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SwiFt
Profile Joined January 2006
Sweden30 Posts
August 03 2011 19:32 GMT
#221
As an old bw fan I just love to see koreans dominate the foreign scene.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
August 03 2011 20:05 GMT
#222
We want good games with good players, nationality is irrelevant.
Slike
Profile Joined April 2011
Greece127 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-03 20:20:29
August 03 2011 20:11 GMT
#223
Dont understand why people arent "allowed" to post their oppinions without getting flamed here. Every guy that has voted yes on the poll and tries to voice their oppinion gets called a racist or ignorant.

There are no pro-gamers from my country and I dont concider europe as my "country" or however you wanna call that. I dont support europe players more than US or whatever but im way less interested in KR players.

I dont know if its either that they re way too good to put in a competition vs foreigners and I feel like rooting for the underdog or the fact that the language barrier is big and I dont know much about them other than they are great players. Yes they give good games of sc2 , probably the best out there but in a 3 day event especially when its aired at those hours (for me personally important games were 4-8 am) I need something more than good games. Id rather watch foreigners play simply because I can connect to them easily. I can watch their streams , I can hear them talk in shows etc I can love them or I can hate them and this creates interest. Listening to some guy talk through a translator once a tournament is not the same thing and GSL seems way too distant for me. I mean the winner , IMMvP , I dont think I saw him once in the whole tournament giving some emotion or even talking. This is why the only korean I love to watch during major tournaments is MC simply because he at least makes an effort to connect with his fans.

Went until DRG games just to see how hes gonna deal with the new age hellion tactics , then realised it was all going to be 3-4 TvTs in a row at 6 am+ so I closed the stream. Didnt really matter to me who won , maybe if BoxeR could do it I would be happier but other than that didnt care.

Saad
Profile Joined June 2011
United States50 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-03 21:23:41
August 03 2011 21:22 GMT
#224
If they bring in Koreans, there should be a diversity. Not all Terran and 1 Zerg and 1 Toss
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6184 Posts
August 03 2011 21:56 GMT
#225
no but so many TvT did.

I mean, I really like TvT and i think its the best mirror matchup.. but for god shake, give us some P or Z T__T
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K_Dilkington
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden449 Posts
August 03 2011 22:04 GMT
#226
It did effect my interest. I guess it's mostly down the the fact that the Koreans player are anonymous to me; I don't know anything about them beyond their accomplishments in starcraft and most of them show very little personality. The big thing is of course that most of them doesn't speak English which makes it hard for them to communicate with western fans.
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ArcticVanguard
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States450 Posts
August 03 2011 22:09 GMT
#227
No, but so many TvTs did. I HATE TvT more than any other matchup. I wish I'd seen more ZvZs.
"When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up." ~C.S. Lewis
Teriyaki-Boy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States26 Posts
August 03 2011 22:47 GMT
#228
Wow...this poll really brings out people true feelings about MLG and it come to my understanding that alot of people rather see some scrub making it to the grandfinal. Yeah, the korean doesn't speak english that well but, they do love and appreciate their fan by coming to american. Also, i was rooting for some non-korean to make it through but their skill level are not up there with the koreans. So they better train harder and produce good game or get the F out, i wanna see top level pro going at it. Doesn't matter if it american, korean or european etc.
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mholden02
Profile Joined October 2010
387 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-03 23:27:03
August 03 2011 22:57 GMT
#229
YES. Korean vs Korean may very well bring the highest quality play, but I lost the emotional investment I had in a tourny like MLG-Columbus where EVERY match I was emotionally pumped to watch.

When the top 6 were ALL Koreans, sure i enjoyed the matches, but my interest level dropped significantly. When the team you root for in Basketball, or Hockey, or Football gets knocked out, even if you love the sport, you've lost your personal connection.

Had Idra, or Huk, or a WhiteRa, or some nonKorean been there to represent Foreign hope, it would have added another dimension to the tournament. It really missed that.

And there were to many TvT's. I like Terran, but too much of anything and you get tired of it. Whom ever decides which Koreans to invite, please, invite a good mix. Boxer, MVP, MMA - too many of the same race.

We should be honored that the Koreans came all the way over here to play.


Are you ****ing serious? We should be honored that they grace us with their presence? No, they should be honored we allow them free spots in our tournament. Seeing way too much of this idolizing of the Koreans. They're people who play video games better than us currently, largely because they've been doing it seriously far longer than we have. Thats it. Thats all.
Tesla12
Profile Joined December 2010
Serbia71 Posts
August 03 2011 23:08 GMT
#230
stop with all those TvT already il still watch all the tournaments but its boring Thanks for day9 and husky they keep it alive
"Divide et impera"
Gheizen64
Profile Joined June 2010
Italy2077 Posts
August 03 2011 23:32 GMT
#231
I admit i stopped looking the tournament when it was only Korean in.
But that was because:

it was 3 am

it would have been only TvT

Seriously, TvT is the best mirror, but it's so slow, and game after game after game, after a whole day watching starcraft, it can get to you. I would have liked a bigger variety of matchups honestly.
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JoeAWESOME
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden1080 Posts
August 03 2011 23:44 GMT
#232
I dont like TvT that much, especially as you see so many TvTs nowdays
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4rChon
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
150 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-04 00:07:53
August 04 2011 00:07 GMT
#233
It had the perfect plot. The Master teaches the Apprentice all of his tricks after his rise from slumber and returns to conquer the scene. On his road to glory, the Master encounters the Antagonist and falls to his power only to have to do battle with his own Apprentice in preparation to face the Antagonist yet again. But the Apprentice exceeds his Master in skill and vows to take down the Antagonist himself. In an anti-climax the Apprentice fails to take down the Antagonist thus tragically ending the tale.

Maybe I was over-thinking it at the time, it was around 5am.

Only the fact that it was a bunch of TvTs was what bothered me. I would've liked to see some variety, although I did see innovation.
HKGxPython
Profile Joined March 2011
United States78 Posts
August 04 2011 00:40 GMT
#234
I'm hoping Nestea can make it to an MLG, he could definitely win. It's too bad that he always makes it to the GSL Finals lol.
Do, or do not. There is no try.
Svennedude
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium86 Posts
August 04 2011 01:18 GMT
#235
TvT's, I watch so many of them in the gsl already, so sick of it. terran requires the most skill but still...
Railin
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada96 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-04 01:56:15
August 04 2011 01:54 GMT
#236
On August 02 2011 14:00 Misanthrope wrote:
IDC if they're korean or not, I care if they're zerg or not.


^

Totally my thoughts ... may the best players prevail, but I was sick of that much TvT.

And upset that there was no zerg in the finals

On August 04 2011 10:18 Svennedude wrote:
. terran requires the most skill but still...

you meant least, right ... there wouldn't be more terrans in GSL than both other races COMBINED if terran was the hardest one to play ...
~~femFxRailin~~ "Sc2 strategies have an interesting history of being developed in Europe, perfected in Korea, and used on unsuspecting Americans" [Tree.Hugger]
nukeazerg
Profile Joined June 2011
United States168 Posts
August 04 2011 02:07 GMT
#237
I don't care what race or country they are from as long as they speak English. Translators ruin the
Moment for me. it is crazy how much they cater to them by providing a translator and plane tickets.
TigerKarl
Profile Joined November 2010
1757 Posts
August 04 2011 03:02 GMT
#238
It's cool to see top players with big names, but i don't need no Ganzi, Polt, Rain and al those.
Teriyaki-Boy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States26 Posts
August 04 2011 03:06 GMT
#239
We should be honored that the Koreans came all the way over here to play.


Are you ****ing serious? We should be honored that they grace us with their presence? No, they should be honored we allow them free spots in our tournament. Seeing way too much of this idolizing of the Koreans. They're people who play video games better than us currently, largely because they've been doing it seriously far longer than we have. Thats it. Thats all.[/QUOTE]

You must lived under a rock or just a new comer to the starcraft comunity but the reason why people idolized "Boxer" is because he played a major role in making Esport into what it is today. So plz stfu if you dont know what F you talking about. Am sorry your favorite player didn't make it through maybe less QQing and more training.
What is love? baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me no more......
DoubleRobo
Profile Joined April 2011
United States7 Posts
August 04 2011 03:07 GMT
#240
On August 04 2011 11:07 nukeazerg wrote:
I don't care what race or country they are from as long as they speak English. Translators ruin the
Moment for me. it is crazy how much they cater to them by providing a translator and plane tickets.


I don't agree with this at all, no player should ever feel like they have to learn a country's language to compete there. That's a ludicrous requirement. Should players learn every European language too?
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