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StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
May 03 2010 08:14 GMT
#621
I'm abit afraid for Flash's TvT. Last times he've played have all been quite close even though he won most.
Even if players like MvP Baby hwasin(odd eye) and lomo did play well, flash should have been able to defeat them easier but somehow he didn't.

He didn't have such a strong aura of dominance that he showed for example the day vs woongjin where he beat free and soulkey. and he keeps telling us that he's not in his best form right now.. ;/
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
May 03 2010 08:17 GMT
#622
On May 03 2010 17:14 StylishVODs wrote:
I'm abit afraid for Flash's TvT. Last times he've played have all been quite close even though he won most.
Even if players like MvP Baby hwasin(odd eye) and lomo did play well, flash should have been able to defeat them easier but somehow he didn't.

He didn't have such a strong aura of dominance that he showed for example the day vs woongjin where he beat free and soulkey. and he keeps telling us that he's not in his best form right now.. ;/

Those players you just mentioned have nothing to do all day but practise TvT. Flash is in two Starleagues and is the ace of his team. He's overworked, tired and yet he still pulls through in the end. If anything, it's a sign of dominance that he is still winning games (though they are close ones).
Mooncat
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany1228 Posts
May 03 2010 08:37 GMT
#623
On May 03 2010 17:17 J1.au wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2010 17:14 StylishVODs wrote:
I'm abit afraid for Flash's TvT. Last times he've played have all been quite close even though he won most.
Even if players like MvP Baby hwasin(odd eye) and lomo did play well, flash should have been able to defeat them easier but somehow he didn't.

He didn't have such a strong aura of dominance that he showed for example the day vs woongjin where he beat free and soulkey. and he keeps telling us that he's not in his best form right now.. ;/

Those players you just mentioned have nothing to do all day but practise TvT. Flash is in two Starleagues and is the ace of his team. He's overworked, tired and yet he still pulls through in the end. If anything, it's a sign of dominance that he is still winning games (though they are close ones).


100% agreed. First of all, those guys are no push overs. They're in decent form and practice TvT like mad. Another reason those matches were so "close" could be that Flash is just tired of playing TvT. He's been playing only TvTs since the ace match against free. MVP is the last obstacle he has to take though, after that it's either P or Z. I also believe Flash will easily 3-0 Pure, just because he's so happy to play against something other than terran for a change.
"[Lee Young Ho] With this victory, you’ve risen to Bonjwa status."
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
May 03 2010 09:17 GMT
#624
Yeah I hope your right, somehow I didn't feel as confident as usual that flash would win watching his last 3-4 games. I kow the reason but the effect is the same.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
May 03 2010 09:43 GMT
#625
While Flash got unlucky that his bo5's were scheduled back to back, he got really lucky in that the caliber of his opponent is pretty low (considering the stakes). When JD had this situation he had to play Calm and Fantasy on consecutive days, focused his energy on beating Fantasy for the more important OSL, and ended up dropping a bo5 in his "invincible" matchup.

Granted, Calm is probably the 2nd best ZvZ player out there, but still it was a stunning result. Now Flash is in a similar situation, playing his previously but no longer invincible mirror matchup in MSL the day before the more important (and later round) match in the "hard" matchup (TvP, just like JD had ZvT). I really think if the Terran was Fantasy or Skyhigh or something, Flash would probably lose the first while winning against Pure. As it is, I'm tentatively predicting that he wins both bo5's - even with MVP playing well lately this is as "easy" as back-to-back bo5's are ever going to get. Let's see what Flash can do.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
May 03 2010 11:30 GMT
#626
PR could come out any minute now. :D
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
May 03 2010 11:35 GMT
#627
On May 03 2010 20:30 SuperArc wrote:
PR could come out any minute now. :D

Assuming Plexa hasn't double-crossed us and fled to his mountain hideout.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
May 03 2010 11:36 GMT
#628
On May 03 2010 02:59 Plexa wrote:
Ranking will be 100% out tomorrow (i.e. between 12 and 18 hours from now), as should the primary reason why it got delayed this weekend lol

You better hurry up now, or you'll be a dirty liar.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
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