rate event?

If the county I was rooting for in the World Cup got knocked out in the early rounds; I'd be less interested than if they were still alive. However, I'd never wish that in the next tournament the top countries that always do well would be banned from the tournament so everyone else would have a better chance.
Lamphead
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada241 Posts
August 03 2011 04:14 GMT
#183
It seems to imply that it's a bad thing that they're all Korean. I liked that they were all Korean!
We didn't lose the game. We just ran out of time. - Vince Lombardi
theprince013
Profile Joined March 2011
United States12 Posts
August 03 2011 05:17 GMT
#184
Seriously who gives a SHIT about the nation they are from. I want to see the best players and then hopefully the best match ups possible.
PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
August 03 2011 05:23 GMT
#185
Whoops i voted the wrong thing... I thought it said did it ATTRACT your interest so I voted Yes very much
Jieun <3
PHC
Profile Joined March 2011
United States472 Posts
August 03 2011 05:47 GMT
#186
1/3 that voted were affected. Man...
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
August 03 2011 05:49 GMT
#187
At 5am, when I had just watched MvP solve DRG and Huk and Nani were out, I had to tap out.

Sleep is better than 5 Korean Terrans
Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-03 06:50:59
August 03 2011 06:49 GMT
#188
Yes, I was actually. I didn't watch them.

I want to see players I know fight it out in the tournament. Instead their matches don't even matter because 6 absolutely random koreans are getting in and claim the top 6 spots.

I'm not the kind of person that just blindly hangs on to whoever is Nr 1 in the GSL this month, or whoever Artosis thinks is good. And I want to watch the players I personally support, not some random Koreans.

ReturnStroke
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States801 Posts
August 03 2011 07:02 GMT
#189
I just wanted to watch the best players. Maybe the TvTs don't bother me much, because TvT is my favorite mirror at the moment.
ReturnStroke
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States801 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-03 07:08:37
August 03 2011 07:07 GMT
#190
On August 03 2011 15:49 Jinsho wrote:
Yes, I was actually. I didn't watch them.

I want to see players I know fight it out in the tournament. Instead their matches don't even matter because 6 absolutely random koreans are getting in and claim the top 6 spots.

I'm not the kind of person that just blindly hangs on to whoever is Nr 1 in the GSL this month, or whoever Artosis thinks is good. And I want to watch the players I personally support, not some random Koreans.



Well, what are your standards? A GSL victory isn't enough? Just because YOU like them or YOU follow them doesn't give them a place above anyone else. Unlike you, many people follow, love, and support these Koreans as much or more than any foreign players.
I'm sorry you don't personally follow these amazing players, but guess what, getting the BEST NOTABLE AND AVAILABLE Koreans to play is awesome. We get to see the top players in the world come play. If you think MVP, DRG, and BoxeR are random, maybe you should educate yourself.


EDIT: Last line seemed harsh.
MaestroSC
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-03 07:48:43
August 03 2011 07:46 GMT
#191
The only real affect on my interest was the fact that it was literally impossible to get food on day 3. If you left your seat for more than 5 minutes, and a security guard saw it, they would give your seat to a random person who was standing.

I went from 6 am thru 8pm without a single food or drink item because I would have lost my seat, so i was def rooting for MVP to win the last 2 games so i wouldnt have to wait for a 2nd Bo3 for food.

other than that- i go to see the best games possible live. and TvT is the only mirror match worth watching imo.

I dont give a damn what nationality they are. I want to see the best vs the best, period. If they are all Korean, its cause the foreigners arent practising/playing hard enough. It is that simple IN MY OPINION.
Felo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany392 Posts
August 03 2011 07:48 GMT
#192
I don't really care about their nation.

I was following BoxeR because he's one of my favorites (So many childhood memories) but then went to bed after I realized that there were only terrans left ^^

Its still more entertaining to watch players you know (I rooted for HuK) but I can also enjoy genius play, no matter who's controlling it.
EU GML P | Check my Stream (with commentary!) -> www.twitch.tv/xFelo
Poisonblack
Profile Joined May 2011
452 Posts
August 03 2011 08:35 GMT
#193
If anything all these awesome games of the highest quality have dampened my interest in EU/NA players and competitions... they just pale in comparison to the Koreans.

I can't wait to see more top tier Koreans play outside of GSL, their play is so sick.
Gprime
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada198 Posts
August 03 2011 08:53 GMT
#194
Best players for sure. I really like watching tvt, watching marines stim and rush a tank line gets my nerd chills....chilling....
diablo 3 killed my skill.
JustAGame
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany161 Posts
August 03 2011 09:11 GMT
#195
The only reason i kept watching the MLG after i saw that only terrans were remaining was because it were all koreans.

Its not even about koreans (last DRG series was very sloppy and i didnt like it), but most of the foreigners are just not good enough to compete on this level, making their games way less entertaining.
pm me for free coaching
ReKoIL
Profile Joined June 2011
United States7 Posts
August 03 2011 09:26 GMT
#196
For me, I think lack of race diversity was a big let down.

I enjoy watching the Koreans play. They are the best in the world and have now shown it at MLG twice. They deserve to be there.

But the TvT got old. And actually TvZ got old. Here comes blue flame hellions. Zerg loses 40something drones... game over.
nukkuj
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Finland403 Posts
August 03 2011 09:46 GMT
#197
Didn't really particularly care who BoxeR was playing against (korean or non-korean). Didn't watch other matches than his. Fanboy for life!
IAmHandsome
Profile Joined February 2011
Indonesia21 Posts
August 03 2011 09:56 GMT
#198
TvT is Fun!
I Am Handsome
ICA
Profile Joined January 2011
498 Posts
August 03 2011 10:07 GMT
#199
TvT all the time is just boring. Even the epic Boxer vs Rain match wasn't that interesting to me. It was obvious that Rain would eventually win this, it just took a thousand years... And time wise it was stupid for Europeans anyways so I just went to bed at some point (semi final I think)
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
August 03 2011 10:18 GMT
#200
Would rather watch Koreans over foreigners because kor players are gosu as fuck, where as some foreigners are terrible and don't deserve their "fame." I'll prefer foreigners over Koreans when foreigners can actually compete and stop with their lax practice regiments.
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
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