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Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
April 04 2010 18:35 GMT
#81
Light definitely deserves #2. Good rank.
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
April 04 2010 18:39 GMT
#82
On April 05 2010 03:05 MrMoose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2010 03:01 n.DieJokes wrote:
On April 05 2010 02:44 MrMoose wrote:
On April 05 2010 02:34 SuperArc wrote:
On April 05 2010 02:15 MrMoose wrote:
On April 04 2010 17:45 Wings wrote:
I loved reading your Flash description, completely agree.
Flash is undeniably the greatest player of all time.

(i'm not using the B-word here so don't get all riled up, I know how some of you are.)

I know JD fans would hate this but personally I think Baby deserves to be above JD, considering how Baby beat JD 3 TIMES IN A ROW. I mean, can ANYONE claim to have a feat like that, apart from, maybe, Flash? Also, he is in stellar form in the individual leagues. As much as I don't like seeing a name like "Baby" high in the progaming world, that little adolescent teen has skills... I wonder how he compares to the original child prodigy Flash?

I was hoping Hwasin would be on the CNBC, at the very least. I know it's absolutely nothing new that Hwasin makes the Ro16, but goddamn, it's his 10th consecutive time, he 2-0'd his group. I'd say the only two reliable things right now are the Red Sniper advancing to the Ro16, and Flash winning...


Beating Jaedong 3x in a row:

fantasy did it. (proleague finals/Bacchus OSL)

edit: so did forGG (Arena MSL)

so did Hwasin (proleague '08/Arena MSL) - 4x actually

so did Casy - 4x actually


all terrans? lol


i was just going through his game list 1 matchup at a time

Stork has actually beaten Jaedong in their last 4 games

This isn't actually true, JD 2-1 him in WCG to win 10k; it's just not in TLPD

damn. I was so proud of myself.
was it LWW or WLW because if it's the former, Stork still gets his 3 in a row.

That makes no sense. How does it make any difference if JD won LWW or WLW? Either way, it means that JD won at least one out of their last three games. If it's LWW, then it means JD won 2 out of their last 3 games (which wasn't the case).
TaimalaiX
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada88 Posts
April 04 2010 18:59 GMT
#83
He's asking about the particular series. The last 4 games he was talking about were all losses to Stork so:

LL - LL

turns into this for the last 7 when the 2-1 WCG series is added:

LL-W-L-W-LL

This way there's no 3 consecutive wins vs. Jaedong, if it were the other way (LWW) he would get 3 straight wins
Not a big fan of Nada. There, I said it.
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
April 04 2010 19:24 GMT
#84
On April 04 2010 21:49 Heimatloser wrote:
lol @ leta
so beating flash once in a bo1 puts you on powerrank these days?


Not just beating flash, but AK-ing the strongest WL team.
TacToSs
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia330 Posts
April 04 2010 19:30 GMT
#85
I also hope Jaedong gets back into shape to take on Flash, cause right now whenever you see Flash you just know he's going to win 99% of the time. Kind of takes the fun out of watching him unfortunately. Whenever KT's up, you know they'll win when they send out Flash, not saying KT can't hold their own but once Flash is on the scene, it's all over.
Jaedong <3
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
April 04 2010 19:50 GMT
#86
On April 04 2010 23:28 8BITT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2010 14:15 petered wrote:
I appreciate these power ranks, but they many times don't make any sort of consistent sense. Like, fantasy was 5 last month, and then doesn't have very many games at all this last month, but is still in both leagues, and people above him don't perform well...and he drops out entirely.



this

The only one who he could be replaced with is Leta tbh.
But then again remember fantasy lost to Zero in the OSL and Zero ain't on CBNC (even though he did play a fine game vs Sea undtil he pulled a clam and choked)
In the woods, there lurks..
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
April 04 2010 19:58 GMT
#87
Yeah, I guess the ranking is fine. It was kind of a crazy month.
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nodule
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada931 Posts
April 04 2010 21:33 GMT
#88
On April 05 2010 04:24 Sadistx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2010 21:49 Heimatloser wrote:
lol @ leta
so beating flash once in a bo1 puts you on powerrank these days?


Not just beating flash, but AK-ing the strongest WL team.


Not that beating 3 random KT players is anything special these days.

Flash's team members were pulling their weight in r1, r2, and the first half of WL. But lately, not so much
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
April 04 2010 21:47 GMT
#89
It was a very fair Power Rank, good work Plexa.
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42950 Posts
April 04 2010 22:01 GMT
#90
This seemed a very weird PR but I can't fault it. I wracked my brains to try and think who is actually playing decently these days and still couldn't fill 2-9 with any confidence. The only other player who is consistently impressing me these days is Baby but I can't put him much higher than you did. Light is a bit dubious after his humiliation at the hands of PerfectMan (I know I wrote a defence of Light in the OSL news but even so, PerfectMan is the worst progamer). Guess I'll let it slide. One thing to note though is that Stork's play hasn't been that impressive lately. He's getting by because everyone is playing badly but still, he's lost something and that makes me want him ranked low.
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Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
April 04 2010 22:38 GMT
#91
JD is under Top2 since August 09 (except for your little Dezember Stork lapse )and I don't see how an 11-6 (64%) performance makes a guy who went 7-3 (70%) and was not on Power Rank before pull ahead of him. Light had a big streak so it is ok to put him 2nd but I doubt the decision to put Sea third, especially because he was not on PR before. Otherwise a really good PR.
Beachac
Profile Joined June 2009
United States278 Posts
April 05 2010 00:36 GMT
#92
On April 04 2010 04:16 vaMpYr wrote:
light really dont deserve so high rank . my god ..
sea is better than light for sure and easy .
kal should be higher , same for baby .
jaedong spot is discutable , he played beautiful level against Roro and hyuk .


"Flash is accomplishing what Jaedong could not - he is removing any doubt what so ever that he is the best. "

THIS is very unfair to jaedong .

the accomplishements of jaedong are differents from flash , but not weaker .
he manage to win 3 2 from 0 2 in a OSL final against the top terran at the time and this terran had an invincible strategy against zerg .
he manage to win flash during his top form dont care of the poweroutage thing .
he has the crasiest , the more unreal record in SC history . he had 80% ratio in zvz , THE match up which its the most difficult to do it .
he had more titles than flash , ( more OSLs , more MSLs , WCG , seoul esport festival .. )
he has really good stats on proleague since 2006 . i dont think flash has better stats on proleague overall .

.


Lol this is hilarious fanboism or trolling. Flash is accomplishing what jaedong never did. If you can't see that, you're blind.

He beat flash in the MSL finals and you DON'T care about the power outage? you're right, the power outage had no effect on the game at all.

He has the most unreal record? Flash's record and win percentage is way better and the gap is just widening.

Zvz is the hardest matchup? LOL.
LOL

Titles don't determine the skill of the player. Flash entered the scene after Jaedong but has recently took shape into the monster he is now. Titles accomplishments can't be measured accurately because there are way too many factors to account for.

flash IS the best right now , there is no doubt about that . but saying that he has become better than jaedong could ever be is really really unfair to jaedong


Funny thing, that's exactly what he's become.

(I am a flash fan, but I'm not biased to the point where I defend the player who is clearly not better)



[Azn]Nada
Profile Joined April 2009
United States275 Posts
April 05 2010 01:37 GMT
#93
This was a great power rank, with the slight exception of Sea. But i mean looking at the games he did play, he does seem to be quite solid.

Nice to see Light/Baby get the recognition they deserve; Nuke was commentating on Baby vs Jaedong in OSL and kept repeating "omg, i actually think baby is going to win here!" Priceless

And 4 of top 5 players are terran. :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
oh, and fantasy should be in cbnc.

Anyways, great power rank!
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4728 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-05 01:50:55
April 05 2010 01:46 GMT
#94
On April 05 2010 09:36 Beachac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2010 04:16 vaMpYr wrote:
light really dont deserve so high rank . my god ..
sea is better than light for sure and easy .
kal should be higher , same for baby .
jaedong spot is discutable , he played beautiful level against Roro and hyuk .


"Flash is accomplishing what Jaedong could not - he is removing any doubt what so ever that he is the best. "

THIS is very unfair to jaedong .

the accomplishements of jaedong are differents from flash , but not weaker .
he manage to win 3 2 from 0 2 in a OSL final against the top terran at the time and this terran had an invincible strategy against zerg .
he manage to win flash during his top form dont care of the poweroutage thing .
he has the crasiest , the more unreal record in SC history . he had 80% ratio in zvz , THE match up which its the most difficult to do it .
he had more titles than flash , ( more OSLs , more MSLs , WCG , seoul esport festival .. )
he has really good stats on proleague since 2006 . i dont think flash has better stats on proleague overall .

.


Lol this is hilarious fanboism or trolling. Flash is accomplishing what jaedong never did. If you can't see that, you're blind.

He beat flash in the MSL finals and you DON'T care about the power outage? you're right, the power outage had no effect on the game at all.

He has the most unreal record? Flash's record and win percentage is way better and the gap is just widening.

Zvz is the hardest matchup? LOL.
LOL

Titles don't determine the skill of the player. Flash entered the scene after Jaedong but has recently took shape into the monster he is now. Titles accomplishments can't be measured accurately because there are way too many factors to account for.

Show nested quote +
flash IS the best right now , there is no doubt about that . but saying that he has become better than jaedong could ever be is really really unfair to jaedong


Funny thing, that's exactly what he's become.

(I am a flash fan, but I'm not biased to the point where I defend the player who is clearly not better)





I fail to see how your post is anything but blind fanboyism. You basically have no arguments (but a double capslock-lol) and say that titles don't matter much in determining skill.
Maybe you wanna ask Flash if he would rather have 72%wins and 2 titles or 68%wins and 5 titles. Yeah I know, Flash is younger, he may very well catch up in no time.

Anyway, noone is doubting Flash right now, only idiots could. JD is not in a real slump, but he is clearly not up to the task to challenge Flash right now (in the sence of dominating the scene, not head to head). However, I have a rather big problem with those people who claim that he could hardly challenge Flash, even if he was on top of his game. What Jaedong is capable of doing when he is "on" (especially under pressure) is just scary.


Besides the complete insane level of skill Flash is showing since 6 months, I feel that the pittyful state of protoss right now works in his favor. Protoss is Terrans natural enemy. And of course Flash beats them all right now, but at the same time, no Protoss is any good right now, and the only one who is any good is too inconsistent to reach the later stages of the tournaments where he could challenge Flash in a BoX (I am looking at you Stork).
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
jackofclubs81
Profile Joined January 2010
United States196 Posts
April 05 2010 02:43 GMT
#95
im surprised baby isnt higher, i mean, he just beat jaedong 3 times(one of which was a macro oriented mech game following a two port wraith cheese), but he also beat stork
i mean, i may not be A-rank on iccup but it doesnt take someone that smart to realize he should be higher
onewingedmoogle
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada434 Posts
April 05 2010 04:29 GMT
#96
must be nice to just be able to slot flash in the top spot no questions asked lol
Inkblood
Profile Joined February 2010
United States463 Posts
April 05 2010 05:42 GMT
#97
On April 04 2010 18:37 Plexa wrote:
Baby is literally the only person who deserved his rank, the reason he didn't get higher is that he could just be another hyuk or shine. However, his play indicates otherwise but we'll have to wait and see.

No one else deserved what they got this month - people saying sea doesn't deserve #3 are completely justified in saying that. The issue is no one stepped up and said "oh hey I deserve #3" instead they dropped games and fell out of leagues. Sea and Light got their ranks through everyone else simultaneously sucking. I would be far happier if this rank was just 10 Flashes because thats the only ranking that can be justified.


Hadn’t really thought about that, but now that you mention it, your right, beside Light and Sea there aren’t really any contenders, save for maybe Baby. But like you said he could be another shine or whatever, I personally think the skills that he’s displayed are legitimate, (and I hope I’m right, since I always cheer for Baby.)

Not sure if Flash could take up all ten ranks by himself . . . but it’d be pretty close at any rate. He’s just destroying everything people throw at him right now.
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
April 05 2010 06:03 GMT
#98
Nice PR

Flash is astounding. Unstoppable. Bonjwa? ^^
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Alethios
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
New Zealand2765 Posts
April 05 2010 06:31 GMT
#99
Nice PR. Always a nice read.

Think you're being a tad unfair to Jaedong, as others have said.. but no matter. Time will tell.

Cheers!
When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love.
scorinaldi
Profile Joined October 2007
United States3 Posts
April 05 2010 06:37 GMT
#100
terran = f*cking EASY MODE

look at the Tv(ANYTHING) win rate for the last three months. the game is imbalanced, and it's starting to show.

predictions:

flash is going to win everything this year:

MSL, OSL, and KT will take the starleagues.

( MSL, OSL will have TvT finals )

terrans will dominate for the next cycle.

i fucking hate starcraft.
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