Today two Teamliquid staff members will be visiting Blizzard HQ in Anaheim, California for a tour of the facility and some sit down time with the most recent build of Starcraft 2. Joining them will be a range of news sites, news papers and other media, all of whom will feel the Teamliquid Hammer smack down upon them.
The event starts 10am Pacific today and will run through till the late afternoon. Last Romantic and Semioldguy will be updating this news post with any important tidbits via edits or twitter (we are so web 2.0 ).
The day should consist of
- Tour of Blizzard - Play time with the newest multiplayer build - Sit down with Chris Siggity and Dustin Browder
Other Updates Semioldguy: Still waiting to go in, don't know how frequent we will be able to make large updates, but will make updates as we can. I also bring up the Muta stacking to Dustin Browder preobably every time I talk to him. He wants to include in in the game but the programming has troubles with it. I'll check to see how it's coming though.
Kennigit: From what i can gather from other sites they are playing sc2 right now.
Last Romantic They're shutting us up till next min Oo
How much of the game are they willing to redesign based on beta feedback (i.e. universal protoss mana pool, etc.) Things like MAJOR mechanics changes as opposed to a handful of units or stats? To clarify: what, if anything, is unlikely to change at this point?
Still waiting to go in, don't know how frequent we will be able to make large updates, but will make updates as we can. I also bring up the Muta stacking to Dustin Browder preobably every time I talk to him. He wants to include in in the game but the programming has troubles with it. I'll check to see how it's coming though.
Ask "Will we be able to change the amount of minerals/gas per trip by a miner in the map editor, changing from the original 5 min (or w/e it is now) to something like 3 or 8 minerals per trip to change gameplay speed? Or is that hardcoded into the programming?"
On June 23 2009 02:11 Nylan wrote: How much of the game are they willing to redesign based on beta feedback (i.e. universal protoss mana pool, etc.) Things like MAJOR mechanics changes as opposed to a handful of units or stats? To clarify: what, if anything, is unlikely to change at this point?
Talk about scourges, and if theres any chance they may be back in the game (if the phase prism can deploy its psi radius while floating in the air, it may be imbalanced if it hovers a place where GtA can't get it.. along with Nighthawks, maybe scourges would be great to bring back, altho obviously I havent played the game so I am just theorycrafting.)
are beta keys being given away to any progamers in korea? If not, is it because the coaching staff wants their players to only be playing BW and not get distracted?
The latest battle report has a guy they introduce as the "E-sports team member" (Robert Simpson I think). What does that team do? Has blizz said anything yet about what their plans are to make the esports industry better than it currently is?
On June 23 2009 02:16 RaGe wrote: wow, need a closeup of that battle.net screen
agreed
On June 23 2009 02:16 heyoka wrote: The latest battle report has a guy they introduce as the "E-sports team member" (Robert Simpson I think). What does that team do? Has blizz said anything yet about what their plans are to make the esports industry better than it currently is?
they said they are building SC2 from ground up as an "e-sport" in mind. Combine that with them giving GOM some funding and it's easy to make your own conclusions.
Ask "Will we be able to change the amount of minerals/gas per trip by a miner in the map editor, changing from the original 5 min (or w/e it is now) to something like 3 or 8 minerals per trip to change gameplay speed? Or is that hardcoded into the programming?"
In the mapmaker Q&A they said that the maps will be all around more flexible than in warcraft III, and in warcraft III you could change harvesting speed and amounts harvested, so it would be reasonable to assume that the answer is a resounding yes.
On June 23 2009 02:19 Alizee- wrote: any plans to fix the phoenix animation? right now it looks retarded how the lasers just slide along the ship(art question)
are they going to do any streaming/broadcasting/vod recording) for bnet2.0?
On June 23 2009 02:07 Last Romantic wrote: Ask us questions; we'll forward to appropriate Blizzard staff~
In Diablo 3 will the main currency still be items/runes or is gold going to be more important?
this is a really stupid question for one "currency" in d2 was/is developed by user preferences and not by blizzard, and much more importantly d3 is way, way too early in its development to even think about this
On June 23 2009 02:07 Last Romantic wrote: Ask us questions; we'll forward to appropriate Blizzard staff~
In Diablo 3 will the main currency still be items/runes or is gold going to be more important?
this is a really stupid question for one "currency" in d2 was/is developed by user preferences and not by blizzard, and much more importantly d3 is way, way too early in its development to even think about this
What I meant by this is will gold have more of an impact on the game IE world of warcraft where there are way more money sinks than potions repairs and gambling.
Anything they can add about storyline now, that wasnt said earlier?
And PLEASE, notice wich specific units models changes when upgrades are done (like ling wings), especially for toss and terran. Ask to Browder how this can affect the mindgames, like: before we could not tell if a zergling has speed until he moves, but now we can see as soon as the wings appear.
In BW a zerg player generally makes far less workers than a protoss or terran player. is that the same or do Zerg players need more drones this time around?
Is there anyway for old mission briefings to come back? (if someone doesn't want this new walk-aroud-ship thing) Was BR #3 played on fastest or on normal game speed? What can you say about controlling units in general? What about graphics(visibility, smoothness)?
If you can rewind, ask them if they plan to keep the feature, and ask them about replay size (if possible ask also if it will be possible to watch replays without having the map).
On June 23 2009 03:08 Latham wrote: If you can rewind, ask them if they plan to keep the feature
"Lol no, we're just screwing with you."
Really?
It may yet prove it's making the replay too big for "blizzard standard". It's common blizzard policy to make sure replays are as compressed size wise as possible, yet packed with useful things. Shit may yet hit the fan and the feature (rewind) might be discarded due to size issues. Spew your uneducated smirky remarks elsewhere please.
hey semioldguy. Apart from stacking air units you should really talk to them about air units being able to move while firing, which is just as essential a part in muta micro.
Air units in SC2 seem to decelerate before firing, which could be a big problem...
On June 23 2009 03:08 Latham wrote: If you can rewind, ask them if they plan to keep the feature
"Lol no, we're just screwing with you."
Really?
It may yet prove it's making the replay too big for "blizzard standard". It's common blizzard policy to make sure replays are as compressed size wise as possible, yet packed with useful things. Shit may yet hit the fan and the feature (rewind) might be discarded due to size issues. Spew your uneducated smirky remarks elsewhere please.
Obviously they haven't encountered these problems as of yet, so your question is still rather silly.
what id suggest for replays if the replay files are too large with rewind, is just have "restart" points, like maybe 4 sections, very first of game, 1/4 thru game, half way thru game, then 3/4 of the game.. That would probably save file size and still be very functional.
Workers carry now 5 minerals instead of 8 minerals per trip because of the improved ai and automining, but 1)do the new macro mechanics not boost the economy over the niveau of sc1?
In the last battlereport the Protoss made good use of the macromechanics and had not much problems to produce units while expanding.
2) Does the lurker replace the baneling when it comes to t3, or do they serve different roles?
3) Will the sc2 ladder work the same way wc3´s ladder did?
4) Assuming macro mechanics were introduced because of automining,can we expect something to compensate mbs and smart casting?
On June 23 2009 03:16 LaLuSh wrote: hey semioldguy. Apart from stacking air units you should really talk to them about air units being able to move while firing, which is just as essential a part in muta micro.
Air units in SC2 seem to decelerate before firing, which could be a big problem...
This is one of the things that I'm most worried about, especially since (PURE SPECULATION FROM WATCHING THE BATTLE REPORTS AND OTHER PIECES OF MEDIA) this game seems to be based more on micro than macro.
Then again, David Kim just destroys everyone before the game gets too far so... maybe not, haha.
On June 23 2009 03:16 LaLuSh wrote: hey semioldguy. Apart from stacking air units you should really talk to them about air units being able to move while firing, which is just as essential a part in muta micro.
Air units in SC2 seem to decelerate before firing, which could be a big problem...
This is one of the things that I'm most worried about, especially since (PURE SPECULATION FROM WATCHING THE BATTLE REPORTS AND OTHER PIECES OF MEDIA) this game seems to be based more on micro than macro.
Then again, David Kim just destroys everyone before the game gets too far so... maybe not, haha.
Macro comes from certainty that you can do it safely, and Starcraft did not become much of a macro game till after like 6 years, so do expect Macro some time, but don't expect it soon.
On June 23 2009 03:16 LaLuSh wrote: hey semioldguy. Apart from stacking air units you should really talk to them about air units being able to move while firing, which is just as essential a part in muta micro.
Air units in SC2 seem to decelerate before firing, which could be a big problem...
This is one of the things that I'm most worried about, especially since (PURE SPECULATION FROM WATCHING THE BATTLE REPORTS AND OTHER PIECES OF MEDIA) this game seems to be based more on micro than macro.
Then again, David Kim just destroys everyone before the game gets too far so... maybe not, haha.
Each BR was won by David Kim because he had a huge economic advantage later on. He lost most of the battles until the final minutes. We still haven't seen a real even econ mid/late game.
On June 23 2009 03:18 Skyze wrote: what id suggest for replays if the replay files are too large with rewind, is just have "restart" points, like maybe 4 sections, very first of game, 1/4 thru game, half way thru game, then 3/4 of the game.. That would probably save file size and still be very functional.
Seems like you could just have the software do this while the replay is playing, then you wouldn't need to save them in the file itself, but in temporary memory, and you wouldn't have to limit yourself to 4 sections, you could hold a bunch of temporary states. In fact, I wouldn't be too surprised if this was similar to what they in fact implemented.
On June 23 2009 03:16 LaLuSh wrote: hey semioldguy. Apart from stacking air units you should really talk to them about air units being able to move while firing, which is just as essential a part in muta micro.
Air units in SC2 seem to decelerate before firing, which could be a big problem...
This is one of the things that I'm most worried about, especially since (PURE SPECULATION FROM WATCHING THE BATTLE REPORTS AND OTHER PIECES OF MEDIA) this game seems to be based more on micro than macro.
Then again, David Kim just destroys everyone before the game gets too far so... maybe not, haha.
Macro comes from certainty that you can do it safely, and Starcraft did not become much of a macro game till after like 6 years, so do expect Macro some time, but don't expect it soon.
good point man. remember 90% of vZ games on Bnet before 2000 featured a 5 pool- not because it was necessarily a great strat but because it was easy and intuitive. until each unit, unit combos, tech patterns, timings etc are figured out SC2 will be a micro slugfest as all other RTS metagame's begin. Now if two years from now its still ~40 pop armies running around... I dont see SC2 being very memorable.
Do you guys think Blizzard is retarded? They dont add in features (like REWIND WOOHOO) and then go even another step and show it off at a conference only to second guess themselves. They added it in because obviously it works and the file sizes are reasonable, we can have 1mb replays with the ability to rewind, this is the day in age with 1 terabyte harddrives (if need be) and fast internet. So yeah and even still 1mb? so? even 500kb is nothing.
Anyhow, rewind is amazing and I'm gonna be giddy for the next week.
On June 23 2009 03:38 Alizee- wrote: Do you guys think Blizzard is retarded? They dont add in features (like REWIND WOOHOO) and then go even another step and show it off at a conference only to second guess themselves. They added it in because obviously it works and the file sizes are reasonable, we can have 1mb replays with the ability to rewind, this is the day in age with 1 terabyte harddrives (if need be) and fast internet. So yeah and even still 1mb? so? even 500kb is nothing.
Anyhow, rewind is amazing and I'm gonna be giddy for the next week.
Yeah, exactly. Metagame is gonna evolve pretty fast methinks.
Can you ask about why they've emphazised on so many spellcasters rather than keeping them to a select few like in SC, now going more towards the Wc3-style.
Are the games played at fastest, if not, why? And how does the overall speed and fragility of units look like?
On June 23 2009 04:21 Senx wrote: Can you ask about why they've emphazised on so many spellcasters rather than keeping them to a select few like in SC, now going more towards the Wc3-style.
No he can't, because it's not even true - the difference in spell/ability count between SC and SC2 is like.. 1 or 2 units -_-
from Gearvosh "Lunch is served, it's several dozen Starcraft 2 themed cakes, all of which are at least two weeks old. Mine has mold on it, where the hell did they get these things"
On June 23 2009 04:37 breathKILL wrote: Why would they call a press conference, and tell everyone to stfu about it for a week, why not call the conference next monday then?
It doesnt make sence....
We weren't allowed to announce that we were going till the even started so speculate away!
On June 23 2009 04:37 breathKILL wrote: Why would they call a press conference, and tell everyone to stfu about it for a week, why not call the conference next monday then?
It doesnt make sence....
It could be possible that the press is now in the beta, but they don't want to disclose this until it's ready for the public (opt-ins).
On June 23 2009 04:37 breathKILL wrote: Why would they call a press conference, and tell everyone to stfu about it for a week, why not call the conference next monday then?
It doesnt make sence....
It could be possible that the press is now in the beta, but they don't want to disclose this until it's ready for the public (opt-ins).
Why would they delay it a week? Did TeamLiquid expose a terribly imbalanced strategy that would just dominate the first week of the beta anyways, setting them back as they fix it?
On June 23 2009 04:50 Lovin wrote: Monday?!!!!?!?!?! I just died a little inside What in the blazen halls of hell am I going to do till monday.. Oh I know: play Soduko.
On June 23 2009 04:58 David Mudkips wrote: Yeah I don't know shit in terms of law, but I'm pretty sure you can sue someone if you have proof they broke a NDA.
im almost positive blizzard could sue. but im sure they will the guys off with lots of free stuff to keep quiet.
oh god if it's true beta is coming out this monday I will be so happy. But people in europe won't be able to play it when it comes out anyway right? have to wait a month or something?
On June 23 2009 05:04 Ideas wrote: i never really understood why game companies always put NDAs on shit for a while. I just dont see anything that benefits them from doing it.
Not having someone's leak make your own planned announcement redundant seems like the obvious goal.
Well the good thing is: we'll be able to enjoy a fully prepared clean detailed mega news post next Monday, as opposed to that incomprehensible Twitter gibberish
On June 23 2009 05:23 Scorch wrote: Well the good thing is: we'll be able to enjoy a fully prepared clean detailed mega news post next Monday, as opposed to that incomprehensible Twitter gibberish
yea but we could've got the beta today i don't know about you but i'd much rather be playing the beta than reading an article
I like articles. And I don't have a beta key. And I'm not even interested in playing it, I'd rather wait for the finished product. Sure, the delay is annoying, but a beta that crashes all the time or has grave imbalances would suck too.
On June 23 2009 05:29 bsol wrote:yea but we could've got the beta today
It's also entirely possible that they were simply going to announce the date for beta (such as July 17?), and have the impatient masses wait regardless. Or, something completely unrelated.
It's only really disappointing if you let yourself succumb to the 'BETA 2DAY' hysteria.
On June 23 2009 05:45 zazen wrote: NDA? No announcements? So what was today's conference all about? Letting press people play the game for a while and that's it?
ohh if its still going on/questions being taken, Ask if TL can have more keys to award to others who deserve it in the Cake+guide contests.. maybe 1 key each instead of 2 each. More 2nd wave keys even would be awesome.
On June 23 2009 06:15 Shade692003 wrote: Fuck this shit guys! Let's pull an Iran
Revolt against the NDA :p
We should do like the fans of the TV series Jericho when it got cancelled, send letters with the word NUTS but instead something more scish. If I recall it was like 10k letters of the word NUTS to NBC or something ( It got a second season because of it rofl )
On June 23 2009 06:15 Shade692003 wrote: Fuck this shit guys! Let's pull an Iran
Revolt against the NDA :p
We should do like the fans of the TV series Jericho when it got cancelled, send letters with the word NUTS but instead something more scish. If I recall it was like 10k letters of the word NUTS to NBC or something ( It got a second season because of it rofl )
Actually it was 10,000 pounds of actual nuts, shipped to CBS HQ.
On June 23 2009 06:15 Shade692003 wrote: Fuck this shit guys! Let's pull an Iran
Revolt against the NDA :p
We should do like the fans of the TV series Jericho when it got cancelled, send letters with the word NUTS but instead something more scish. If I recall it was like 10k letters of the word NUTS to NBC or something ( It got a second season because of it rofl )
Actually it was 10,000 pounds of actual nuts, shipped to CBS HQ.
I heard it was 10,000 nuts payed with british pounds.
On June 23 2009 06:15 Shade692003 wrote: Fuck this shit guys! Let's pull an Iran
Revolt against the NDA :p
We should do like the fans of the TV series Jericho when it got cancelled, send letters with the word NUTS but instead something more scish. If I recall it was like 10k letters of the word NUTS to NBC or something ( It got a second season because of it rofl )
I can definitely see that working. Go spend this week gathering signatures and sending the petition to Blizzard, they'll probably end up buckling and announcing the important news having received it.
I'm sure we'll get more answers soon. But I'm also wondering that, too. Did Blizzard say they were going to announce something big, but weren't ready so you gotta wait a week ... or did they say you guys can't report on what you saw in the game here today. The second one doesn't make much sense, since the public has played it on several occasions; there shouldn't be much new to see. Maybe they replaced the Zerg with Mountain Dew cans or something and are fearing upheaval!
I know you're NDAed but assuming you can still ask questions and tell answers later: what is the zerg queen like in the current build? Particularly, how much are they to buy and, how does the create larva ability work? (#created? #energy or cooldown?)
I'm interested in finding out if a second hatchery could reasonably be replaced with an early queen.
It's like when you really have to piss. The closer you get to the toilet, the more urgent and urgent the need gets. Yeah, it's only another week. Then we'll all be happy.
BUT GOD DAMN I AM ABOUT TO RELIEVE A FLOOD OF YELLOW SUNSHINE.
ok, so they can't say what they learnt there but (i don't know how this NDA was written) maybe they can say what the didn't learnt there, so if there was nothing about beta or blizzard new projects they could say so.
Instead of you guys rejoicing because of the beta coming so soon, you're pissed cause it's not NOW. Well MONDAY is a lot better than a month from now, in my oppinion. Or than ESPORTS math.
Truth be told they let us know about rewind and were kicked out of blizz headquarters everything you hear from now on is them talking at the local bar drowning in mysery how they got fired from the beta before actually having the beta. But that truth would hurt. DAM NDA on rewind (should of read the fine print)
On June 23 2009 07:38 kazmazel wrote: ok, so they can't say what they learnt there but (i don't know how this NDA was written) maybe they can say what the didn't learnt there, so if there was nothing about beta or blizzard new projects they could say so.
I'm not sure if that would go over well, but I'd love it if they would tell us what they could talk about. Of course, it's probably nothing.
BOOOO, I woke up, made breakfast and turned on my laptop, found this thread and got really happy only to find NDA.... SERIOUSLY BOOO. On the other hand I'm glad to hear there is now a rewind feature on replays, thats going to be so godly. Someone also mentioned spine crawlers had a make over, thank goodness because I always thought the new model sucked and looked weak. Expecting something juicy on monday!
It's a disappointment that we got smacked by an NDA right in the middle of it, but at the very least we know that there will be much more information coming next week.
It would just be so awesome if they announced something ridiculously insignificant, like a minor makeover of the probes :D (Or what was in fact for lunch that day)
And THERE'S the teamliquid rep hiding his gun in the corner, raging about the NDA, i don't think security is going to see this... if he can get that off before it's scouted this will be VERY BAD for the commentator.
And THERE HE GOES, this is a FANTASTIC move by the attempted murderer, I'm trying to hide behind the podium, just moving back and forth so he can't get a clear shot as he HARASSES me with the lazer sight, is he going to squeeze off a shot, YES!!!! And my left lung COLLAPSES, that is a HUGE problem for our release schedule!
And THERE'S the teamliquid rep hiding his gun in the corner, raging about the NDA, i don't think security is going to see this... if he can get that off before it's scouted this will be VERY BAD for the commentator.
And THERE HE GOES, this is a FANTASTIC move by the attempted murderer, I'm trying to hide behind the podium, just moving back and forth so he can't get a clear shot as he HARASSES me with the lazer sight, is he going to squeeze off a shot, YES!!!! And my left lung COLLAPSES, that is a HUGE problem for our release schedule!
That sounds like it caused terrible, terrible damage
And THERE'S the teamliquid rep hiding his gun in the corner, raging about the NDA, i don't think security is going to see this... if he can get that off before it's scouted this will be VERY BAD for the commentator.
And THERE HE GOES, this is a FANTASTIC move by the attempted murderer, I'm trying to hide behind the podium, just moving back and forth so he can't get a clear shot as he HARASSES me with the lazer sight, is he going to squeeze off a shot, YES!!!! And my left lung COLLAPSES, that is a HUGE problem for our release schedule!
On June 23 2009 08:39 KaRnaGe[cF] wrote: Will battle.net 2 help with the latency isues and not being able to create games?
After the rewind i would not doubt anything
I think it will fix the lat issues. The original bnet was made for dial up modems that had one IP address or something like taht. It's complicated, but in modern games things like this shouldn't be a problem
And THERE'S the teamliquid rep hiding his gun in the corner, raging about the NDA, i don't think security is going to see this... if he can get that off before it's scouted this will be VERY BAD for the commentator.
And THERE HE GOES, this is a FANTASTIC move by the attempted murderer, I'm trying to hide behind the podium, just moving back and forth so he can't get a clear shot as he HARASSES me with the lazer sight, is he going to squeeze off a shot, YES!!!! And my left lung COLLAPSES, that is a HUGE problem for our release schedule!
On June 23 2009 10:39 HuskyTheHusky wrote: Hopefully battle.net 2 will allow for more than one person in the same house on battle.net at the same time.
Do you mean with the same CD key?
More than one person in the same house can go on the original Bnet at the same time.
And THERE'S the teamliquid rep hiding his gun in the corner, raging about the NDA, i don't think security is going to see this... if he can get that off before it's scouted this will be VERY BAD for the commentator.
And THERE HE GOES, this is a FANTASTIC move by the attempted murderer, I'm trying to hide behind the podium, just moving back and forth so he can't get a clear shot as he HARASSES me with the lazer sight, is he going to squeeze off a shot, YES!!!! And my left lung COLLAPSES, that is a HUGE problem for our release schedule!
On June 23 2009 10:39 HuskyTheHusky wrote: Hopefully battle.net 2 will allow for more than one person in the same house on battle.net at the same time.
Do you mean with the same CD key?
More than one person in the same house can go on the original Bnet at the same time.
On June 23 2009 10:39 HuskyTheHusky wrote: Hopefully battle.net 2 will allow for more than one person in the same house on battle.net at the same time.
Do you mean with the same CD key?
More than one person in the same house can go on the original Bnet at the same time.
yeah, but often times there are big lag issues
I have had around 8 people on b.net without lag issues.
And THERE'S the teamliquid rep hiding his gun in the corner, raging about the NDA, i don't think security is going to see this... if he can get that off before it's scouted this will be VERY BAD for the commentator.
And THERE HE GOES, this is a FANTASTIC move by the attempted murderer, I'm trying to hide behind the podium, just moving back and forth so he can't get a clear shot as he HARASSES me with the lazer sight, is he going to squeeze off a shot, YES!!!! And my left lung COLLAPSES, that is a HUGE problem for our release schedule!
LOL oh its funny to laugh about killing people who provide for our only happiness...
On June 23 2009 10:39 HuskyTheHusky wrote: Hopefully battle.net 2 will allow for more than one person in the same house on battle.net at the same time.
Do you mean with the same CD key?
More than one person in the same house can go on the original Bnet at the same time.
yeah, but often times there are big lag issues
I have had around 8 people on b.net without lag issues.
I think he's talking about IP4 and NAT issues if your all playing through the same router. Not sure if SC2 is ipv6 or not... But i do have a question; with the nullifier, how effectivly can you contain an army in the open then AoE them...? because armies already seem to fall into tight formation naturally, and it would be super gay if toss could just contain with 6 or so force fields (even in the open) then AoE the army to hell...
On June 23 2009 10:39 HuskyTheHusky wrote: Hopefully battle.net 2 will allow for more than one person in the same house on battle.net at the same time.
Do you mean with the same CD key?
More than one person in the same house can go on the original Bnet at the same time.
yeah, but often times there are big lag issues
I have had around 8 people on b.net without lag issues.
I think he's talking about IP4 and NAT issues if your all playing through the same router. Not sure if SC2 is ipv6 or not... But i do have a question; with the nullifier, how effectivly can you contain an army in the open then AoE them...? because armies already seem to fall into tight formation naturally, and it would be super gay if toss could just contain with 6 or so force fields (even in the open) then AoE the army to hell...
as gay as Maelstrom + psi-storm, really.
If you let the dude get so much casters and you can't kill him off, you deserve to lose anyway.
Changing subject, anyone else still click every 20 minute into this thread in hope of new info? I do ;_;
On June 23 2009 10:39 HuskyTheHusky wrote: Hopefully battle.net 2 will allow for more than one person in the same house on battle.net at the same time.
Do you mean with the same CD key?
More than one person in the same house can go on the original Bnet at the same time.
yeah, but often times there are big lag issues
I have had around 8 people on b.net without lag issues.
I think he's talking about IP4 and NAT issues if your all playing through the same router. Not sure if SC2 is ipv6 or not... But i do have a question; with the nullifier, how effectivly can you contain an army in the open then AoE them...? because armies already seem to fall into tight formation naturally, and it would be super gay if toss could just contain with 6 or so force fields (even in the open) then AoE the army to hell...
as gay as Maelstrom + psi-storm, really.
If you let the dude get so much casters and you can't kill him off, you deserve to lose anyway.
Changing subject, anyone else still click every 20 minute into this thread in hope of new info? I do ;_;
[13:40 EDT] Just saw pvp game is fast and looks good. Multiple dt models not a problem. Tvz now w supply depot harass. Cancel recoups 100% now
Wat? lol supply depot harass?
From what I gather when the terran cancels his buildings he gets 100% of his resources back, so in a TvZ the terran can just plop a supply depot wherever he wants, for example - at what the blizzard team refers to as the "natural expansion" or at the top/bottom of their ramp.
I won 2 and lost 2. My teammate was horrible, stupid nooby friend!
I lost first to SC2GG, who later went and beat TL. Then I had to play TL.
My teammate got destroyed, but I was able to kill one of the TLers, but he had an expansion. I later got overwhelmed by the other player because his army was so vast.
So what did you do today?
Oh also, Karune beat one of the TLers 1v1. That was a great game, would be an AMAZING battle report.
On June 23 2009 12:22 SoleSteeler wrote: Glad to see mutalisks are (apparently) good again. And interesting, I guess, that we're back down to 1 geyser again.
i dont remember where i saw it (and im lazy to search now), but the dual gas mechanic is out some time ago.
On June 23 2009 10:39 HuskyTheHusky wrote: Hopefully battle.net 2 will allow for more than one person in the same house on battle.net at the same time.
Do you mean with the same CD key?
More than one person in the same house can go on the original Bnet at the same time.
yeah, but often times there are big lag issues
I have had around 8 people on b.net without lag issues.
I think he's talking about IP4 and NAT issues if your all playing through the same router. Not sure if SC2 is ipv6 or not... But i do have a question; with the nullifier, how effectivly can you contain an army in the open then AoE them...? because armies already seem to fall into tight formation naturally, and it would be super gay if toss could just contain with 6 or so force fields (even in the open) then AoE the army to hell...
as gay as Maelstrom + psi-storm, really.
If you let the dude get so much casters and you can't kill him off, you deserve to lose anyway.
Changing subject, anyone else still click every 20 minute into this thread in hope of new info? I do ;_;
Kind of a disadvantage to zerg though due to having to use a drone to get an extractor. Would have been interesting how it would work though guess they got too many complaints.
What? TL got owned by Blizzard employees? Sounds like the 1v1 would make a good BR Wish you could tell us more, but I guess we will have to wait till Monday.
On June 23 2009 12:07 GogoKodo wrote: Some 2nd hand twitter information (obviously rock solid source)
"starfeeder Talking to friends that were at the Blizzard even(news press cancelled) Dual Gas is out! Yes normal Vespene gas extraction is back"
Doesn't really matter I say. It's all what the map maker decides to do anyways.
No, because they must've adjusted the mining rate accordingly. Two geysers used to be equal to roughy 1.5 of BW's gas mining rate. Now it's propably back to equal to BW.
On June 23 2009 14:58 onmach wrote: No dual gas, eh? That's too bad, as two gas geysers requires twice the macro to set up, semi offsetting auto mining.
I hope you're not serious. It hardly requires any macro.
One of the attendee's(sp?) said that the real announcement was postponed for another press conferense. The only things that they cannot reveal is mostly about the current beta build.
Nothing major, which is unfortunate. But since the NDA is up untill monday. Is there a possibility that the next conferense might be before that?
There was no press conference today, it was rescheduled. So we basically played sc2 all day and hung out with the devs and karune.
Also any information I found out, I am not allowed to say. Hence why I had to delete my twitter posts.
No there was no press event, so we know nothing. The only info we have is certain things they showed us, and changes to the current build. Which we cannot mention the details until monday.
Doesn't seem like they learned anything special besides changes in the current build.
"There is a rumour that over 200 members of press have been invited there. They can’t all fit there at the same time so that sounds a good reason for the NDA. Nobody can publish any information before the last visitor have been there."
It doesn't make sense that it's the latest build that's NDA. Why do they care so much if we see unit changes now? Anyway, I bet it's something about Battle.net 2.0 or the campaign.
On June 24 2009 01:09 Kishime wrote: Without getting too specific, does the game seem somewhat balanced? Is there anything that just seems way too powerful or weak?
Just dont even ask questions until next week please...makes this easier for all of us.
Could we at least get a statement from the people in place of whether or not monday will be worth waiting for? As in, is what you're not currently allowed to disclose worth not being allowed to disclose?
On June 24 2009 01:18 Osmoses wrote: Could we at least get a statement from the people in place of whether or not monday will be worth waiting for? As in, is what you're not currently allowed to disclose worth not being allowed to disclose?
On June 24 2009 01:18 Osmoses wrote: Could we at least get a statement from the people in place of whether or not monday will be worth waiting for? As in, is what you're not currently allowed to disclose worth not being allowed to disclose?
On June 24 2009 01:18 Osmoses wrote: Could we at least get a statement from the people in place of whether or not monday will be worth waiting for? As in, is what you're not currently allowed to disclose worth not being allowed to disclose?
On June 24 2009 01:18 Osmoses wrote: Could we at least get a statement from the people in place of whether or not monday will be worth waiting for? As in, is what you're not currently allowed to disclose worth not being allowed to disclose?
On June 24 2009 08:35 prOxi.swAMi wrote: Looking forward to hearing about the medivac. I'm struggling to imagine stim being used til mid game without ye olde medic
I think this is all old info so it doesn't break NDA:
1) Marine shields, researched from barracks tech lab addon, give +15 hp; this makes stim more palatable since even post stim sans medic you have more HP than SC1 marines.
2) Marauders still have 125 HP + slowing attack so they can wall and tank for your marines pretty well.
So does that mean marines/medivac and marauders will be viable for PvT? I mean it sounds like they have alot of HP and that they will be able to dodge storms like hydras, except medivacs will heal them afterwards, Plus stim will make them move so much faster.
How many press staff were in attendance? From which sites/publications did they come from? Main sites I'm curious about are IGN, Gametrailers, 1up, Gamespot etc.
And now for a question you probably can't answer...did the news you heard make you more excited for SC2s release? A simple 'yes/no' would do, perhaps with a 'hell yes!' if it was really really cool news.
On June 24 2009 10:06 Pape wrote: I do not at all believe we will see beta come next Monday! And I am sure we will all be disappointed come Mondays "big" announcement.
Your probably going to be right about the beta, but still looking forward to hear what everyone who went found out at the meeting.
well, i'm not sure this will break nda, but i'm going to ask anyway. Now, since you can select unlimited units, do you see every single one of them at the bottom of the screen?
On June 24 2009 10:25 Kennigit wrote: Just assume that everything is NDA. Last Romantic wont even tell us what colour underwear he was wearing (i bet it they were aquamarine)
On June 24 2009 10:21 kyama wrote: well, i'm not sure this will break nda, but i'm going to ask anyway. Now, since you can select unlimited units, do you see every single one of them at the bottom of the screen?
I'm not sure if this was answered before.
I think this has been covered in the past Blizzcon and WWI reports, try searching for those (I personally don't remember how many you see - I think you see like 3 rows of units then you have to scroll down, but I could be wrong).
i still dont understand what happened.. Everyone that went knows what the NDA is? or blizzard at the event told all the people that went they have a NDA and we cant tell you are biggest secret!
On June 24 2009 14:46 iMate wrote: i still dont understand what happened.. Everyone that went knows what the NDA is? or blizzard at the event told all the people that went they have a NDA and we cant tell you are biggest secret!
Uh, I'm not sure you are entirely clear on what a non-disclosure agreement is. You can not write one up and assume its legally binding without the agreement of the second party. Think of them as the permission slips you had to get signed whenever you went on field trips in elementary school. Except where permission slips went (more or less), "we aren't responsible for any harm on your child if they do stupid shit", non-disclosures would go something along the lines of, "we'll sue the shit out of you if you talk".
Odds are, Blizzard just got all the attendees to sign the agreement forms they had whipped up before they were allowed to start playing the SC2 build they had available.
So, I've been following SC2 for a long time on this site and throughout development there have been some questionable changes to the game. I think that in the end things will basically work out, but 100% cancel is probably the worst change I've heard of yet. I'm not saying it will be game-breaking and pylon blocks/temporary walls/fake bunkers are fun, but shouldn't these have some cost? If anything, I always thought that there was too large of a difference in forcing an expo to cancel and destroying it once it was up. Of course you still delay it and resources are still tied up for a time with any uses of cancel, but this change seems so unnecessary.
If you all just spend the next few days just playing StarCraft, or whatever, you'll forget all about this thread until Monday and it'll be just like a surprise again!
I'm sure SoG and LR are writing up the perfect news post as is the SC2GG side. We're all trying our best to make it interesting and, of course, we'll be answering questions. Big and Small. Just go take your minds off of it for awhile and come back later.
Chinese site sc2p.com reported that Chris Sigaty that there will be 40,000 beta testers in each region (North America, Europe, Korea, China, etc.), the total number is nearly 200,000. This news item was just recently removed from the site.
Also, I believe that Monday, yesterday and today are the days people were invited to visit Blizzard. Representatives from sc2p.com are there today. Hence, I will jump to conclusions and say major beta news has been divulged at this conference.
Is it possible that Blizzard will withdraw their NDA after today once all the press has visited?
On June 25 2009 00:56 bsol wrote: Is it possible that Blizzard will withdraw their NDA after today once all the press has visited?
I don't know if today is the last day.
I can add that the biggest french-speaking fansite is going to Blizzard's HQ today or tomorrow too (he did not confirm, but said something like "I'm not there but I can't tell you where I go" :p).
Yeah but then why did Blizzard decide to use a NDA only after the "conference" started ? If they knew they would invite a lot of fansite/press during the week, it should have been clear that they would need a NDA and not wait...
What would be the point of that? It'd be easier just to get everyone to sign at the event, seeing as how everyone's already present. Plus, you don't need to bother yourself with figuring out whether or not everyone present signed it.
On June 25 2009 05:50 Nitro68 wrote: Yeah but then why did Blizzard decide to use a NDA only after the "conference" started ? If they knew they would invite a lot of fansite/press during the week, it should have been clear that they would need a NDA and not wait...
They didn't - apparently everyone signed a NDA as they were walking in and no one bothered to read it.... In their defence, they signed one last year too but it was basically just a formality as they immediately reported on it when they left with no issues.
On June 25 2009 00:56 bsol wrote: Is it possible that Blizzard will withdraw their NDA after today once all the press has visited?
I don't know if today is the last day.
I can add that the biggest french-speaking fansite is going to Blizzard's HQ today or tomorrow too (he did not confirm, but said something like "I'm not there but I can't tell you where I go" :p).
As I heard it Monday was for USA, Tuesday for Asia and Wednesday for Europe. This seems to be pretty much confirmed as we know the USA gamesites went on Monday, some koreans posted stuff yesterday and your french friend went today.
On June 25 2009 00:56 bsol wrote: Is it possible that Blizzard will withdraw their NDA after today once all the press has visited?
I don't know if today is the last day.
I can add that the biggest french-speaking fansite is going to Blizzard's HQ today or tomorrow too (he did not confirm, but said something like "I'm not there but I can't tell you where I go" :p).
As I heard it Monday was for USA, Tuesday for Asia and Wednesday for Europe. This seems to be pretty much confirmed as we know the USA gamesites went on Monday, some koreans posted stuff yesterday and your french friend went today.
So its about time to break the NDA.
Lol, that is almost the worst reasoning i've ever heard :p "these guys went, then these guys did, then these guys did, and these guys broke their NDA" --> "this means, since we are no longer there we are not subject to their NDA" Orrr... we could try not breaking the NDA, and just go en-mass to other sites and get THEM to break the NDA? Personally not in the mood to get a cease and desist letter all because we couldn't be bothered waiting...
No I'm saying its time for Blizzard to break the NDA. People say Blizzard made the NDA to give members of the media visiting late in the week a fair chance to report what they see. Since now all members of the media have visited, there is no reason to hold the NDA all the way to Monday.
so word is going around that blizzard has started to hand out beta keys.. i asked one of the players that got one and he said blizzcon08 people are gonna be put into the first wave of testing.. any word on this?
On June 25 2009 11:11 bsol wrote: No I'm saying its time for Blizzard to break the NDA. People say Blizzard made the NDA to give members of the media visiting late in the week a fair chance to report what they see. Since now all members of the media have visited, there is no reason to hold the NDA all the way to Monday.
That makes perfect sense to me. I hope you're right! :D
On June 25 2009 11:11 bsol wrote: No I'm saying its time for Blizzard to break the NDA. People say Blizzard made the NDA to give members of the media visiting late in the week a fair chance to report what they see. Since now all members of the media have visited, there is no reason to hold the NDA all the way to Monday.
how do u know this information? If im not mistaken, they did not state the reason for the NDA, so this would not mean a thing. However, LR did say they could talk till Monday.
On June 25 2009 12:09 wishbones wrote: i cant wait to start seeing a mass of starcraft 2 commercials on TV
These should be pretty cool I'm tired of the wow ones.
I wish we had video-game ads in Australia. Actually I remember seeing War3 ads, but that was (of course) ages ago. We do get console ads though. Maybe we will get StarCraft 2 ads, who knows :\
On June 25 2009 12:09 wishbones wrote: i cant wait to start seeing a mass of starcraft 2 commercials on TV
These should be pretty cool I'm tired of the wow ones.
I wish we had video-game ads in Australia. Actually I remember seeing War3 ads, but that was (of course) ages ago. We do get console ads though. Maybe we will get StarCraft 2 ads, who knows :\
Probably not, although that would be cool. The only ads I've seen for PC games on TV are the Sims, the rest are all Wii games, and the most repeated one has to be Pokemon.
I believe it is against the NDA to say when the NDA expires. So technically no one can confirm the time. But I'd be most happy with 12:01 PST Monday since its as early as possible on Monday, and its late enough in my timezone that I won't stay up but can read as soon as I awake.
On June 27 2009 05:22 bsol wrote: I believe it is against the NDA to say when the NDA expires. So technically no one can confirm the time. But I'd be most happy with 12:01 PST Monday since its as early as possible on Monday, and its late enough in my timezone that I won't stay up but can read as soon as I awake.
Ehh, I have not read the NDA since I wasn't there, I'm just repeating what was sent out to all the sites in an email. They've already said we can talk about it monday so I don't see what the problem with confirming that would be.
On June 27 2009 05:22 bsol wrote: I believe it is against the NDA to say when the NDA expires. So technically no one can confirm the time. But I'd be most happy with 12:01 PST Monday since its as early as possible on Monday, and its late enough in my timezone that I won't stay up but can read as soon as I awake.
.....what would make you think this? Have you signed one before lol?
On June 27 2009 05:22 bsol wrote: I believe it is against the NDA to say when the NDA expires. So technically no one can confirm the time. But I'd be most happy with 12:01 PST Monday since its as early as possible on Monday, and its late enough in my timezone that I won't stay up but can read as soon as I awake.
Even if this is true, there are plenty of similarly fiddly legal rules that are not consistently observed when it comes to difficult-to-enforce agreements like an NDA. If something more severe happened and Blizzard took someone to court over that, they might hit them up for also revealing the date of the NDA's expiration, but they're not likely to initiate action over it.
On June 27 2009 05:22 bsol wrote: I believe it is against the NDA to say when the NDA expires. So technically no one can confirm the time. But I'd be most happy with 12:01 PST Monday since its as early as possible on Monday, and its late enough in my timezone that I won't stay up but can read as soon as I awake.
.....what would make you think this? Have you signed one before lol?
There is only one NDA. Many have seen it, but few have signed it.
Legend tells of a time when men took arms and broke the NDA, spilling the secrets of the Gods. But whilst still celebrating their victory, a great cold overtook them. Their hearts turned to ice, and when a powerful gust sent their frozen bodies to the ground, their souls shattered into dust. And since that day, none have dared offend the NDA, for it is under the protection of the mighty Blizzard.
On June 27 2009 05:22 bsol wrote: I believe it is against the NDA to say when the NDA expires. So technically no one can confirm the time. But I'd be most happy with 12:01 PST Monday since its as early as possible on Monday, and its late enough in my timezone that I won't stay up but can read as soon as I awake.
.....what would make you think this? Have you signed one before lol?
There is only one NDA. Many have seen it, but few have signed it.
Legend tells of a time when men took arms and broke the NDA, spilling the secrets of the Gods. But whilst still celebrating their victory, a great cold overtook them. Their hearts turned to ice, and when a powerful gust sent their frozen bodies to the ground, their souls shattered into dust. And since that day, none have dared offend the NDA, for it is under the protection of the mighty Blizzard.
Not sure how much this means as this could be his way of deflecting any news about what took place, but this guy was there and under NDA and says the news is NOT about beta...
On June 27 2009 12:28 ggfobster wrote: Not sure how much this means as this could be his way of deflecting any news about what took place, but this guy was there and under NDA and says the news is NOT about beta...
I don't think that's what he's saying. Here are his exact quotes:
"No youll be constantly disappointed that there is no beta information." "I know nothing about beta. Dono why people keep assuming things lol. You all will be disappointed."
He says he knows nothing about beta... hopefully he means it's just that he doesn't know anything new today, but he makes it sound like nothing about beta is coming out on Monday.
On June 27 2009 05:22 bsol wrote: I believe it is against the NDA to say when the NDA expires. So technically no one can confirm the time. But I'd be most happy with 12:01 PST Monday since its as early as possible on Monday, and its late enough in my timezone that I won't stay up but can read as soon as I awake.
.....what would make you think this? Have you signed one before lol?
There is only one NDA. Many have seen it, but few have signed it.
Legend tells of a time when men took arms and broke the NDA, spilling the secrets of the Gods. But whilst still celebrating their victory, a great cold overtook them. Their hearts turned to ice, and when a powerful gust sent their frozen bodies to the ground, their souls shattered into dust. And since that day, none have dared offend the NDA, for it is under the protection of the mighty Blizzard.
Homer's epics are teenage fanfictions compared to your story.
On June 28 2009 08:20 Archerofaiur wrote: Wont that be sunday? Wait im confused. How many hours exactly till this information is availble? Im horrible at International time.
Hi guys, i just joined your forum and i found this topic, so could someone tell me - when NDA ends, there will be like some article here on TL or is it about something else?
On June 29 2009 01:59 CROrens wrote: Hi guys, i just joined your forum and i found this topic, so could someone tell me - when NDA ends, there will be like some article here on TL or is it about something else?
When the NDA is lifted in about 13 hours, people who attended Blizzard last week are able to disclose what they saw. So that means we will probably immediately see articles on TL and other sites since they probably already wrote on their experiences. That's all we can expect.
I really hope the NDA ends early Monday morning, so we can finally find out what is going on. Hopefully some well written articles and/or a podcast about it will be up for maximum awesome.
Summary of of what people have guessed will happen on Monday:
-Nothing will happen. for whatever reason allot of news websites got invited for a conference but, once at the conference it was announced that it got cancelled and Blizzard put a NDA on it.
-Blizzard only invited for conference so they could answer questions and then use the NDA so they have the time to gather all to one QA and post it on the Main page before the other websites.
-Blizzard actually announced a beta date but wanted the other websites to wait until Monday so all the other news websites would get the chance to prepare that came the day after.
-Blizzard not only announced a beta date that will be revealed on monday, but they also gave out SCII copies to all the news websites. At the same time they cannot really report anything from their games or Beta before Monday.
On June 29 2009 10:19 GHOSTCLAW wrote: I wonder what time blizzard considers monday - we've got tl time, and PST (where blizzard is based). A difference of like 12 hours or so.
why is there any doubt that they use Pacific time?
July 17th seemed so far away and crazyyyyy and now its soooo close!! I have finally learned to ignore these games blizzard plays with us. Hopefully some cool screenshots, and new info is released about battle.net and stuff like that. Can we just get another cake contest going here? thats more exciting and I got some wild new ideas!
On June 29 2009 10:19 GHOSTCLAW wrote: I wonder what time blizzard considers monday - we've got tl time, and PST (where blizzard is based). A difference of like 12 hours or so.
why is there any doubt that they use Pacific time?
well it wouldn't be too random to have it be GMT, and there's other reasons why they would pick different time zones. Although now i'm just waiting for midnight ('cause i'm in the right time zone ^^)
No LAN from their perspective is probably to reduce piracy and stop siblings from playing the same copy together at home, and buying one each. Too bad LAN is awesome. Will Battle.net2 latency be an issue now?
First Person View You know how sometimes if you’re watching an OSL game they will do a fancy animation and then you will be seeing the first person view (what they are seeing on their own screen) of one of the players? Where you can watch their screen flicker rapidly between sections on the map, watch them frantically macroing or deftly microing their units? Well you guessed it. An observer in a Starcraft 2 game will be able to watch any players’ FP View at any time.
On June 29 2009 16:08 Zzoram wrote: No LAN from their perspective is probably to reduce piracy and stop siblings from playing the same copy together at home, and buying one each. Too bad LAN is awesome. Will Battle.net2 latency be an issue now?
What if you want to LAN SCII without internet? or simply the internet is down on said LAN?
I was at the meeting, and they didn't say anything about LAN one way or the other that I heard. Either they have another source of info or it's just a rumor...
Although they did tell us that we were playing a pretty rough version, so maybe they were thinking about something else that just hadn't been included yet.
First Person View You know how sometimes if you’re watching an OSL game they will do a fancy animation and then you will be seeing the first person view (what they are seeing on their own screen) of one of the players? Where you can watch their screen flicker rapidly between sections on the map, watch them frantically macroing or deftly microing their units? Well you guessed it. An observer in a Starcraft 2 game will be able to watch any players’ FP View at any time.
That is going to be an awesome feature, no doubt about that.
On June 29 2009 16:10 f10esqftw wrote: I was at the meeting, and they didn't say anything about LAN one way or the other that I heard. Either they have another source of info or it's just a rumor...
Although they did tell us that we were playing a pretty rough version, so maybe they were thinking about something else that just hadn't been included yet.
Here's a fun tidbit, though...
We fucking played it on LAN at Blizzard HQ
Or maybe you were on Battle.net2 alpha and didn't know it.
NO lan? Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I hope it's a false rumor, god I play like almost every day with my friends on LAN at school, between breaks. FFS, I hope they aren't doing something stupid now. I can understand for d3, to make it harder to hack, but Starcraft?? *hulk rage*
On June 29 2009 16:08 Zzoram wrote: No LAN from their perspective is probably to reduce piracy and stop siblings from playing the same copy together at home, and buying one each. Too bad LAN is awesome. Will Battle.net2 latency be an issue now?
In SC you even had an installation that allowed you to play with specific other copy with the same ID. It did not stop SC from being one of the most successful games. Anyway if there would be no LAN = no progaming (at least vastly limited) = less copies sold.
I can't believe Blizzard embargoed slightly more detailed information about features we already knew about. Instead of getting a Beta date, we find out they removed LAN. This was so not even close to being worth the anticipation. This whole event just makes me a bit less excited, and very disappointed.
Here are the pieces I pulled out of thier summery:
... according to senior vice president of game design, Pardo,.... has also revealed that the development team "don't have any plans to support LAN" (Local Area Networking), and clarified saying "we will not support it." This is an interesting statement, since the easy LAN functionality of the original game is one of the reasons it became so big in the first place. Current communities like iCCup, using StarCraft mods to host games are considered "pirate servers" by Blizzard, and Pardo wants to see those services shut down.
Sad sad day, and here I was hoping for a date for the beta
On June 29 2009 16:18 Zzoram wrote: I can't believe Blizzard embargoed slightly more detailed information about features we already knew about. Instead of getting a Beta date, we find out they removed LAN. This was so not even close to being worth the anticipation. This whole event just makes me a bit less excited, and very disappointed.
Keep in mind that these are also the tidbits that *those* sites chose to pull out and report on. I say we wait and see what TL has to say and report before we go getting upset about it.
Well, they did hold private interviews with different sites. I guess they were the ones who asked that question, although it still sounds strange.. maybe they meant LAN latency?
On June 29 2009 16:18 Zzoram wrote: I can't believe Blizzard embargoed slightly more detailed information about features we already knew about. Instead of getting a Beta date, we find out they removed LAN. This was so not even close to being worth the anticipation. This whole event just makes me a bit less excited, and very disappointed.
Keep in mind that these are also the tidbits that *those* sites chose to pull out and report on. I say we wait and see what TL has to say and report before we go getting upset about it.
I doubt even pathetic sites would choose to only report on old news.
this is rather disappointing...All the huss and "NDA" and the big secrecy just to find out a few details about replay rewind and observer analisis ...LOL I cant describe how much im disappointed!!! Fuck this is taking tooooo long already
Deep inside I was hoping that they are holding back the info about beta and they will anounce it later today,guess I was wrong and we have to wait like 6 months to actually see the game itslef.
"Well, it is important to note that while I personally witnessed these functions in the very newest build of Starcraft 2 at the Blizzard press conference last week, this is not the final product, nor even the beta, so things are subject to change. I highly doubt that any of these features will be taken out, but we’ll have to see"
they still havent sent out the beta keys to the people who qualified top 20 on the regional invitational ladders for wc3. I know me and a few other pros have not recieved it i did however receive an email awhile back from the blizzard e-sports team that the keys will be provided as beta approaches. id like to think we would get them atleast a weeks notice. but we will see
On June 29 2009 16:31 starPride wrote: the new video actually looks really incredible but that seems to be the only thing worth noting =/
Well they were planning on releasing more info about Battle.net but they didn't think it was ready yet. So all they really showed us that was brand new was all of the observation and analysis features.
On June 29 2009 16:39 hyde wrote: That video was pretty cool, although when I saw the new sunken animation I thought it looked like an ostrich pecking things ahaha
yea i wonder if they changed the name considering its not 'sunken' anymore.
On June 29 2009 16:39 hyde wrote: That video was pretty cool, although when I saw the new sunken animation I thought it looked like an ostrich pecking things ahaha
yea i wonder if they changed the name considering its not 'sunken' anymore.
On June 29 2009 16:39 hyde wrote: That video was pretty cool, although when I saw the new sunken animation I thought it looked like an ostrich pecking things ahaha
yea i wonder if they changed the name considering its not 'sunken' anymore.
It's called Spine Crawler
I'm guessing he was refering to me calling it a sunken and not by it's newer name.
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