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Survivor - April 21st

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Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
April 20 2007 13:17 GMT
#1
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Alas, the end is near, and the dawn of a new beginning, a grand beginning, is nearly here.
Many exciting news have been released in the BW community the past weeks. Proleague's expansion, TLTour3, an old hero's return, and now, the final stage of the Survivor League.

With yesterday's ODT, the final 16 has been decided. At the end of today, so will the final 32 for MSL. Who's up on deck to pass or fail? "He" is back.

Group H: April 21st – 18:30

Game 1 - MinGu (Z) vs FreeDom.Werra (T) @ Longinus 2
Game 2 - Inter.Calm (Z) vs BoxeR (T) @ Longinus 2
Winners - Blitz X
Losers - Blitz X
Final - Reverse Temple


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MinGu (Z) vs FreeDom.Werra (T)
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@ Longinus 2


An interesting match indeed. MinGu, though he moved from KTF to CJ to perhaps learn the art of zerg from the maestro himself, has failed to show anything beyond mediocre. This is truely his chance to show what he's learned, and prove that his move was not a mistake. Meanwhile we have Freedom.Werra... the WC3 player who saw the error of his ways and changed his profession to Starcraft, the game for men. Surprisingly, he's shown very promising TvZ skills during his preliminary rounds. His other matchups have yet to be tested, but one thing's for sure: he's got a fine TvZ. It's honestly difficult for me to predict the winner. Because statistics of the map and mu has me leaning towards Werra... but for some reason, I feel a pull towards MinGu.

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Inter.Calm (Z) vs BoxeR (T)
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@ Longinus 2


Is there much to say? While Inter.Calm has definately shown more balls than other SouL zergs, he's still got nothing on the emperor. The map says emperor, the matchup says emperor, the fans say emperor.... and with the creation of the ACE team, there's a good chance HE is fairly near his level again.

Winners @ Neo Arkanoid

We'll either see a Boxer TvZ or a TvT. Either way, it looks good for the emperor. Though the emperor hasn't exactly shown stellar performances on this map, it's pretty easy to say that he'll be the favorite. So my guess is that HE will advance with 2 wins.

Losers @ Neo Arkanoid

Again, we're stuck here with a TvZ, or a ZvZ. Should a ZvZ come out, it could go either way. TvZ? Again, could go either way. In all honesty there isn't too much data on these players to really tell who'll have the upper advantage. All I can say is this: who cares? As long as BoxeR's not stuck here, who really cares?

Final @ Hitchhiker

Ok since I've failed to make any real predictions I'm really not sure what mu to expect here. But a ZvT is most likely, logically speaking. ZvT on this map requires lots of multi-tasking technique, like JD, Savior, and YarnC can do. Hmm... I really don't know what to say anymore. As long as we don't see 2 more terrans advance to this MSL, I'm fine.
SAY YES TO STIM KIDS!!! XD
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20667 Posts
April 20 2007 13:40 GMT
#2
He shall win.

There is no question of His skill. I want Him to advance along with...FreeDom, I suppose. Even if they're both terran.
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ATeddyBear
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Canada2843 Posts
April 20 2007 14:48 GMT
#3
On April 20 2007 22:17 Live2Win wrote:
Meanwhile we have Freedom.Werra... the WC3 player who saw the error of his ways and changed his profession to Starcraft, the game for men.


haha,
Professional twice over - an analyst and a therapist. The world’s first analrapist.
backdrOp
Profile Joined November 2005
United States104 Posts
April 20 2007 16:28 GMT
#4
i really want to see boxer play again
semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
April 20 2007 16:45 GMT
#5
This is actually one of the few groups which I have an exception to not wanting two terrans to advance. I'd like to see both of these Terrans in the next MSL.

Emperor and Freedom Fighting!
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maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5907 Posts
April 20 2007 18:10 GMT
#6
Yea, gogo Boxer and Freedom!:D Oh, and just a minor mistake over there in your article, Live2Win - Werra is a clan name.
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
April 20 2007 18:48 GMT
#7
Freedom wasn't good enough in WC3 to compete
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maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5907 Posts
April 20 2007 19:40 GMT
#8
WTF? He won Ongamenet Invitational over Moon and Reign and WCG 2004 over Zacard and Moon, he also placed 3rd in MBC Sonokong Prime League III in 2003 being only beaten by Moon and Swain, and 3rd in MBC Land Cinema Prime League V.
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5907 Posts
April 20 2007 20:57 GMT
#9
Oh and the maps were Longinus 2, Blitz X and Reverse Temple.
TrainingMacro
Profile Joined July 2005
Netherlands91 Posts
April 20 2007 21:13 GMT
#10
2 more terrans advanced to the msl
GANGBANGLINGS!!!! Starcraft II is gonna be imbalanced: terrans get Chuck Norris.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
April 21 2007 04:19 GMT
#11
I loved these games
zoN-
Profile Joined April 2007
Sweden46 Posts
April 21 2007 06:47 GMT
#12
Boxer fucking amazing micro in that TvZ tbh :O.
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
April 21 2007 13:24 GMT
#13
HE has done it!
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dementus
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Singapore1153 Posts
April 21 2007 22:42 GMT
#14
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the two def-matrixed marines were cute
"I couldn't stop myself from having unreal macro and sick timing senses."
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
April 23 2007 00:02 GMT
#15
nice to see boxer tearing z anus still
eXcss
Profile Joined April 2007
Sweden39 Posts
April 23 2007 09:10 GMT
#16
anyone saw the cancelled game 5??? what happend?? anyone wanna tell me?
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M[o]H-Pepsi
Profile Joined April 2007
United States15 Posts
April 23 2007 09:14 GMT
#17
WHERE ARE THE REPLAYS?!?!?!

THINK ABOUT THE REPLAYS!!
T1!! Team First!
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